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Do's and Don'ts When Buying or Selling Historic Stone Homes

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Real Estate Agent with Realty One Group Capital / LIC in VA

When I say " Historic", that usually means homes built 1920 or before. But some of this applies to any stone home. Recently a lady asked about stopping water that runs into her stone cellar when it rains hard. She wanted to stop the leaks. The general contractor who claimed to have knowledge of historic restoration actually doesn't have that knowledge, or just doesn't care.

 We have many homes like this in Loudoun county VA. Stone cellars with dirt floors. A bricklayer I know met with the contractor, then called me later to explain what the lady wanted done. He had advised her to parge the stone with portland cement, then the contractor was going to pour a concrete floor.

 I explained to him why parging with portland cement was the worse thing you could do. In short, that will create water to build up behing the wall, which causes pressure against the wall, which can eventually cause the wall to bulge out into the cellar. It can also cause mold, mildew, must, smell, and rot. Where do they think the water is going to go?

 Bricklayer runs that by contractor, and he says not to worry about it, just give him an estimate on parging. What, don't worry about possibly seriously damaging someones house with improper repairs?

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Anyway, some basic do's and don'ts of stone masonry are: (1) If you need stone work or repair, Do hire an experienced stone mason. (2) Do consider installing a chimney top damper (3) Don't use portland cement to parge or point up stone (4) Don't do what you see a homeowner did in bottom right photo. He had a laborer basically smear type S mortar overtop of what appeared to be good lime mortar joints. The white lime mortar with larger sand is good, the gray mortar that is smeared over the lime mortar and stone is bad. (5) Don't have anyone parge the interior of your stone cellar or basement. Ask yourself where the water is going to go? This causes all kinds of problems over time. (6) Don't hire a bricklayer that doesn't have experience in stone restoration and preservation, and lime mortars. Lime mortars and stone work together to allow walls to breathe, and water to penetrate, escape, and evaporate. It also allows some walls to move which is normal in many historic buildings.

 

Jeff Pearl / Lic in VA

Remax Distinctive - Reston VA

703-727-4876

Homes / Land / Farms / Historic

www.jeffpearlhomes.com

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1~Judi Barrett
Idabel, OK

Jeff,

It's obvious that you have experience with historic stone homes and walls.  Hopefully you were able to give that home owner some advice.  

Like you, I cannot imagine a contractor doing a repair that was going to do damage to this house.  He seems to be only interested in a quick fix and getting paid. 

I love the list at the bottom of the post.  Sounds like good advice.  Thank you for writing this.

Sep 14, 2013 11:03 PM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Jeff, good tips for homeowners who live in homes with stone masonry. You really need to check out the expertise of the companies when getting estimates.

Sep 15, 2013 12:01 AM
Matt Kombrink
One Source Realty - Geneva, IL
Your #1 Source For Real Estate

Some good tips here, Jeff.  We have some homes like this in my Chicagoland market area though definitely not as historic as in your neck of the woods.  Great article.

Sep 15, 2013 12:22 AM
Frank Castaldini
Compass - San Francisco, CA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in San Francisco
I'd be curious and interested in a followup to this post to learn what the lady ends up doing to solve her issue. Thanks
Sep 15, 2013 12:31 AM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Real Estate Broker

Since I personally know nothing about these kinds of homes, this was a very interesting post for me to read and something new to learn. Thanks.

Sep 15, 2013 01:02 AM
Lori Cain
Own Tulsa - Tulsa, OK
Midtown Tulsa Real Estate Top Producer

Wow, Jeff - very interesting! My personal home was built in 1915 and most of what I sell in Tulsa OK was built in the 1920s-1930s. I have never even run across a home with a dirt floor cellar or basement! I too am looking forward to a follow-up to this post.

BTW, there is an Active Rain group for historic homes - this post would be helpful there!

Sep 15, 2013 01:18 AM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Thanks Jeff, I have learned something new today about masonry and historic buildings.

Sep 15, 2013 08:39 AM

#1- Hi Judi, I was a full time brick and stone mason for 35+ years before starting in real estate. I still do some historic preservation and restoration work. So far the lady hasn't done anything. She is better off not doing anything, than doing what that contractor was suggesting. It causes what we call " Rising Damp" in stone. The water will just build up, saturate the stone, and keep rising. I've seen it go all the way up and cause the wooden plates and floor joist to rot.

#2- Hi Michael, I agree. People need to know who they are hiring, and get at least 2 estimates. Thanks.

#3- Hi Matt, Thanks. This can happen with most stone walls.

#4- Hi Frank, So far she hasn't done anything, which is good. I'll keep you posted.

#5- Hi Nina, Stone homes have their own character, and require proper care, & they'll last 100+ years.

#6- Hi Lori, Many times I had to undo the damage done by a previous mason who knew nothing about stone or different types of mortar. I think many homeowners just didn't know either.

#7- Hi Bob, Thanks. Glad you liked my post!

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Tracy Oliva
West USA Realty - Arizona - Fountain Hills, AZ
The Oliva Team Arizona Agents

Good Morning:  This is some great Info for all in the business,  keep up the good work and good luck with your sales,  E

Sep 15, 2013 10:47 PM