You Say The Electrician Was Here Yesterday And Fixed This?

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You Say The Electrician Was Here Yesterday

 And Fixed This?


 I had to go to Rocklin, CA today to solve an electrical problem. One of the circuits “tripped” a few minutes after being reset. The staff was not able to find the problem and needed to correct the lighting issue soon.

 They called an electrician earlier that they have worked with in the past. The young guy apparently spent several hours working on the situation. At the end of the day, he said that he had found the problem and fixed it. The lights tripped again shortly after he had left the property.

I had a opportunity to start from the beginning, not knowing what he had done. Looking inside the ground box, a couple of things did not look right. One of the black wires was not attached at all and was left unprotected. Not a good practice when dealing with electricity.

I also noticed that there was a green ground wire connected to the white wires. I found that curious too! Not something that a qualified contractor would leave as completed. I had some work to do here.

Working logically through the wires, I was able to get the problem to stop. In the process the wires were corrected and some more information came to light. There was a conduit that we could not yet determine where it is going but I will found out in the morning.

I am certain that this new problem can be solved once we find out where it is leading. But for now there original issue has been solved. I'm not sure why an electrician couldn't do what I did in an hour.




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Donna Foerster
HomeSmart Realty Group - Parker, CO
Metro Denver Real Estate Assistant

Tom~ Those folks were sure lucky that they called you. I wonder if the guy who came out was really an electrician, or just more of a handyman.

Aug 05, 2014 01:37 AM #31
Kathleen Daniels
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
San Jose Homes for Sale-Probate & Trust Specialist

Cuz he did not know what the &^** he was doing.  That's what me thinks

Sadly, he likely got paid and he left an electrical risk behind him. Thank goodness you were called in to fix it and get it done correctly.

Aug 05, 2014 01:38 AM #32
Sybil Campbell
Long and Foster REALTORS® 5234 Monticello Ave Williamsburg, Virginia - Williamsburg, VA
REALTOR® ABR, SFR, SRES Williamsburg, Virginia

It's pretty sad that a REALTOR fixed a problem that a "licensed electrician" missed.

Aug 05, 2014 02:05 AM #33
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Realtor Top 1%
RE/MAX Gold - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

I've had many a problem that needed to be fixed after a "licensed electrician" messed it up and I've also had repairs done by those who weren't licensed and were done properly, so I've come to conclude that a license doesn't necessarily mean diddly squat.

Aug 05, 2014 02:14 AM #34
Dorie Dillard CRS GRI ABR
Coldwell Banker United Realtors® ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
Serving Buyers & Sellers in NW Austin Real Estate

Hi Tom,

Trying to say money by not using a licensed electrician is not the way to go. As witnessed in this case even a license doesn't guarantee a good job!

Aug 05, 2014 03:25 AM #35
Kat Palmiotti
406-270-3667,, Broker, Blackstone Realty Group - brokered by eXp Realty - Kalispell, MT
The House Kat

Maybe that wasn't a "real" electrician and was someone's brother/cousin. Thankfully you came to the rescue!

Aug 05, 2014 04:37 AM #37
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC


It looks like the work . . . .  was almost done.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Aug 05, 2014 04:41 AM #38
Karen Mathers - REALTOR®
Keller Williams Vero Beach - Vero Beach, FL
When it Matters, Choose Mathers! 772-532-3221

It is very sad to see "professionals" take payment for work that they did not actually do and may have in fact been dangerous as they left it! 

Aug 05, 2014 04:51 AM #39
Gerard Gilbers
Higher Authority Markeing - Asheboro, NC
Your Marketing Master

The homeowners were lucky to get someone who was so well rounded in "the trades". We created our own book of home circuits shortly after we purchased our home. It may not be all inclusive but it gives us a much quicker idea of where to look for problems.

Aug 05, 2014 05:01 AM #40
Jeff Jensen
The Federal Savings Bank/Lending in 50 states - Greenwich, CT

That sounds like a pretty scary situation you stumbled into.

Aug 05, 2014 07:56 AM #41
Jeff Dowler, CRS
Solutions Real Estate - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude


I have a favorite inspector who often jokes about some of the stuff he has seen supposedly by licensed trades people that is wrong and even a safety or fire hazard. He always comments that the owner got in Uncle Vinny to do the work.


Aug 05, 2014 11:14 AM #42
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366 Well, I had called a plumber at my home to fix the leak at the base of faucets. When he left, the leaks were not fixed - however, there were additional leaks under the sink and have to get that taken care of ASAP. These contractors....

Aug 05, 2014 01:59 PM #43
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

Shabby electrical work is about five cents a dozen these days. Good on you for noticing things.

Aug 05, 2014 03:20 PM #44
Kathy Smiley
Rodeo Realty ~ Fine Estates Westlake Village - Westlake Village, CA
Westlake Village, CA - "Making YOU Smile!"

Tom - great story about actually fixing the problem! Also, I like your Animoto video - great job marketing yourself on your blog!

Aug 05, 2014 04:57 PM #45
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage

Having a license does have some requirements but is not a guarantee of professional workmanship, we still have to do our research in finding a qualified contractor.

Aug 05, 2014 10:32 PM #46
Geoff ONeill
John L. Scott Medford - Medford, OR

Maybe he meant "rigged" instead of fixed.

Aug 06, 2014 01:21 AM #47
Bruce Kunz
C21 Solid Gold Realty, Brick, NJ, 732-920-2100 - Howell, NJ
REALTOR®, Brick & Howell NJ Homes for Sale

That looks like quite a mess, Tom. It is good you were able to eliminate the immediate risk and are going back to solve the problem completely.
Thanks for sharing.


Aug 06, 2014 01:31 AM #48
Mike Cooper, GRI
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

Tom, sometimes you need to use the word "electrician" sparingly. Too many techs in the field and run wires and take care of simple stuff, but when it comes to complicated repairs they are inexperienced and only guessing. I run into it almost weekly. 

Aug 06, 2014 01:47 AM #49
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Tom, I hate when this stuff happens. You call in the so called expert in the field and they muck it all up. I guess it is job security, but very frustrating.

Aug 09, 2014 12:30 AM #50
Sharon Parisi
United Real Estate Dallas - Dallas, TX
Dallas Homes

It is frustrating when a licensed professional does a poor job.  I have seen many skilled non professionals repair their work.

Aug 09, 2014 04:41 PM #51
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