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I Like Dates, Don't You?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. BK629999

 

I remember when a buyer and I looked at a house that advertised a 'newer' air conditioning system and roof. We questioned what 'newer' meant. In checking further and asking for documentation we found that the system was 13 years old. The original paperwork for the unit was all we needed for clarification. We were also able to get an accurate age on the roof.

When looking for a house to purchase, buyers like to know dates. Insurance companies I Like Dates, Don't You?also like to know dates. They like to know how old the roof is, how old the A/C is. Has the electric and plumbing been updated? When? How old are the appliances?

Time flies and sometimes these dates slip away from sellers.

In selling a house it's important to gather those important documents to pass along to a buyer, should they or their insurance company ask for them. If those items have recently been updated or replaced those are items that should be included in the notations of the property listing. These dates often help a prospective buyer in making a decision on a particular house.

On traditional sales sellers fill out a property disclosure, noting any defects they are aware of. But, often, questions come up. With proper documentation and receipts there's no question as to the age of the roof, air conditioning system, appliances or hot water heater.

Owners, gather all those important papers and keep them in a handy place.

And buyers, be sure to have your Realtor ask to see copies of these documents.

NOTE: On foreclosed properties, there are no warranties, no property disclosures and no documentation. The sellers that owned the property are gone. And, the banks selling the properties do not have any of these records. So, unfortunately we don't have dates on appliances, the electrical system, the roof, etc.  But, check with your city or county to see what dates permits were pulled.

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Don Baker
Lane Realty - Eatonton, GA
Lake Sinclair Specialist

I think he meant 'newer than my neighbor's'. Nice post.

Jun 25, 2014 09:03 AM
Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

Everything is newer than rocks and dirt so I guess that is an acceptable answer for some. Not for me or any lawyer looking for a case of misrepresentation

Jun 25, 2014 09:25 AM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

I like dates too, Sandy.  Except, when all those websites want to know the year I was born. It makes me feel old in a hurry.  I've tried to simply put "Older than the Gods," but they don't accept a format of letters, when they want numbers.

Jun 25, 2014 09:47 AM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

approximate dates are a good idea.  Folks want to have an idea of the age of things so they can plan for any future repairs/replacements.

Jun 25, 2014 12:46 PM
Dan Dee McGinnis The Pumpkin Man
HomeSmart - Phoenix, AZ
The Pumpkin Man

Ginny

YES you are right, DATES are awesome and valuable pieces of information. recent

almost new, or newer to one person may mean 2 weeks, another 2 months, or another 2 years. not a good thing

Jun 25, 2014 02:05 PM
Dan Dee McGinnis The Pumpkin Man
HomeSmart - Phoenix, AZ
The Pumpkin Man

Sorry Sandy, I called you Ginny, it is time for me to go to bed.......

Jun 25, 2014 02:06 PM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

If the dates aren't available, an inspector can usually estimate them. But the best thing is to have the actual paperwork.

Jun 25, 2014 09:09 PM
Richie & You
people first-then business - Riverside, CA
Author & Consultant

Too much data and the circuit might blow...I like to keep it to what is relevant

Jun 26, 2014 12:22 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Tammie, we also have a seller property disclosure that we use here.  You're right, often sellers don't remember appliance dates.  But, we do try to find out dates on the main operating systems of the house.

Jun 26, 2014 12:56 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Don, by golly, I think you've got it. Maybe it was newer than his neighbors a/c. LOL

Jun 26, 2014 01:15 AM
Julie Brown
Steffes Group, Inc. - Mount Pleasant, IA
Broker-Associate, Mt. Pleasant, Iowa

I wonder if those Sellers have kids.  Are they still considered "newer" when they start middle school!  ;)

Jun 26, 2014 02:30 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Paul, I suppose you're right, everything is newer than rocks and dirt.  Never thought of that.

 

Jun 26, 2014 06:03 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

You're so funny, Myrl. I can't imagine that you could be that old.  I hope I'm doing as good as you when I'm older than the Gods. -kidding, LOL

Jun 26, 2014 06:05 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Joan, approximate dates do give the buyer the advantage of having an idea of when things may begin to need replacing. So true.

Jun 26, 2014 06:06 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Drew another option for newer, if the seller doesn't have the date is to indicate that the a/c is less thank 5 years old, or something to that effect.  Thanks for kudos!

Jun 26, 2014 06:08 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Pumpkin Man, Well I have to ask why they call you the Pumpkin Man, is it the orange suit?  And yes, you're right... new could be 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 2 decades.

Jun 26, 2014 06:10 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Kat, often we do look to our inspectors to come up with an idea of the date. On our water heaters and air conditiong systems the serial number usually includes the manufacture date.  I was out at a house last month and I asked the seller the age of outside a/c unit. He said he put it in less than 6 months ago.  I could tell by looking at the unit it had been around for a while.  I checked the serial number and it had a date of 09 04.  It was 10 years old. I asked him about it and he said, "oh, I know, I took it out of another property."

Jun 26, 2014 06:16 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Richie, good plan of attack... only what's relevant.

Jun 26, 2014 06:17 AM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Julie, your comment made me laugh. My girls are now 19 and 22 years old.  Occasionally I have a slip of the tongue and say, 'my kids', but I always catch myself. They aren't kids anymore.

Jun 26, 2014 06:18 AM
Jeff Jensen
The Federal Savings Bank/Lending in 50 states - Greenwich, CT

Careful selection of words can create an entirely false assessment of a property.

Jun 26, 2014 07:53 AM