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What Do I Do About Broken Window Seals?

By
Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

I get this question a lot:  What do I do about broken window seals?

For sure, sooner or later, most double-pane windows (gas filled) will develop a broken seal.  The intert gas inside, argon or krypton, will leak out, get replaced by air, and that air will bring in condensation.

People often ask me questions as if I am "the" expert on everything.  For sure I am not!

This colorful display almost looks like it has been painted from the inside for effect.

It has not.

This is a broken seal.

It's also a very large window!  They aren't cheap to replace!

Can it be fixed?  No.

There are some window manufacturers which guarantee their windows and will actually come to the house and repair a broken seal.

This window is not one of them.

What causes the seal to break?

  • Wind can cause deflection of the glass.
  • Pressure washing, a big no no.
  • Putting on those stick-em-up, reflective window coatings.
  • Some window cleaning chemicals can cause the glass to expand and contract.
  • And, of course, plain old poor installation.  This window is only seven years old.
  • I've seen them fail because someone with a heat gun was trying to strip paint and hit the window's edge.

Fogging caused by a broken seal does NOT substantially affect the energy performance of the window.

Don't say that to the window repair company.  They will tell you different.  Of course. 

To the right is a classic bull's eye pattern thermal image of a broken window seal.  It's not too affected by the broken seal.  As the window fills with air the two panes are drawn together, creating the bull's eye.

And if installed right, with proper insulation and framing, do you know what's every bit as efficient as a super-duper, double-pane window?

A single-pane window with an attractive storm window on the outside!

These two components create a pocket of dead air, which acts as insulation.

The cliched photos or drawings that I have seen of igloos have a round dome with a small door protrusion on one side.  That protrusion has a seal on the outside and a second one on the inside.  This creates a pocket of dead air - insulation!

The advantage of the single-pane and storm window combination is that there is no fogginess that develops between the two panes.  And the combination is much cheaper.

So, what can you do with a broken window seal and fogginess between the panes?

Live with it or replace the window panel. 

What would I replace it with?  I think you know.

My recommendation:  when it comes time to make decisions like this check around!   We have the ability today to do substantial research and evaluate many opinions.  Develop your own information and make your own decision!   For a window this size the decision can get very expensive!

 

 

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(54)

Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Good posting here thank you...BTW...they have spiders down here that are able to enter into any little window crack successfully and emerge into your house

Nov 23, 2014 04:38 AM
Pamela Seley
West Coast Realty Division - Murrieta, CA
Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA

Having had to replace the glass on double-pane windows in my own home because of broken seals (minor earthquakes can break the seals) it is quite expensive, but the frame does not have to be replaced. The alternative is ugly fogged up windows. The accumulation of moisture does concern me, so my preference would be to replace the glass with low-e dual panes, which does help with insulation in the hot summer months in SoCal, and I've been told (whether or not it's true) low-e dual panes are more durable. 

Nov 23, 2014 05:44 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Richie - there are more spiders in most peoples' houses than there are people in the neighborhood.

See Pamela.  I had not thought about earthquakes as being one of the reasons!  We have them here, but not very often.  We had a 6.1 in 2011, but I don't remember broken window seals as being one of the consequences.

Nov 23, 2014 07:52 AM
Dalene Sparks
Lincoln, CA

You are right Jay all Insulated units will fail.  My first career was in the retail and wholesale glass industry, so I tell my clients to consult the expert in their area so that can have the unit replace with the same or like kind of glass.  There are may different kinds of glass and gas that fill the units and only a trained person in the glass industry will be able to tell you what you need. 

Nov 23, 2014 09:31 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Dalene - every manufacturer has their own products, seals and recommendations.  It's hard to keep track!  But, yes, consult a trained pro.

Nov 23, 2014 09:36 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Jay- we had our sliding glass door here in Delray do that and yes we did replace them but with single pane patio door.

Nov 23, 2014 09:50 AM
Chuck Mixon
The Keyes Company - Cutler Bay, FL
Cutler Bay Specialist, GRI, CDPE, BPOR

yes Double pane glass can be a Pane LOL, I have given up on them at this time. Had them replaced one time but the hassle was not worth it again.

Nov 23, 2014 10:37 AM
Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

Jay, I've got one of those right now. I guess I'll be pulling some siding off this Spring and replace that window. 

Nov 23, 2014 12:25 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Kathy - that and a storm would be efficient and effective.

When I was a kid my mother didn't want us saying pain in the ass Chuck.  So we said pain in the ain.  It worked!

Mike - paint it pretty colors like this window and veeeola!  No replace-o.

Nov 23, 2014 06:00 PM
James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

I don't know the name of the windows we have but one that has already done that.  We called the builder and it was replaced at no charge.  We learned the window has a five year warranty.  You can bet we have written this down and now know who to call

Nov 23, 2014 06:40 PM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

We had double paned windows break and it definitely took away from the enjoyment of looking outside.  We called the company we purchased it from and were able to get free replacements, but I would prefer single pane and storm windows.

Nov 23, 2014 06:55 PM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

The good news is that the window companies are providing longer warranties than in the past. I recently had a listing where my sellers was ready to replace all his windows. I told him to first check his warranty--and he got them all replaced for free. (That seller really likes me!).

Nov 23, 2014 10:08 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Jay, 

One of the largest cause of loss of seal its thermal expansion and contraction which typically most extreme on the Southern and Western side of the home. Then depending on how the window design (cheaper windows have thinner glass) and type of spacer this can exasperate the situation.

Depending on the window design often the pane can be removed and replaced. I had several windows blow and had the panes replaced.

Nov 23, 2014 11:18 PM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

Jay, this is a great post..i always suspected that about power washing!!

So interesting on the single pain window with the storm on it though...

Nov 23, 2014 11:47 PM
Doug, Marjorie & Kevin McKay
RE/MAX REAL ESTATE MOUNTAIN VIEW - Chestermere, AB
Calgary & Chestermere - 403-207-1776

Here in Canada we have window seals repaired all of the time.  They drill into the window,  fog it they put in a gasget in the hole and then it clears over several weeks and then it is clear.  The companies that do this and there are several are really good at offering warrantees.  Maybe somebody should buy a franchise there.  -http://www.clearvucanada.com/

Nov 24, 2014 03:37 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

James - great that you can get that done.  Repairing on their dime is the way to go!

Kat - that is the big rub.  And the impetus for most people to get them repaired or replaced.

Nina - that was a huge financial savings for them!   I bet they have your photo on the fridge!

Don - our sun room is a southern exposure but no broken seals yet (!) in 17 years.  We have the butyl edges though, and those are getting sucked in.  Pretty ugly.  That room alone has 23 windows!

Ginny - power washing is a bane to mankind.  Many of those guys haven't an idea of how to do it right.  Damage happens.  I've seen the bumper stickers!

M&D - I might not be buying a franchise anytime soon, but it's neat to know a company is out there that will do that.  That's a business that will always have business!

Nov 24, 2014 06:24 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

this is a very common thing here on inspections...a few months ago, a buyer for one of our listings wrote an amendment that added $500 for the window "expert" to add "an additional seal" as a preventative measure to other windows in the house....never heard of it...asked several other window companies who said it was bogus....and the Seller's told them to "just pay it"....another reason why attorneys should practice law and not real estate.

Nov 27, 2014 12:20 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That was certainly a bogus claim, S&D.  Nice try.

Hope yours was a wonderful holiday!

Nov 27, 2014 09:55 AM
hien dinh

you can repair it. i think it take a some hour ! 

Nov 27, 2014 01:37 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Hien - inside the house this window is very high up and very heavy.  There are six different seals for double pane windows (that I know about) and if this window has one of them getting inside there to enter the seal would be quite a job!

Nov 27, 2014 07:27 PM