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No "As Is" in Colorado

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Real Estate Agent with Jennifer Allan, Inc.

I attended a Commission Update Course earlier this week taught by Oliver Frascona - world famous real estate frasconaattorney who happens to live just up the street from me (okay, 40 miles away). The topics covered in the course were dull as dirt, but Mr. Frascona had us all on the edge of our chairs the entire four hours. He's the speaker I aspire to be.

But anyway, among the many tidbits and factoids I learned during the course; this one seemed blog-worthy, especially considering the number of bank-owned properties for sale these days.

There is no such thing as marketing a property "as is" in Colorado. Oh, sure, a seller can refuse to make repairs to a property and even advertise that intent, but what he or she can't do is not disclose known defects.

I've often seen bank-owned or otherwise non-owner-occupied properties either refuse to provide a Sellers Property Disclosure (SPD) or simply provide one with a big X across every page, implying that the seller has no knowledge of the condition of the property. If this is the case - that the seller truly don't know nuthin' ‘bout the place, then that's fine. The Colorado contract does not require that the seller complete the Real Estate Commission's SPD.

But if the seller, whoever that may be, has knowledge of a latent defect (defined by Mr. Frascona as "that which cannot be discovered upon a reasonable inspection of the property"), it must be disclosed. It's not legal here in Colorado to feign ignorance just ‘cause the seller never occupied the property.

To those of us raised in the world of Colorado real estate, this may seem kinda obvious. Of course you have to disclose! But it ain't necessarily so elsewhere. A few years ago I purchased three properties in Alabama which is a Buyer Beware state. At the time, I asked my agent for the Sellers Property Disclosure - and got a blank look in return. Apparently, sellers in Alabama are under no obligation to provide a written disclosure of defects, although I read somewhere that they ARE s'posed to disclose them, somehow. But as far as I can tell, it doesn't happen (one of the homes I purchased had a year's worth of latent defects that I spent thousands repairing and was told by my agent I had no recourse).

But I digress. If you're a real estate agent listing a home in Colorado and your seller doesn't want to complete the SPD, you need to make sure he understands his disclosure obligations.

And, as a side note, if you're working with a buyer, know that just because a property is advertised as "as is" doesn't prevent your buyer from inspecting it and making objections or even terminating the contract under his inspection rights. (This seems obvious, but I can't tell you how many rookie agents I've talked to who think that "as is" means that the buyer has to abdicate his inspection rights).

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Doreen McPherson
Homesmart ~ Scottsdale ~ Tempe - Tempe, AZ
Phoenix Arizona Real Estate ~
Jennifer, These listings are very common here in Phoenix right now and I am surprise that an agent would think 'as is' means no inspection.  But, I read a local post/blog yesterday on the exact same subject, so, it must be a wide spread misconception.  The issue I have run into here is the 'bank addendum' cutting back on the inspection period.  I don't like that at all. 
Apr 11, 2008 12:56 AM
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

I inspect a lot of "AS IS" properties here in TN. Most of them are a real mess. That is why they are being sold as is. Makes for a long day.

Apr 11, 2008 01:00 AM
Sean Allen
International Financing Solutions - Fort Myers, FL
International Financing Solutions

Hey Jennifer, Very interesting but it does make sense. I had a seller down here in Florida tying to refuse to fill out a discloser because the property was purchased a few months before and she didn't know anything about the house, but fact is she was still required to provide one....so she did.

Great blog,

Sean Allen

Apr 11, 2008 01:17 AM
Loreena and Michael Yeo
3:16 team REALTY ~ Locally-owned Prosper TX Real Estate Co. - Prosper, TX
Real Estate Agents
I see that alot down here too and yes, it's the same way here in Texas. But agents just keep writing them like that.
Apr 11, 2008 04:11 AM
Nancy Shakeshaft-Slack
Prudential Professional Realtors - Colorado Springs, CO
Maybe, we need to do a better job of educating the banks and relo companies on the  law here in CO...might not do much good (as they'll probably still do things the way they want to), but think how much time and aggravation would it save us all. 
Apr 13, 2008 03:50 AM
Suellyn Godino
Prudential Steamboat Realty - Steamboat Springs, CO
GRI, CDPE, Pres. SS Board

Jennifer,

I too attended that course up here in Steamboat, and attend every class when Oliver speaks.  He is one sharp guy...always a fountain of info and entertainment too.  Great post!

Apr 13, 2008 10:55 AM
Dena Stevens
Rocky Mountain Realty - Canon City, CO
Putting The Real Into Realtor Since 2004
Are you referring to "the republic of Boulder?"  I love Oliver, but who doesn't? But people do not acknowledge that we don't do "as is" here in Colorado.
Apr 14, 2008 12:14 PM
Jennifer Allan
Jennifer Allan, Inc. - Denver, CO

Suellyn - I worked in Steamboat for a year... I was one of the very first purchasers (the first?) of the Longview development. I sure wish I'd held onto them (I bought two and flipped them right away).

Dena - Yep, Boulder.

Nancy - from what I hear, the banks don't care much 'bout our laws and customs... you really have to wonder how badly they want to offload their properties!

Loreena - Good thing WE know what we're doing, huh?

Apr 14, 2008 12:27 PM
Jon Miller
United Country-Marshland Realty - Beaufort, SC
I agree with the premise that there should be no "AS IS" sales but I can see when a bank takes a repo that there is now way the bank will know what condition the property is in.  They should still fill out a property disclosure indicating that they have no knowledge of the condition of the property.  It's a CYA measure I'm sure, but the laws are different in each state.  To me "As Is" means that the owner refuses to make any repairs to the property.
Apr 14, 2008 12:57 PM
Rob Proctor
At Home Real Estate Company - Loveland, CO
GRI ePro
I think banks could follow the lead of HUD. When HUD takes over a property, they have it inspected and make the report available to the public. It's still not perfect. Buyers still need to do follow-up inspection.  At least they are trying.
Apr 16, 2008 08:40 AM
Bob Schenkenberger
Colorado Realty Professionals - Greenwood Village, CO
Denver Real Estate

I always laugh when told it's "as is"  Clients walking away from a contract seems to change a seller's "as is" mind.  So long as there is an inspection contingency with the option for the buyer to bail, there will never be an "as is" contract.  Thanks for the post!

Now if you can grow the 'stache like Oliver, you'll be one step closer to presenting like him.

Apr 16, 2008 03:37 PM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA
Legally I am told it is the same in Georgia!  That known defects, or reports have to be furnished!
Apr 16, 2008 05:36 PM
Jennifer Allan-Hagedorn
Sell with Soul - Pensacola Beach, FL
Author of Sell with Soul

Bob - So THAT'S what I've been missing! Thanks for the tip!

Jim - in Georgia - if a seller has a home inspection prior to listing, does the report have to be provided to buyers?

Rob - good point

 

Apr 16, 2008 10:44 PM
Chris Gempeler
Breckenridge Mountain Top Realtors - Breckenridge, CO
Mountain Top Realtors

Jennifer,  I have gone through some of the same things with SPD's. Fortunately in Summit County we don't deal with as many banks.  I love Olivers classes he makes CE classes much more fun and interesting.  He always has a great story to go with his points.   I hear you have some great opportunities down there in Denver. Thanks for the post!

MTR Chris 

Apr 22, 2008 05:36 AM
Paul Hill
the Property Owner's Network & IREBCO - Boulder, CO

A legal AS IS listing in Colorado is one where the seller discloses all known defects on the Property Disclosure, and the Offer has the usual Inspection Contingency.  All the Seller is saying is "Look, I don't want to spend all the money to fix this place up in this lousy market, as it still might not sell!  So here's everything I know that needs repair/replacement, and I even have written estimates.  Just don't try and back out of our offer over a condition that I already disclosed and you already knew about before you made the offer and had the inspection done.  And don't expect me to fix or replace it, not at the price I've already discounted.  If you discover something else I didn't know about, that's different.  We'll deal with that defect just like any other deal..."

PAUL HILL

Apr 23, 2008 05:41 PM
Susanna Haynie
CO-RE Group, LLC -Real estate sales and services - Colorado Springs, CO
Colorado Springs Realtor GRI CNE MCNE ePro MRP

Jennifer,

I am glad that we are an 'as is' but with inspection contigency state. I can't even imagine it being any different than that. Don't you love Oliver? He is great, just finished the first day of his CNE class. very much looking forward to tomorrow!

 

Apr 25, 2012 11:02 AM
Anonymous
Paul Hill

One other interesting factoid about disclosure in Colorado:  an owner or broker does not have to disclose any event or condition that may have had a negative psychological impact on a property, even if he/she has knowledge of it.  Ya know, things like murders, suicides, ghosts.  Stuff like that...

Apr 26, 2012 07:53 AM
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