What Happened? Do You Know? Why Are You Blaming Me?

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What Happened? Do You Know? Why Are You Blaming Me? by Bill Roberts.

What happened to our business over the last ten years? Do you know

or just think you do? And why are you blaming me?

I routinely "follow" the blog posts of the mortgage professionals that I

know here on ActiveRain. I read their posts and ALL of the comments

that ensue.

Your Comments

As I read through the comment streams, I am amazed that there are so

many agents that don't understand what happened in our industry.


First, they don't know who the "Actors" were. They don't understand

what Greenspan did. They don't know about Lehman Bros making

everybody who wanted to be, a mortgage banker. They don't

understand the effect of Lehman creating derivatives from all the

mortgages they packaged. They don't understand the impact of

negative amortization loans.


And they don't understand the cause and effect of the rapid reduction

of interest rates on house prices. People "pay" for their homes one

month at a time. They aren't concerned with the Sales Price, only the

monthly payment. As interest rates fell, they could "afford" a higher

priced house. Well, the market reacted by making all houses higher

priced.


And they don't understand that "investors" jumped into this business

when they saw the rapid price increases, where they could buy and

then sell immediately and make thousands in profit.


And then they don't understand the effect of the rapid increase in

interest rates and why the rates went up. Thank Alan Greenspan for that.

The prices stopped going up and the flippers couldn't

make their immediate profits anymore. The "cost" of holding and

repairing became a bad business decision because they couldn't get

their money back, let alone a profit. So they "bailed out" of their houses, and the market.

The Rapid Market Change

They don't understand that when the flippers bailed out they started

an avalanche of price declines.

As time went by, the problem just got worse.

The Crisis

And then the neg am loans reset or recast. Thousands went into

default.

They couldn't re-finance because they didn't have any equity. They

were "upside down" or "under water". However you want to describe it,

it was a disaster for them and for all of us.

But the foreclosure process was "muddied up" because the mortgages

had been sliced up into derivative products.

The servicer put the mortgage into default, but the actual owner of the

mortgage had to pursue the foreclosure.

Then Lehman went bankrupt. It was hard to piece these mortgages

back together to determine just who owned what. So the foreclosure

process took a lot longer than it should have.

Why Are You Still Blaming Me?

As I read all the comments I was amazed that real estate agents and

even some mortgage professionals are still blaming the people that

simply wanted to own their own home for the crisis. They weren't the

problem.

Greenspan and Lehman were the problem. We are all the victims of

what they did.

As in any twelve-step program, the first step is to admit the problem,

but we still haven't been able to do that. The problem was not easy

loans for potential homeowners. These people just wanted a piece of

the American Dream.

The problem was Speculators, Bad Loan Products, and Derivatives.

Until we can admit the problem, we can't fix it. All these "fixes" by

Washington are not fixing the problem, they are just making it worse.


Respectfully submitted by Bill Roberts.

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Comments (74)

Katerina Gasset
Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Wellington, FL
Get It Done For Me Virtual Services

Everyone must become aware of the problem first, know the root cause, and aim for the solutions. This is a very mind-stirring post, Bill Roberts

Dec 07, 2014 02:42 PM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Hi Katerina, Thank you for stopping by. I know you are up to speed on this issue. We lived through it together.

Bill Roberts

Dec 07, 2014 10:42 PM
Kathy Streib
Room Service Home Staging - Delray Beach, FL
Home Stager - Palm Beach County,FL -561-914-6224

Bill- a well deserved feature!  And a very heady topic.

Dec 13, 2014 10:16 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Kathy, I hope you liked it and got something out of it.

Bill Roberts

Dec 13, 2014 11:48 PM
Ricki Eichler McCallum
CastNet Realty - Corpus Christi, TX
Broker,GRI,ABR, e-Pro, TAHS

Hi Bill,  Excellent blog,  thanks for taking the time to explain it in detail.  So many do not understand what happened and that is reason to be alarmed because it can happen again.  It's the little guy that always gets hurt the worst.

Dec 18, 2014 10:24 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Hi Ricki, It's nice to see you here.

Yes, the little guy does get hurt everytime they do something like this. There seems to be no end to the schemes. But we, as Real Estate Professionals, have a duty to understand this one.

Bill Roberts

Dec 18, 2014 10:19 PM
Katerina Gasset
Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Wellington, FL
Get It Done For Me Virtual Services

Good points. Now that we know the root cause of the problem, the next thing we need to look at are the steps towards the solution. We are part of the solution. What can we do to help solve the issue?

Dec 23, 2014 08:57 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Hi Katerina, Merry Christmas. I hope you and your family are all fine.

I think that the solution is to provide easy financing to ALL who want a house to live in and very difficult loans for investors. It is all about homeowners.

Also, we need to make sure that negative amortization loans never come back.

Bill Roberts

BTW I appreciate your coming back because it gave me an opportunity to re-read all the comments. Thank you.

Dec 23, 2014 11:10 PM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

All I know is --- we DON'T want that to happen again.  Wishing the lending regulations would be less stringent for our clients, but maybe that is OK too!  

Dec 27, 2014 02:17 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

No Joan, It is not OK. The wrong people are being punished.

Bill Roberts

Dec 27, 2014 11:09 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH Real Estate - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Bill, I think most of us are way past the blame game.  When we put a lender on our list, it's because they know how to make the transaction work. 

Jan 04, 2015 01:18 PM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Hi Pat, That is a very pragmatic view, unfortunately many are still blaming the poor people that simply wanted a house to live in, not something to "flip" and become instantly wealthy.

Have a Happy and Prosperous New Year.

Bill Roberts

Jan 04, 2015 11:04 PM
Anna Hatridge
R Gilliam Real Estate LLC - Farmington, MO
Missouri Realtor with R Gilliam Real Estate LLC

Ok Bill you commented on Joan Cox remark about maybe it is okay to loosen up the lending a little bit.  Are you saying that there is no way to make the market healthy and beneficial to home buyers as well as investors?  You have detailed what you think the cause was for the current market, now will you share a post with what you think the cure is for a healthy market.

Jan 06, 2015 09:35 PM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

OK Anna, I have definite ideas. Unfortunately the political climate is that it is the borrowers fault, not the people that I identified. Until that changes a new and healthy lending system is not possible.

Bill Roberts

Jan 06, 2015 10:36 PM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

Bill

Thanks for sharing your insight . . .  . you bring up some very good points.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Jan 16, 2015 10:35 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Lou, Thank you for visiting. And good luck and happiness to you as well.

Bill Roberts

Jan 16, 2015 11:04 PM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams Fox Cities - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Thank you for sharing this summary of the problem Bill, I enjoyed reading and learning from your post and from the many comments and your responses to them.

You know much more about this than I, hopefully we will see your face on capital hill forging a solution before it happens again.

Thanks

Bob

Feb 01, 2015 09:31 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Bob, Thank you for your kind words. My job, as I see it, is to point out the problem and hopefully somebody that is more politically astute than me can run with it.

Bill Roberts

Feb 02, 2015 02:16 AM
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • Green • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I'm not sure, we can fix it that easily. The whole system is designed for rich to be richer and for poor to stay poor. But i absolutely agree, that blaming anyone is useless. We just need to do our best.

Feb 16, 2015 04:03 PM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Hi Inna, Well, we have to blame the right people. And "they" have to pay. It seems, with the exception of Lehman Bros, that the bad guys just got richer by all the "help" from the Fed and and the government.

And all the rules they made in response to the melt down have targeted the wrong people.

Good luck. Thanks for stopping by.

Bill Roberts

Feb 16, 2015 10:16 PM

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