Commissions, What Works, What does not, How do you do it?

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Real Estate Agent with Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, EXP #1 in Forest Land Mgmt

Commissions, What Works, What does not, How do you do it?Scales of justice or payment

Barbara Todaro, a very wise broker from MA posted a blog post this week that brought back a few thoughts and questions that I am hoping that some of my active rain friends can answer.

In her post she spoke about a broker that she used to work for whom she felt drove her and his other agents away due to excessive greed over commission splits.

She mentioned that she liked the ReMax model better so she moved on.

Many others in the comments agreed with her, and some moved on for better splits, and others stayed because they liked other factors in their brokerages.

commission pieThis is a subject that interests me in that I am a business owner who is always trying to motivate and inspire my staff, sometimes even with money.

Yet I do understand that the boss is always the last to be paid and if I don’t take a large enough piece of the pie, the whole company will suffer and eventually we will be that business that went out of business due to a rusty old sign and other signs of a failing business that cannot afford to compete.

And if I take to large of a piece, my staff will move on to a high paying government job.

So today I would like to learn how other businesses split the pie, how does your company or those who you have worked for pay their agents?

  • Total splits, how much for each side?
  • Sliding splits, how much and when or why?
  • Straight fees or combos of fees and splits?
  • Others?

What motivates and what does not?

 

Please leave your advice below, or if you are not comfortable doing this drop me a private note.

 

Thank you for your help!

 

 

 

image credits

Harald Amelung

 

Comments (11)

Debb Janes EcoBroker and Bernie Stea JD
ViewHomes of Clark County - Nature As Neighbors - Camas, WA
REALTORS® in Clark County, WA

Great questions. I work for a Broker now, in more of a partnership relationship. But, it took about five years to get here. We split commissions on new construction projects, as we both help develop the product and market the product. I pay 10% to him on my private sales, up to 10K. If he gives me a referral, I pay him 30%. It's working well - and I have no complaints. It would be tough to go elswhere - although, I do have to do a LOT of my own online marketing. ( However, he does pay for our website and IDX. )

Dec 04, 2013 02:31 AM
John Meussner
Mason-McDuffie Mortgage, Conventional Loans, Jumbo Loans, FHA, 203(k), USDA, VA, - Walnut Creek, CA
#MortgageMadeEasy Walnut Creek, CA 484-680-4852

Bob, I'm in the mortgage world but we're still commission based for the most part.

I've turned down higher splits & even pretty decent salaries because my company offers me the most bang for my buck - I think that's the same in all commissioned businesses - if a company offers a ton of resources, then a commission may not need to be as large.  If they offer very little assistance, they'd better have competitive splits. 

Dec 04, 2013 04:36 AM
John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Honesty, Integrity, Results, Experienced. HIRE Me!

When I look back at all the money I dished out to big box real estate companies I get sick.  I'm so glad I finally opened my own brokerage and now what I earn I keep.  My Agents pay me a nominal fee as I recall the days of me the money John Boy.  Referrals I pay up to 25% and expect to be paid the same.

Dec 04, 2013 04:36 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH Real Estate - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

This is a great question, because it's more than just the percentage of the split.  With my broker, she supplies services, including professional photography and listing brochures, and she gives the agents an excellent split, depending on experience and productivity.  I think that she's provided a far better value than a company like ReMax could.  Also, her approach enalbes us to be very competitive in the very high end of the market.  So you're talking about a much higher average sales price than many of our competitors.  

Bottom line, give your agents value!

Dec 04, 2013 05:00 AM
Jan Green
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Having formerly been a corporate wife, assissting my former husband transfer employees from other companies to ours, I can safely say that that swayed me from moving around so much.  It costs money to move and start over again and I'd just as soon stick with the same company and work harder on my business.

I've been with RE/MAX for almost 11 years now as a 100% agent and have no interest in moving currently.  I pay a flat fee (expensive) but I also receive tons of free tools.  In my opinion, it pays for itself.  So, offering better tools and skill sets to employees for a higher fee can work if the tools are constantly improving and evolving, helping employees to improve their business.

Dec 04, 2013 05:05 AM
Ron Marshall
Marshall Enterprises - Saint Michael, MN
Birdhouse Builder Extraordinaire

You are a wise man.  But even Solomon had problems with splits.  You will never please everyone.  But, the one piece of advice I would offer is just be consistent.

Dec 04, 2013 05:12 AM
John G. Johnston
John G. Johnston & Associates, LLC - Westcliffe, CO
An Exclusive Buyer's Agent ~ Westcliffe, CO

Bob  I used to have 6 agents working for me but I have more free time and make more money working by myself.  But I do try to help other agents (regardless who they work for) in the business to succeed.  I get satisfaction knowing I helped someone else learn this business.  (That said, I got an education from another agent today!)

Dec 04, 2013 10:37 AM
Teral McDowell
Referral Patners LLC - Murphy, TX

Hi Bob, my brokerage has an established split for its agents with an annual cap. Once you met the cap it is all yours until the next annual period begins. Plus they have a profit sharing of sorts that you can participate in by bringing someone else into the brokerage and you get it so long as you remain active with the brokerage.

Dec 04, 2013 11:47 AM
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Much of the time it really depends on the property.

But usually it is 55/45 (apx)

Dec 04, 2013 12:17 PM
Noah Seidenberg
Coldwell Banker - Evanston, IL
Chicagoland and Suburbs (800) 858-7917

I really agree with so many of the comments people posted here. It's a good question. Sometimes I fee I showed this person one house and they took it, I made out great. Others are clients who look at a million and one properties and nothing happens. Sometimes I say to myself when I get an easy one, that made up for all the people who ran me around and did nothing. But I am more of a buyer's agent.

 

Good question Bob. I think for the most part as a Real Estate Professional you really work hard for your money.

Dec 04, 2013 09:47 PM
Nick T Pappas
Assoc. Broker/Broker ABR, CRS, SFR, e-Pro, @Homes Realty Group, @HomesBirmingham & Providence Property Mgmnt, LLC Hun... - Huntsville, AL
Madison & Huntsville Alabama Real Estate Resource

Bob, I didn't care much for the split I had when I was with Remax, but at the time it was ok.  The franchise I worked for then changed names and went to a flat fee split...it was a very small fee which was great for the agents, but the owner was counting on volume...ultimately that didn't work out for them.  Where I currently hang my license is very equitable in terms of splits and and referral fees from company generated leads.

Dec 05, 2013 06:10 AM

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