When Being an SOB is a Good Thing

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408

I specialize in beachside condos.

I know some of the Association property managers, which are on-site, and some of them know me.

Usually, it is very helpful. Makes life easier.

This happened couple of years ago. I sold several units in this luxury beachside condo in Daytona Beach Shores. I have a lot of photos taken there, it is a beautiful building. However, working on a virtual tour, I noticed that I did not have a good photo of their clubroom.

So, I took my Canon with extra lenses and a flashlight, and went to the building. I know a few codes so getting in was not a problem whatsoever. I am walking along their beautiful hallway to the clubroom. On my way I pass manager's office, see the manager at his desk. I smile, waive and keep going. He jumped out of the office:

- Jon, what are you doing here?

I told him that I needed a photo of their beautiful clubroom for my website.

- You can’t just come and take photos. You are trespassing. You can only come when you have listings, and only on business of taking care of the unit, and you can come when you are showing the units, but other time you can’t. You can only be as a representative of the owner, or representing a buyer, not your own business, like your website, etc… You are trespassing, and I am asking you to leave immediately.

I know the guy well enough, he knows me, and he is asking me to leave? What an SOB...

But he was right. I had no business there except my own, and I was trespassing on a private property simply because I knew the code from the entrance door.

I apologized and left.

This manager was a real professional. He acted by the letter of his job description and in the best interests of the condo owners. How many other managers don’t care, and would let me do whatever I want…

He is no longer at this condo, but wherever he is, whatever condo he is managing, this property would have the owners’ rights upheld the way they should be.

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Kathy - it was the Manager, who acted very professional. I am glad I had enough brain to figure that he was right, and accept it, and leave.

Jan 15, 2014 12:06 PM #22
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Jon,

"...and in the best interests of the condo owners."

I'm not so sure. But, Debbie, #19 was right.

Bill

Jan 16, 2014 03:49 AM #23
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William - what in this situation set him apart from others is that he did not create a special rule for me simply because he knew who I was. If he is supposed to keep the place private, he did.

And he would not let me do it even if I ask him. Of course, I got the photo, but the legal way... :)

Jan 16, 2014 06:37 AM #24
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Jan 18, 2014 09:49 AM #25
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Kathy - thank you so much.

Jan 18, 2014 10:15 AM #26
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That was pretty intense, Jon. Would the manager be open to an appointment for the photo? After all, you are showcasing their property which is good for their business.

Jan 18, 2014 09:07 PM #27
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Good title and excellent point...

Jan 18, 2014 09:17 PM #28
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Mike - the manager wouldn't, but I have customers, and with the next legitimate customer I did it for him with no problem.

Jan 18, 2014 11:47 PM #29
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Thank you, Richard & Beth

Jan 18, 2014 11:47 PM #30
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A conscientious employee...can't really complain. I guess the lesson here is to take as many photos as possible when legitimate opportunities present!

Jan 19, 2014 12:19 AM #31
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Gary - you are right. The lesson learned.

Jan 19, 2014 12:46 AM #32
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Yes and no . . . that didn't seem to be the worst offense any could make and it helps the present owners when you go to list a place to sell quickly.  I am still inclinded to vote: SOB

Jan 19, 2014 07:55 AM #33
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Jon, you're right. He was doing his job. I also don't think what you were doing was so bad. You do business there regularly and it's helpful to the homeowners and potential buyers to have the best information available.

Jan 19, 2014 08:24 AM #34
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Jon, Doing your job ethically and thoroughly isn't always met with understanding, especially when representing an entire condo association. Glad he had no reservations to ask you to leave, that was the correct thing to do.

Jan 19, 2014 08:56 AM #35
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Carla - but the manager's job has nothing to do with us selling units quickly, of have better presentation of them on the internet. Actually, many boards would rather prefer haveno photos on the Internet, and I was once told that I have to receive the permission of the board to post photos on the internet. When I laughed at the idea of them controlling my blog, they kicked me out of the property.

But I sure posted photos on the Internet :)

Jan 19, 2014 10:34 AM #36
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Connie - yes he was, and he did not have to accommodate me, and he didn't. No offence.

Jan 19, 2014 10:35 AM #37
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Wanda - it is very true, sometimes it is unfortunate.

Jan 19, 2014 10:36 AM #38
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Erica - here is the scenario. he walks me to the club room, and the President of the Board stops him and asks why a stranger is there. After all the manager is just a manager and does not have that much flexibility, and, actually, also has to abide by the rules.

What would he tell the president? that he knows me and I am a good guy? Or that for some reason I have the right to go and take photos of the private property while not working any a buyer or the seller? Or suggest that the President go to my site and fel proud for their property presented there?

Seriously, he didwhat he was supposed to do. He should have let me do it only under one condition: if I had thelegal right to do it. And I didn't.

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I can totally see your point. I've got a couple condo buildings that have just re-modeled their lobbies. So my marketing ( a.k.a. My website) now has out-of-date photos. I too have a pretty good relationship with many of the Property Managers in my area. (Used to be better when I was Membership Chairman of THE neighborhood assocaition...heck, I took them all to lunch!) 

While the Property Manager may have been doing his job, I think he would of been far better off to HELP you than HINDER you. By agents having correct information about a building, it helps US sell the building and bring in new residents. 

How about this one...you have buyers that can't come see the building and have asked YOU to take pictures of the building for them. They've had a bad experience with previous agents and their photos NOT being at ALL a representation of what they purchased? 

Hmmmmm...so let me see what happens when I go take pictures of those lobbies. 

Jan 24, 2014 11:11 AM #41
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Thom - while I understand your point, I might havenot relayed the encounter correctly. Yes, i mumbled something about customers wanting to see before coming, but he asked me which unit they were looking for, and I did not have anyone at this moment, so he asked me to leave.

When I have a concrete situation where I work with the Buyer, and we have a unit or units in mind in the building, it is a different story.

There was a distinction.

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