Fishhawk Lake-Are Homeowners Association Restrictions a Bad Thing?

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Fishhawk Lake-Are Homeowners Association Restrictions a Bad Thing?

Well, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Often when there is a Homeowner's Association, potential buyers will make a mental leap to that Gestapo-like mentality and so their questions are all geared around the "restrictions" aspect instead of grasping the idea of it being  more of a guide to keep the values up in that particular community.

Fishhawk Lake is a private lake and does have a Homeowner's Association. We are not a gated community. The CC&Rs (Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions) may SEEM lengthy, but as with any contractural and legal document, it contains a lot of "legal-ease" to cover all bases. This is what Wikipedia has to say:

 In the United States, a homeowner association is a corporation formed by a real estate developer for the purpose of marketing, managing, and selling of homes and lots in a residential subdivision.

Our community at Fishhawk Lake was developed in the late 1960s

Fishhawk Lake newsletter 1967

and the original developer wanted it as a private lake to fish and enjoy water activities in a quiet country atmosphere. He was a bit ahead of his time, as it was a hidden treasure for many years, slow to find new buyers way out in the middle of nowhere. 

Fishhawk Lake Estates

Fast Forward....

I certainly enjoy marketing our area at Fishhawk Lake as a lifestyle, not a community that will restrict people from enjoying where they choose to live in a relaxed atomosphere. Having been a part of thisprivate lake community  (and it is a community)for over 10 years and having had my husband be a past president, I'm okay with the rules and regulations. In reality, we just want to keep our community clean and pristine--just like the forests and waters and nature that surround us and is the very REASON why we live here!

                     

Here are a few of the CC&Rs that I appeciate:

Oftentimes, homeowner's fees are exorbitant. Ours are pretty darned reasonable from what my clients say over and over. I tell them that it's once a year, $1700.00 and that includes all Fishhawk Lake amenities including water and sewer. I had a fellow from San Diego exclaim recently that he pays more than that in a summer and he doesn't even water his landscape that much!

You can't rent out your property at Fishhawk Lake for weekends to strangers or put it on Craigslist to cover your mortgage. This keeps our place quieter and safer. There is one way in and one way out...we are secluded and often, as happens with country properties, people who are here only briefly, for a day or two don't seem to CARE about not throwing trash out the window, because they'll never be back! There aren't tons of loud parties and drunken brawls happening, or people getting hurt on the lake. This type of place doesn't invite that. 

We don't allow certain kinds of fencing or really bright colors on homes. It's to blend into nature and not block a neighbor's view of this glorious slice of paradise I call home. And you won't see a bunch of dead vehicles lined up in someone's driveway or a lot of ugly tarps covering God Knows What. There are certain trees that you can't cut down, like evergreens unless they are posing a hazard of some sort or are diseased. 

These are just some highpoints to consider when looking at Fishhawk Lake...so don't let the idea of a Homeowner's Association scare you off. Call me--let's talk about the POSITIVES of our HOA! 

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Here is a link about some common questions about Fishhawk Lake.  Intrigued? Call me for more details!

Gayle Rich-Boxman

 REALTOR® Vernonia Realty Direct: (503)755-2905

"Your Gateway to the Lake"

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Debb Janes EcoBroker and Bernie Stea JD
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Gayle, those CCR's and HOA's can preserve the neighborhood values - as you point out so well. I appreciate them greatly for the most part, but it's always good to read through CCR's BEFORE buying a home - if you can't live with the rules - don't buy.  

Apr 17, 2014 01:11 AM #1
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Roy Kelley
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You make all of us want to have a home on Fishhawk Lake!  I always enjoy your photographs of the area.

Apr 17, 2014 01:26 AM #2
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Wayne and Jean Marie Zuhl
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Hi Gayle,

I think that in many instances the HOA since it's made up of members of the community want to make living there more enjoyable for all.  Roy, again you made me laugh.

Apr 17, 2014 03:36 AM #4
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
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Gayle,

Roy is precious with his comment, and then there is Richard...I needed a laugh with email crashes and website crashes...I think HOA's can be great, and on occasion there is some nincompoop who muddies the waters...I think that is reflection of life in general.  We are not interested in living in an HOA setting, but then we are iconoclasts every which way...LOL A

Apr 17, 2014 03:55 AM #5
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Debb, I have made it one of my e-mails early on in the process...much easier to send an attachment than try to have them find it inside the Fishhawk Lake website for the members...not so easy! 

Roy, glad to hear that!!

Richard, oh Richard....only YOU. Ha! We don't have any streakers, and with some of the lower temperatures we experience until late spring, most MEN wouldn't want to engage in that outdoor activity as people would talk and possibly laugh! (Memories of George Kastanza from Seinfeld..."I was in the POOL!")

Wayne and Jean, we all just want to get along! This group of people who are on the board are working as a team, not letting egos get in the way. 

Alexandra, Roy is so sweet, and Richard is SO naughty! Haven't seen him for eons and then  he pops up with THIS! (no pun intended). We never looked for an HOA setting, either. But, since you've been here, you know that we're just not the norm in any way, shape or manner. Yes, you both are ICONOCLASTS. That's one of the reasons why I love you both.

Apr 17, 2014 04:13 AM #6
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Good overview Gayle of what seem like reasonable rules for the community. I in general hate HOAs but we have had them since around 1990 in Texas. I see their point but I also see how they can turn Gestapo. In Texas they have the power to foreclose for not paying the dues. I like your intent there at Fishhawk Lake to keep it a peaceful community.

Apr 17, 2014 07:51 AM #7
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Gary, I know--they definitely can be ridiculous in their right to push members around. Not us...we have a tendency to be quite lenient.

Apr 17, 2014 12:01 PM #8
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Gayle, They have learned how to keep the integrity of Fishhawk Lake for the homeowners. It sounds like a wonderful place to live

Apr 17, 2014 12:50 PM #9
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Debbie, it IS!

Apr 17, 2014 03:05 PM #10
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James Dray
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1700.00 is not bad but it would be better if it had a golf course.  Just saying

Apr 17, 2014 09:15 PM #11
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Roy Kelley
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Have a great day and an outstanding weekend. We will be watching for more of your photographs.

Apr 17, 2014 11:15 PM #12
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Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
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Gail,

I really like how you explain the HOA homeowner restriction features unique to Fishhawk Estates Lake!  That developer was definitely ahead of his times and you were smart enough to settle there! What a beautiful place to live and enjoy life. You're the perfect REALTOR of choice for this area too!

Apr 17, 2014 11:58 PM #13
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James, it could easily have been that...there's one only a half hour away...

Roy, blessings to you and I hope to bring up a couple of photos....going to WolfHaven tomorrow!

Patricia~Amen to all of that--thank you!

Apr 18, 2014 01:41 AM #14
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Dorie Dillard CRS GRI ABR
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Good morning Gayle,

What a wonderful presentation on Fishhawk Lake and its history and how the HOA was developed. That developer was way ahead of it's time! $1,700 a year and it includes water and sewer...that is a deal!!!  I'm learning more and more about your slice in heaven!!

Apr 20, 2014 09:50 PM #15
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Joanna Cohlan
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Gayle, I missed this one but I must say that the history of Fishhawk Lake is indicative that a lot of time and thought went into the project.  And that is why it must be so desirable and pristine-that $1700 is an unbelievable bargain for living this lifestyle.

Apr 21, 2014 12:46 PM #16
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HOAs are a good thing. They preserve property VALUES.  A simple fact overlooked by many. 

BTW, the HOA fees don't sound so bad when quoted monthly, $141.67. 

I do get calls from folks who say they don't want a home with an HOA.  HA!  You can't have an entrance sign in this area without an HOA to specify who maintains the entrance sign.

Apr 21, 2014 09:03 PM #17
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