Waiting Periods Following Bankruptcy, Part II

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Mortgage and Lending with Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 NMLS #1012303

The waiting periods following bankruptcy to apply for a mortgage loan from either FHA, USDA/RD, or VA, are somewhat different than those for conventional loans sold to or insured by FNMA.  Yesterday's blog post addressed the waiting periods imposed by FNMA.  An outline of the waiting bankruptcy2periods for FHA, USDA/RD and VA loan applications after bankruptcy will show that these programs are a bit more in line with one another than FNMA.  As with all waiting periods, they may be extended by individual lenders or investors, but they cannot be shortened.

FHA imposes a minimum two year waiting period following a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, which commences on the date of the debtor's discharge.  The guidelines do not address a Chapter 7 proceeding that might be dismissed, although logic would seem to dictate that the dismissal of a Chapter 7 proceeding would result in a non-bankruptcy situation.  The debtor's credit record however, would no doubt be in shambles.  In addition to the waiting period, the debtor will be required to submit a complete explanation for the bankruptcy, have established a good credit history following the bankruptcy, and must meet all other FHA underwriting guidelines.

For a Chapter 13 proceeding, FHA will allow a debtor to apply for a mortgage loan while still in a Chapter 13 proceeding if: (1) the debtors has been in the proceeding for at least a year; (2) the debtor has made all payments due under the Chapter 13 plan within the prior 12 months and payments are verified; (3) the debtor obtains the bankruptcy trustee's approval for the mortgage loan; (4) the debtor submits a detailed written explanation of the reason for the bankruptcy proceeding; and (5) the debtor has good credit and a satisfactory employment history.  If a debtor has gone through a Chapter 13 proceeding and has completed the payment plan and received a discharge, that debtor under FHA guidelines, must wait two years before submitting an application, in addition to complying with the other requirements listed above.  That to me seems a bit odd.  Why treat someone who has completed a Chapter 13 Plan more harshly than someone who is under a Chapter 13 Plan but has not yet completed the Plan?

Under the USDA/RD guidelines, a debtor who has been discharged from a Chapter 7 proceeding must wait three years after discharge before applying for a mortgage with the USDA.  A debtor who is discharged from a Chapter 13 proceeding must only wait twelve months after discharge to be eligible to apply for a mortgage loan as long as all payments in the Chapter 13 plan were made on time.  The USDA does not address the situation of someone who is still in a Chapter 13 plan like the FHA does.

The VA guidelines require a waiting period of two years for a debtor who is discharged from a Chapter 7 proceeding.  Similar to FHA guidelines, the debtor must also submit a full explanation for the bankruptcy, must have re-established good credit, have good job stability, and must otherwise qualify financially under standard VA guidelines.  For a debtor in a Chapter 13 proceeding, the VA will consider a debtor who is still paying on the Chapter 13 plan if payments are made on time and verified for at least 12 months.  The bankruptcy trustee's approval must be obtained, the debtor must have good credit, job stability, and otherwise qualify financially under standard VA guidelines.

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Comments (22)

Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Randy.  These explanations are almost as complicated as our tax code.

Dec 30, 2014 08:03 PM
Randy Kirsch
Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 - Manchester, CT
(NMLS# 1012303) Your Dedicated Mortgage Consultant

Yes I found that to be a bit strange George Souto that someone still in Chapter 13 can get a new mortgage faster than someone who has completed the Chapter 13 plan.

Thanks for sharing.  Best wishes for a Happy and successful New Year!

Dec 30, 2014 10:17 PM
Randy Kirsch
Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 - Manchester, CT
(NMLS# 1012303) Your Dedicated Mortgage Consultant

There is a very important idea implied in your comment Joe Petrowsky and that is that someone who has gone through bankruptcy start to rehab their credit as soon as possible for a number of reasons, not just getting a mortgage loan.

Thanks for sharing.  Best wishes for a Happy and successful New Year!

Dec 30, 2014 10:19 PM
Randy Kirsch
Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 - Manchester, CT
(NMLS# 1012303) Your Dedicated Mortgage Consultant

It is confusing Conrad Allen especially when added to George's posts about waiting periods after foreclosures and short sales, but you need to be aware so that you are not spending a lot of time prematurely with a potential home buyer.

Thanks for sharing.  Best wishes for a Happy and successful New Year!

 

Dec 30, 2014 10:22 PM
Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

This is good information for prospective mortgage borrowers and their agents.

Happy New Year!

Dec 31, 2014 12:06 AM
Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Randy Kirsch - I scheduled your first part for a re-blog. But the re-blog feature is not available for part 2.

Dec 31, 2014 12:14 AM
Randy Kirsch
Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 - Manchester, CT
(NMLS# 1012303) Your Dedicated Mortgage Consultant

Thanks very much Roy Kelley   Not sure why part II cannot be reblogged.  Prior to the re-formatting, the reblog box was checked by default, not sure if that is the case now and I may have missed it.

Make it a great day!

Dec 31, 2014 12:56 AM
Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Randy Kirsch - Sometimes, you have to go back and check the box again to allow re-blogs. This is a common problem that needs to be fixed.

 

Dec 31, 2014 01:00 AM
Randy Kirsch
Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 - Manchester, CT
(NMLS# 1012303) Your Dedicated Mortgage Consultant

I did go back and check the box Roy Kelley but the re-blog button is not showing up after 2 tries. Sorry.

Dec 31, 2014 02:05 AM
Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Randy Kirsch - You did fix it! The re-blog option is now available and I will schedule a January re-blog.

Dec 31, 2014 02:08 AM
Randy Kirsch
Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 - Manchester, CT
(NMLS# 1012303) Your Dedicated Mortgage Consultant

Well, I am happy to hear that Roy Kelley as it does not show up on my end.  Just posted another blog and made sure the box was checked, but it did not show up on that blog either, at least on my end.  I guess I cannot re-blog my own blogs!

Happy New Year to you and yours Roy!!!

Dec 31, 2014 03:02 AM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

It's similar to what the Buddha says about everything having a season. This too shall pass.

Dec 31, 2014 03:20 PM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

Randy, it doesn't show up on my end either all that much--good information regardless.

Dec 31, 2014 03:23 PM
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Yes, once you get into debt, it can be very challenging to get out, and then once you do, it can take a while to fully get back on your feet. Thx for the great explanation, and let's hope that fewer need this info in the future.

Dec 31, 2014 07:33 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Thank you for the information. I will share it with others.

Dec 31, 2014 10:13 PM
Randy Kirsch
Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 - Manchester, CT
(NMLS# 1012303) Your Dedicated Mortgage Consultant

I do hope that bankruptcies will slow down Laura Cerrano and that the season of the debt ridden individuals will soon come to an end.  Unfortunately, even in good economic times, there are people who just don't get it and are unable to manage their finances and control their spending.

Thanks for sharing.  Happy New Year and make it a great day!

Dec 31, 2014 10:36 PM
Randy Kirsch
Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 - Manchester, CT
(NMLS# 1012303) Your Dedicated Mortgage Consultant

It can be a long road back to recovery from economic turmoil in one's life and the lenders are hesitant to jump in right after a bankruptcy proceeding is completed.  They want to make sure that a person has learned to be more responsible I guess Debbie Gartner 

Thanks for sharing.  Happy New Year.  Make it a great day!

Dec 31, 2014 10:39 PM
Randy Kirsch
Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 - Manchester, CT
(NMLS# 1012303) Your Dedicated Mortgage Consultant

Thanks for taking the time to read the posting Gita Bantwal I appreciate it

Happy New Year.  Make it a great day!

Dec 31, 2014 10:44 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Randy Kirsch never understood the intricacies of this topic - but yes, valid question:

Why treat someone who has completed a Chapter 13 Plan more harshly than someone who is under a Chapter 13 Plan but has not yet completed the Plan?

Jan 01, 2015 02:30 PM
Randy Kirsch
Right Trac Financial Group, Inc., NMLS# 2709 - Manchester, CT
(NMLS# 1012303) Your Dedicated Mortgage Consultant

This just does not make sense to me at all Praful Thakkar and if anything, it should be just the opposite from what the guidelines are.

Thanks for sharing.  Make it a great day!

Jan 01, 2015 09:03 PM

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