And Nothing Happened...

Real Estate Broker/Owner with Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408

When I read about the mass killings, I always ask myself, what would have happened if the shooter were killed before s/he could kill anyone? Would we hear about it if this how it would end up in the school rampage, which took the lives of 26 people?

Or the shooting in the movie theater, or that rampage at Virginia Tech?

What if I tell you that there were supposed to be a mass shooting in Daytona Beach, and the only reason you did not hear about it is because the shooter died first?

A few weeks ago we were stunned to learn from the news that a young man, just 20 years old, armed with a shotgun, started shooting at cars in the street at about 4 AM, and then broke the glass and entered Halifax Medical Center and terrorized nurses and patients?

What if I tell yo that he threatened to kill them? Walked into the room where the nurse was attending to an old lady, put her on her knees and demanded oral sex?

But she grabbed the shotgun and the fight erupted? And she screamed for help, but Police, running the floors, could not hear them from the closed doors of that vast usually quiet space?

And that he finally pulled the gun with all his strength out of the nurse’s hands and at that moment the barrel was tight to his chest and the shotgun went off killing the guy?

And hearing the shot, the Police rushed to the room and stormed the door?

The Police reported that he did just that, committed a suicide.

Because the guy had his pants down, and demanded sexual favors, the Police in the news did not name the nurse.


Oddly enough, when we were talking to our client, she mentioned that she was close to dying very recently. She was that nurse in the room where it all ended.

She said she was not so sure it really was a suicide. She told me that it was, probably, an accident. She said her fingers were still hurting after he pulled the shotgun out of her hands, but he pulled it with such force, that the barrel hit his chest and at that moment it went off and killed the guy.

Who knows if that’s how he wanted, or it just happened.

Because she fought the guy, she is here and he is dead. She wouldn’t make it to the cable networks… after all nobody died except for this 20-year old guy.

But this is the beauty of the story. He was asking nurses whether they wanted to die that morning. But he died first.

The nurse is traumatized. She is not working right now, undergoing counseling. 

Probably she saved more than her own life. We do not know who might have died if he had it his way…

If we know that someone had prevented the death of people, we would call him/her a hero. But do we know them? There was no killing, there were no cameras days and night, nothing happened. There was no news.

Imagine the news “the Police officer shot and killed several men in Boston’s Logan Airport, who allegedly were planning to hijack the plane and fly in into the  World Trade Center tower in New York”

Now, knowing what happened next, would we consider this officer a hero?

Imagine, how many heroes' names we never heard. Nothing happened because of them.

Nothing happened...what a blessing!

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John Meussner
Mason-McDuffie Mortgage, Conventional Loans, Jumbo Loans, FHA, 203(k), USDA, VA, - Walnut Creek, CA
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Jon - it is amazing what the major media outlets allow us to see.  There are many heroes like this nurse but we rarely hear about them.  I personally feel this is a fine example of support for my opinion - we should all learn to protect ourselves and not rely on 'programs' or laws to protect us. 

Jan 28, 2014 02:22 PM #1
Lynn B. Friedman
Atlanta Homes ODAT Realty Call/Text 404-939-2727 Buckhead - Midtown - Westside -- and more ... - Atlanta, GA
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Dear Jon,

How wonderful that she survived. Now she will have a chance to rebuild her life after the trauma. Best wishes to her.

Have a happy day -

Jan 28, 2014 02:45 PM #2
Pamela Seley
West Coast Realty Division - Murrieta, CA
Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA

Jon, and the chances of that nurse being your client? Very traumatic experience will take some time for her to heal from it. The media not reporting it is an example that what happened doesn't fit their agenda, jmho.

Jan 28, 2014 05:33 PM #3
Ted Baker
Carmody and Associates LLC - Winter Haven, FL

News coverage has become a major issue for me.  They simply do not print stories that do not fit to their social agenda - which is beyond scary for me.  While way out of my areas of expertise, it is my understanding that certain psychotropic medications used in treatment of mental illness may lead to massively violent behavior and may be an explanation of the mass shooting incidents that we read about where the shooter was being treated for mental illness (an unfortunately common thread in many of these events).

We do not read about the possible connection of the violence and the prescription medications in use.  I believe that part of the story does not fit the social agenda of the government and the media wanting to grab the guns.  It seems they do not want the violence to stop because, to quote Rahm Emmanuel, former Obama Chief of Staff, they don't ever let a good crisis go to waste.

I have past the point of really not liking politics or politicians.  The good of the Country and the massive problems facing our society don't seem to even make the list of their priorities.  It is all about money, power and staying in office for another term.


Best wishes to your client who survived - even if anonymously. 



Jan 28, 2014 06:06 PM #4
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

You know Jon, I've wondered about this sort of thing many times.  I think about this often when I see time travel movies and it's such a mind boggling concept.

Jan 28, 2014 07:42 PM #5
Geri Sonkin
Douglas Elliman Real Estate 516-457-7103 - Merrick, NY
Long Island Real Estate & Staging Expert

These stories should hit the news. We should be told, as a nation, about the near misses, about the ones who were thwarted in their attempts to create havoc in the world. I suspect it will take a very long time for that nurse to be able to walk into a hospital without flashbacks to her moment of horror.  It is also terrifying to think that the price for being in the wrong place at the wrong time can be your life.

Jan 28, 2014 08:18 PM #6
Fred Griffin presently on Leave of Absence
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

     You will never hear a story like this from NPR, Huffington Post, CBS, nor the Sarasota Herald Tribune nor the New York Times or any other Big Media.  They have an agenda which includes disarming the populace and establishing a Marxist police state for our protection.  "Hero stories" don't fit well with that Agenda.  -

Jan 28, 2014 10:05 PM #7
ReadySetLoan Condo Approval Team
ReadySetLoan Condo Team LLC - South Windsor, CT
The FHA/VA Condo Project Approval Specialists

What an incredible story!  The nurse is absolutely a hero having saved countless lives, including her own and I hope that she recovers from this psychological trauma.  How many other stories exist like this that the media ignores?  Thank you for sharing.

Jan 28, 2014 10:54 PM #8
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

Many crazy very traumatic stories out there Jon. This shotgun blast the way you described it does sound like the gun went off into the shooter, not suicide. Any of us can be in this kind of situation as it is so random. Some people are so mentally ill it is astounding, but that is today's society.

Jan 28, 2014 11:29 PM #9
William J. Archambault, Jr.
The Real Estate Investment Institute - Houston, TX

I like that nurse!

She's a real hero, not a sheep like most victims!

The only thing that can stop an armed bad guy is an active and armed good guy! If the good guy isn't armed he/she can fight with bare hands! What's the worse that can happen? They get killed fighting instead of executed.


Jan 29, 2014 06:52 AM #10
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Jon what a story and yes I must agree if no mass murder then it is not News Worthy.... I have a few stories you would not believe(...Diane's cousin's husband is a Boston Police Officer and her other cousin's husband is a Boston Fire Man.....) they did not make the news....but.....

Jan 29, 2014 02:35 PM #11
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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John - but no mass killings, no news :) If she did not fight him, and as a result of the accident he got killed, he could kill at least the nurse and the patient, and maybe several more people, who knows.

Jan 30, 2014 09:11 AM #12
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Lynn - it is not easy for her. Right after it all happened, she was calm and joking. Not any more. And it got very weird form. The guys was dark-skinned Hispanic, and she start panicking in the company of people with dark skin.

She is not a racist, her husband was black, but she said she was in the elevator with a hospital employee, who she knows, and still she started gasping for air, she was choking...

She is afraid that it may afffect her job.

Jan 30, 2014 09:14 AM #13
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

I can't believe you heard this story first-hand. How awful. Poor nurse. What she's experiencing is called post traumatic stress disorder. She can't stop replaying it in her own mind and of course, anyone who resembles the attacker is going to start an instant flashback. Racism has nothing to do with it. She needs counseling before it becomes worse. Hyper-vigilence is a symptom. She's always going to be looking for signs that something is not right and she won't be able to relax.

Feb 02, 2014 06:00 AM #14
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Jill - imagine my surprise when she first mentioned it. She is undergoing counseling, and you are absolutely correct that she is suffering from PTSD. It did not happen right away, she was even joking when talking to police, there seemingly was no problem, but it came to haunt her later.

I was very careful at first, did not want to bother her with questions, and kept my curiosity at bay, but she wants to talk about it, and now I feel as if when she talks about it again and again, it helps her to relieve the stress, to share it. She herself said that we are her angels.

We had more conversations, and she was going in minute details about the whole ordeal, of what was going through her head at any moment of this ordeal...

Feb 02, 2014 10:04 AM #15
Gina Tufano
Ask Gina & Company with Pearson Smith Realty - Sterling, VA
Ask Gina & Company, Northern Virginia Real Estate

Jon, I got chills, this woman is certainly a hero and I am so grateful that she fought.

Feb 03, 2014 06:50 AM #16
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Gina - I got chills when I heard it first. It is a scary-scary encounter

Feb 03, 2014 01:19 PM #17
Than Maynard
Coldwell Banker Heart of Oklahoma - Purcell, OK
Broker - Licensed to List & Sell - 405-990-8862

You are correct. It does NOT fit the meme, so it goes unreported.

Although his death will be used by liberals as a statistic of 'gun fatalities' or 'death by gun'. They won't mention it as a suicide or self defense, just that someone died from a gunshot. This helps keep their numbers high for their gun control grabs.

I am glad she was willing to defend herself and fight back. I too wonder what would have happened if a driver, guard, nurse or maintenance worker was armed and could have stopped the attempted assault before it went that far.

At least Florida has a stand your ground law, as does Oklahoma, but there are many states that still say you must run away. That is complete stupidity.

Mar 10, 2014 01:38 AM #18
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