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Inside The Mind of An Internet Shopper: You Can't Land A Prize Fish In a Murky Lake

By
Mortgage and Lending with Platinum Home Mortgage Company NMLS #238304

ITS 2 AM AND THE PAJAMA WARRIORS ARE THINKING ABOUT REAL ESTATE

 There is something sadly ironic about all those "pajama warriors" who apply online for a mortgage at 2AM. I often wonder why they are choosing a mortgage company in the most impersonal way EVER, yet are desperately seeking one of the most personal relationships in the business world.

Crazy, isn't it? But then, its a brave new world out there.

Isn't that what we are supposed to be doing with our blogs? Allowing people to connect with us personally? Aren't we trying to teach the Internet audience that there IS a better way to choose a real estate professional than a great big impersonal site that (in disguise) is actually going to sell your information to the highest bidder (not the best agent)?

Well, fellow bloggers, we aren't there yet.

I have been asked by the management of our mortgage company to handle some Internet leads that were generated by one of the best known online lenders in the country. Frankly, because they have severely cut back their staff, they can no longer handle all of the leads that are flooding in. You read me right. FLOODING IN.

Although I must make time above and beyond the mortgage madness that already exists at my desk, I confess, my insatiable curiosity got the best of me.  You know how we bloggers are always looking for fodder.

I couldn't help but wonder: What in the world goes on inside the head of someone who starts the real estate buying process while in their pajamas? Seriously, I want to know.

I COULD WRITE A BOOK ABOUT WHAT INTERNET SHOPPERS DON'T KNOW

Do they know that they are one of thousands of leads and that getting someone good is a pure crap shoot?

Do they know their information is being farmed out and sold to a mortgage broker exactly like that one the Realtor COULD HAVE referred them to in the first place?

Do they know that they are at risk being deleted/ignored just because they didn't fill out the application correctly (example: filling out your weekly pay instead of your monthly pay). That a do-it-yourself mortgage application could cost you the ability to become qualified?

Do they know that most Internet "pre-qualifications" are considered pure garbage by Realtors?

And finally this: Do they understand that SO MANY OTHER applicants are simply...(name one:  (1)bored (2)playing around on the Internet,  (3) engaging in wishful thinking) that they stand the risk of being LAST PRIORITY when it comes to the person looking at that lead? Think human nature here.

GO LEARN TO FISH, PLEASE

I have come to realize that Internet applicants are some of the most insecure and intimidated real estate shoppers out there. Warming them up, persuading them to call back, making that ever critical connection?  Tough road. Even for me with a gift of gab, a genuine concern, and years of mortgage experience.

 Much of that insecurity could be wiped away if we could teach them a different way to fish. Instead of throwing their line into that huge murky lake, they can go into the store, look straight into a clear aquarium and say, "I'll take that one". 

So why don't they? Do they really expect to land a prize fish out of the murky old lake? With bait that has been haphazardly plunked onto the hook in the middle of the night during an insomniac attack?

This is how I see our challenge: How do we guide the masses away from these huge impersonal sites and into the world of Web 2.0? It is better for them. It is better for us.

I will share with you what I learn on this journey.  Stay tuned.

Update: Click here for the second installment of this series.

 

Confidential to DM : Thank you for sharing your experiences with your own online leads, which helped me write this. You are a gentleman and definitely a Prize Fish.

 

Written by Janet Guilbault, California Mortgage Expert Based Out of the San Francisco Bay Area

Comments (41)

Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender

Kelly: I hope your lump turned out to be nothing serious, but I appreciate your analysis.

So far, the leads I am getting are actually more serious than I had thought they would be.

Many just went out there and applied to multiple sites....very dumb move. But most do want to buy real estate, and are overwhelmingly tempted by the low prices they see.

But they have no cash! They want 100% financing! They have no clue why it just does not exist any more!

Excuse me? That is part of the reason the prices are so low.

Mar 01, 2008 07:26 AM
Sarah Eubanks
Hill Valley Financial Services - Oregon City, OR
Preferred Oregon Loan Consultant & Notary Public
Janet  ~ You are right!  My thought on Internet shopping is primarily this...the people doing this do not realize that they are not going to get the "instant" quotes they are teased with.  Their belief system is truly that they are going to find out what they need to without ever speaking to anyone or having anyone "sell" them something.  Sad, but true.  Great post!  :0
Mar 01, 2008 08:53 AM
Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News

This applies to why do agents buy leads?  What is the actually conversion rate of those leads and the TRUE cost?

Mar 01, 2008 10:42 AM
Eric Bouler
Gardner Realtors, Licensed in La. - New Orleans, LA
Listening to your Needs
However I love my internet leads. I think they are different when they see its a person. I convert many into sales. I deal with some international clients and have closed one from France, England and working on one from Japan. I could care less what time they write. However know exactly what you are saying! You will have to check out my new blog about New Orleans.  New Orleans Condo Trends, it easy to blog about eating here?
Mar 01, 2008 11:17 AM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender

Hi Eric! I will definately check out your new blog.

So you love your internet leads? What is your ratio of conversion? I am attempting to make it higher than the 9 to 1 that currently exists (topic of another post)

Honestly, what I love the most is being inside the head of so many people in such a short span of time. It really helps you understand what they are thinking and what insecurities they have about buying real estate.

It also lets me practice my "selling scripts" over and over, which helps.

Mar 01, 2008 12:33 PM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender
Sarah: I agree with what you have said. They secretly hope that they never have to talk to anyone. What is the world coming to? They want a computer to handle their mortgage?
Mar 01, 2008 12:37 PM
Eric Bouler
Gardner Realtors, Licensed in La. - New Orleans, LA
Listening to your Needs
Janet 9-1 is a teriffic ratio for real estate sales. You learn to weed them out rather quickly. Some you never talk to, some never write you back, 50% are weeded out is a few seconds. If they give you too much or too little you are in trouble. I need 50 sales to be a very good agent in this market. I am sure you need many more loans than that so the numbers get skewed.
Mar 01, 2008 12:54 PM
Christy Powers
Keller Williams Coastal Area Partners - Pooler, GA
Pooler, Savannah Real Estate Agent

LOL.....Pajama warriors. That is funny. I blog in my pj's usually. If I could, I would do everything in them. They are comfy!

I know that they are definitely just fishing and who they get depends on their luck!  

Mar 01, 2008 02:07 PM
Lane Bailey
Century 21 Results Realty - Suwanee, GA
Realtor & Car Guy

From the consumer perspective, it is convenience.  They can look, check and get their feet wet.  It isn't as threatening as getting face to face, or even face to phone. 

I know that the leads blow.  Too many people want to just retain their anonymity...  

Mar 01, 2008 02:12 PM
Carolyn Gjerde-Tu-Davis
Lyon Real Estate - Davis, CA
Ca Real Estate

Interesting post.  I think there are "degrees" for leads, some just fill out a form to get information and others looking for help.  Some take a long time to incubate.  Some are worthwhile and others are definitely a waste of time. 

Mar 01, 2008 02:12 PM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes
Will be interested in coming back and reading more about this after you have worked longer with the Internet leads -- sure it will be interesting.
Mar 01, 2008 02:20 PM
Paul Francis
Francis Group Real Estate - Las Vegas, NV
Las Vegas Real Estate Agent - Summerlin Homes

Right on.. I think more internet shoppers out there need to know what's really happening when they are visiting the lead generation for sale sites.

Mar 01, 2008 06:38 PM
Bob Cumiskey
A1 Connection Realty, Inc. - Sun City Center, FL
US Army Retired, Your Sun City Center, Florida ~ Realtor

I think the internet shopper is the new future.  But, it's still a long way off.  Remember how appalled everyone was when tv shopping came about.  It's a huge industry now.  A lot of the "old school" agents in my office tend to ignore the importance of the internet, and think it's just a phase.  Some phase huh?

Thanks for a interesting blog.  Looking forward to reading more from you.  Great info.

Mar 02, 2008 02:56 AM
Lee Walsh
SecurityNational Mortgage - Lake Mary, FL
Executive Talent Scout for Mortgage Professionals

Janet,

No, No, No, No & No!

They do not know. I think they believe they are more in control of the situation by requesting quotes on line when in fact they have given up all control.  

There are at least 20 questions that a loan officer must know to give a "real quote".

 

Mar 02, 2008 03:28 AM
JL Boney, III
Coldwell Banker - Columbia, SC
Columbia, SC Real Estate
Great post, thanks for the food for thought.
Mar 02, 2008 04:11 AM
Diane Bell, Hilton Head Real Estate, Bluffton
Charter 1 Real Estate, Hilton Head, Bluffton, SC - Hilton Head Island, SC

Janet,

Enjoyed your post.  The same thing happens with the online "insurance" sites.  They just farm your information out to the unknown agents of the world.

Mar 02, 2008 05:53 AM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender

Bob: You are right. I believe there are quite a few kinks that need to be ironed out before we are completely successful in pleasing the Internet shopper. At lease when it comes to real estate.

Lee: And the last thing they want to do when I call is play 20 questions. There needs to be some romance before they are willing to answer those questions.

Diane: That is the biggest misconception when they offer up their information. I think if they understood this, we might have a better chance of closing more of these leads. They are actually a little upset when they finally realize this,

Mar 02, 2008 06:02 AM
Sarah Eubanks
Hill Valley Financial Services - Oregon City, OR
Preferred Oregon Loan Consultant & Notary Public
Janet ~  So sad, but unfortunately, I think it is all too true.  They just have not been fortunate enough to meet the likes of you, me, and countless others who will treat them well.  If only they knew that my clients almost always get at least one Starbucks date out of me....maybe then!
Mar 03, 2008 02:28 AM
Sarah Eubanks
Hill Valley Financial Services - Oregon City, OR
Preferred Oregon Loan Consultant & Notary Public

Hi Janet ~ I have included this post of yours in the Mortgage PRO Week in Review.  Thanks...

Mar 03, 2008 09:32 AM
Rick Callaham
Team Quintana Real Estate - Spokane, WA
Spokane Realtor
Nice intro to why home shoppers should read blogs.
Mar 04, 2008 04:21 AM