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For the horse people...Do you know about Fly Predators??

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I just ordered a season of fly predators for control of what was a bad problem last year...I had more flies last year than I care to remember.  You could not sit outside last summer as the fly count was so severe so...I've been told that Fly Predators work really well.

 Here is what they say about them:

Fly Predators are the original method of fly control. They are nature's own enemy of all common manure and rotting organic matter breeding pest flies, including the common house fly, horn fly, biting stable fly and lesser house fly.

In the natural environment Fly Predators serve as a major check of pest fly populations by destroying the next generation of flies in their immature pupa (cocoon) stage. Most locations likely have some of the species in Fly Predators already, but unless supplemented regularly, they cannot provide the nearly total fly suppression people prefer.

Fly Predators are tiny, completely biteless and stingless. They never become a pest themselves. After they've emerged, their single minded pursuit is to reproduce by finding pest fly pupa. Because of their small size and the fact they live their entire life cycle on or near manure (where the pest fly pupae are typically found), Fly Predators go virtually unnoticed.

Sounds good to me, no pesticides and no flies, a win win!

Does anyone have any experience with these critters?

Comments (9)

Sara Homan
Coldwell Banker Ellison Realty 352-209-4044 - Ocala, FL
Realtor, Homes, Farms & 55+

Patrice,

 That sounds very good to me!  I cannot stand those miserable little creatures.  I lived on a farm in Roxbury and was absolutely grossed out by them.  You are getting ready for the May Flys too which bite like skeeters!

Apr 16, 2008 08:06 AM
Tammy Carpenter
Home Team Realty, llc - Del City, OK
I've never heard of them.  Where did you order them from?
Apr 16, 2008 09:17 AM
Alex Mordas
EarthSTEPS - Tallahassee, FL
Green Building Consultant

Sounds like a pretty standard "biocontrol" schtick... Often times using forms of "biocontrol" such as this can be quite effective.

The main issues to be aware of when committing to this type of problem-organism control is to check to make sure that you are using a reputable company with some form of independent verification of the organisms that they are providing...

The absolutely last thing that you want, is to use some fly-by-the-night company that is going to sell you a non-native, GMO, and/or highly invasive pest.

More than likely what the company means by "fly-predator" is a predatory wasp (but there are a few other possibilities)... these are often quite teeny, and it is correct, they will never bite or sting or be a pest to you... However, you simply do not want to bring an ecologically harmful organism into the area simply to improve your own comfort - long-term, the effects could be disastrous.

The other important things to ask are the following:

1) what family of fly?

2) what genus of fly?

3) what species of fly?

4) what is the predator?

5) is it a specialist or generalist?

6) if specialist, is it a specialist on this species, genus, or family of flies?

7) if generalist, how does it locate flies?  even generalists may not necessarily be appropriate for your problem, depending on the species of fly pests, and the local larval host or substrate..!?!

8) If specialist, is it regionally appropriate, or is it only a specialist on this family/genus/species in a specific (possibly different) locality..?

If they cannot answer ALL of these questions (and more) then I would not recommend working with them as they are identifying themselves as an irresponsible company and should not be allowed to operate in the trade of organisms (Also, make sure that all CORRECT permitting exists for the transport, possession and sale of the "fly predators" that they utilize). 

I hope this helps, 

Apr 16, 2008 11:25 AM
Debi Ernst
St. Charles County, Missouri - Prudential Alliance Realtors - O'Fallon, MO
GRI, e-PRO, Broker/Sales Associate
I believe the stable I keep my horse at uses them.  I think they work well, and I think the stable owner likes them...Hope this helps!  :)
Apr 17, 2008 06:57 AM
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Patrice~

Although the idea sounds really good...you seem to be on the right track in asking to get more INFO. I noticed' Alex' response and decided to look into this a little more. Sure appreciate any news we find out!

Apr 18, 2008 07:17 AM
Debra Passero
Weichert Realtors - Ruffino Real Estate - Milford, PA

I have used fly predators for 4 years now.  I love them.  Last year while everyone was battling many fly species - I was light to fairly none at my barn. 

Remember you have to also clean the barn area and stalls as to not attract what the predators did not get.

 

 

May 19, 2008 07:50 AM
Anne Clark
Metro Referrals - Gainesville, VA

I have heard that the fly predators work well...let us know later on in the summer if your fly population is down. My barn uses them and has just received this years supply.

May 21, 2008 06:39 AM
Tricia Jumonville
Bradfield Properties - Georgetown, TX
Texas REALTOR , Agent With Horse Sense

My fly predators are a lot larger than the standard ones you get in the mail.  They also cluck and produce eggs! 

I've thought about using the fly predators that are wasps, but as long as I have the free-range hens, I rarely have more than a fly or two in a year - and those come from the cows next door.  But if I didn't have the chickens, I'd certainly try these. 

 

May 28, 2008 04:52 AM
Sabrina Kelley
ERA Herman Group Real Estate - Woodland Park, CO
Woodland Park Colorado Mountain Homes and Land

I worry about bringing in things which aren't present naturally. I would like an update on the success of anyone who is bringing them in to keep other pests down for the summer.

Fly control tips are the best for equine lovers.

May 28, 2008 07:52 AM