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PRICE IT OVER MARKET??? A PROVEN TECHNIQUE FOR DRIVING LISTING AGENTS INTO THE POOR HOUSE!!!

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Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

PRICE 10% TO 20% over market???

HA!  The house will simply take 10% to 20% longer to sell as the home owner chases the market DOWN.

Listing agents are familiar with the questions:

"Are you going to put my home in the magazines?"
"Are you going to do an open house this week?"
"When are you going to show my home?"
"When are buyers going to see my home?"
"Are you going to show my home to agents in your office?"
"Aren't you going to put flyers in the yard?"
"Are you advertising my home in the newspaper?"
and more.  Much more.

Do folks looking for homes to buy do anything but LOOK at overpriced homes???  Do those sellers or their agents do not know that BUYER'S AGENTS ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO COMPS????  More importantly, we also have access to Days on the Market, Price reductions, previous listing changes, and much more. 

Then, there are those folks known as APPRAISERS.  They're a dispassionate bunch who deal with reality. 

Of course, this condition spawned an entirely new industry, SHORT SALES.

You gotta love it.  This strategy was very popular when prices were rising rapidly in the 2004-2006 years.  WHAT HAPPENED???  Buyers in those years are still not able to sell and break even.  They've been a prisoner to their mortgages for almost 10 years.

I believe that owners (well, some owners) have become a bit more realistic these days.

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WHO ENCOURAGES OVERPRICED LISTINGS????  BROKER/OWNERS.  The work and investment made by the listing agent isn't always their interest.  BROKER/OWNERS want MARKET SHARE and the more YARD SIGNS with their name, the more successful they appear.

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AS ALWAYS, I COULD BE WRONG.

Of course ALL listings with ActiveRain members always sell for higher than market all the time.  Don't they??

 

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Comments(58)

Susan Ackerman
RE/MAX Realty Agency - Chambersburg, PA
Associate Broker

I have turned down listings that the sellers demand be priced way above market value, in the end it saves me time and aggravation

Nov 02, 2013 09:52 PM
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

I have a rash of this behavior in my market and i cant think anything but agents are being encouraged to give values higher than market value just to get listings. I wrote about it yesterday. Many sellers are happy to hear teh truth that is backed up by real comps while other sellers are just listing with who ever gives the the highest value. They soon learn and I hear from most 6 months later when their homes have not sold. 

Nov 02, 2013 09:56 PM
Fernando Herboso - Associate Broker MD, & VA
Maxus Realty Group of Samson Properties - Clarksburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA

The biggest role of a listing agnet is to earn the respect from the sellers. .

as a captain of a ship. .

the sellers choose the destination. .

and allow the captain to take them there . .

Nov 02, 2013 10:11 PM
Bill and MaryAnn Wagner
Wagner Real Estate Group - Ocean City, NJ
Jersey Shore and South Jersey Real Estate
Lenn, You're analysis is correct. We're still in a very strong buyer's market and if a seller doesn't want to price their home within the realm of reality it is just a liability. Too many agents take listings just for the sake of having a listing. Ultimately, it reflects poorly on them when it doesn't sell.
Nov 02, 2013 11:16 PM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Lenn, I believe it is the fault of the listing agents who take overpriced listings thinking the sellers will lower the price at a later date. As long as agents accept these overpriced listing, we will have this problem.

Nov 02, 2013 11:17 PM
Silvia Dukes PA, Broker Associate, CRS, CIPS, SRES
Tropic Shores Realty - Ich spreche Deutsch! - Spring Hill, FL
Florida Waterfront and Country Club Living

Lenn, I'm very frank and upfront with sellers when it comes to pricing.   They will know that they may not get any showings, they will know that they will be faced with reductions, they will know that buyers ask and get comps, they will know that the property will  have to appraise.  Usually, those are things they haven't considered.

Nov 02, 2013 11:35 PM
Goran Utvic
Goran Utvic Real Estate Broker/Construction Consultant - Chicago, IL
Chicago 2 Flat Specialist

Hi Lenn...I get that all the time, a seller will say - I can always come down in price when we start negotiating, but the problem is they could have been negotiating with multiple buyers if they had priced it right in the first place and by pricing high they give the advantage to the one buyer who knows the ball is in his/her court.

Nov 02, 2013 11:53 PM
Andrew Payne Realtor® Richmond VA Homes For Sale~804-938-5257~
Piedmont Real Estate - Richmond, VA
Richmond, VA, Real Estate, SRES®, NAR Green

When those highly overpriced properties are listed, then often the listing agents face an expiration with no offers being made.  It's always best to go by the current market value of properties in the area.  Unfortunately, sellers won't necessarily get credit for the extra work done to their home.  It just depends on the availability of homes for a particular location.  If a certain neighborhood is in very high demand with buyers, then maybe the seller can get away with being slightly overpriced.  Being greatly overpriced, however, most likely is another story.

Nov 02, 2013 11:56 PM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

 

Many ways to skin the Real Estate cat....However, the cat is not going to stand still while doing this either..

Nov 03, 2013 12:19 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Richie.  HA!  That is priceless.

Andrew.  That's where agent knowledge is important and how much they are willing to invest.

Garen.  Pricing it right IN THE FIRST PLACE could more likely have sold the house.

Silvia.  You are right.  Those things are not always considered.

Michael.  You are, of course, spot on.

Bill.  I agree completely.  Think of the cost of money and time wasted too, just to get that yard sign up.

Fernando.  It's all a balance, but buyers aren't going to pay much over market.

Scott.  I listing agent is worth their weight in gold if they can explain market value well to a seller.

Susan.  You are very wise.

Wayne.  That is a good practice.

Gita.  HA!  Sellers take information from many worthless sources.

Ann.  There is always an agent who will list for more.  Do they sell????

Nov 03, 2013 12:52 AM
Linda Metallo DiBenardo
RE/MAX Impact, Lockport, Illinois - Lockport, IL

True, a sign in a yard will bring you calls/potential leads.  I cringe when I see a yard sign sticking sideways from the ground, faded, windblown and long forgotten.  For me an overpriced listing is an energy drainer, I avoid them.

 

Nov 03, 2013 12:53 AM
Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

The agent, broker, REALTOR that takes an over priced listing sets the wrong expectations and when expiration time comes around, next. Stalled vehicles in the middle of a multi lane highway left abandoned, parked and sideways causing obstacles to maneuver around....that is what over priced MLS listings are like. Dead wood. Developing mold and wasting resources when the seller demands weekly ad insertions, all out razzle dazzle...even super bowl ads when nope. All that won't help and wastes your time when you could be selling many fairly, realisticaly priced property listings. To get to closings over and over. To slide the check your way while you push the keys the other. With a happy happy happy smile.

Nov 03, 2013 12:58 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Linda.  That's the smart thing to do.

Andrew.  Dead wood.  That's a good description.

Nov 03, 2013 01:02 AM
Pat Champion
John Roberts Realty - Eustis, FL
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For reasons you stated in your post home owners have to be realistic or their homes won't sell. Thanks for sharing and have a great day.

Nov 03, 2013 01:28 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Pat. My pleasure and Thanks for stopping by.

Nov 03, 2013 02:03 AM
Jared Garfield
Rich Life Real Estate Team - Buford, GA
Invest With The Best For The Highest Returns!

Lenn, 

I agree with the tone and substance of your post 100%, I do think though in some sellers markets where inventory is at 2 months or less, that it is smart to price listings 2.5% or so above existing comps, usually appraisers will meet you there, and my experience in a market that is exactly like that right now is that you still get a bidding war.  I recently put a house that had comps of $158,000 on the market at $163,900 and got 10 offers in three days.  It is selling for a good bit above that, and now we just have to have the appraisal come in where it needs to be.  In most markets though all of your advice is sure spot on, and even in sellers market 10-20% is ridiculous and everything you say is sure accurate!

Nov 03, 2013 03:11 AM
Jimmy Faulkner
Florida. Homes Realty & Mortgage - Wantagh, NY
The Best Of St. Augustine
Hi Lenn: I love the upside down home that loses money for realtors when they are overpriced. All the time and money wasted on thee overpriced homes you can write a book on it. the sellers who demand all the things you outlined especially if they are overpriced and they know it. It is called using people.
Nov 03, 2013 04:05 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Jared.  I have no problem with properties priced slightly, as you say 2.5% above comps.  That's fine and it will usually appraise.   There is always a "window" for market value.  It's just not 10-20%.

Jimmy.  Agreed.  I have absolutely no problem telling a seller the facts and no problem with buyers who want to make rediculous offers either.

 

Nov 03, 2013 05:29 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

I had such a conversation yesterday with a seller who paid $550K for a home in Elk Grove in 2007. I told her she will be disappointed to discover she can't get what she paid for it. She actually said, so you don't want to help me? It's not that I don't want to help you, lady, it's that you're not gonna get what you want.

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Nov 03, 2013 07:27 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Elizabeth.  We see that every single day.  My own home which closed 2/2006 has a value of about 60% of what I paid for it. 

I can understand the matter.  You understand the matter.  Home owners do not. 

Nov 03, 2013 06:17 PM