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Good Job HUD (Told ya So!)

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Good Job HUD (Told ya So!)

 

 

     Back in 2014, I was pretty hard on HUD in regard to the FHA loan program.  Annual PMI premiums at the time were 1.35% (a ripoff) and I felt it necessary to voice my opinion on the topic more than a few times.  In FHA mortgagesOctober, I wrote a mathematically driven blog about the cost of FHA loans and the correlation of loan volume in the program (you can read it here if you so choose).  The gist is I thought FHA reducing the cost of their loan program for borrowers would in turn attract more borrowers, and more profits for HUD - an obvious win-win in my mind.

 

 

     HUD's argument for higher fees was that they needed more money.  As every good businessperson knows, though, there's more than one way to skin that cat.  Volume can oftentimes more than compensate for cost, and I thought FHA was a prime example.

 

 

     Well the numbers are in.  In an article I recently read, it was cited that 686,800 loan applications were submitted February thru May of this year versus 346,600 for the same time last year.  For the sake of argument, let's say the numbers doubled (close enough?).  On a $200,000 loan, a borrower would pay $1700/year under the current PMI premiums VS $2700 based on the premiums a year ago.  HUD is losing quite a bit on each deal, but in doubling the volume HUD's annual profits should be up in the ballpark of 20%.  So while I like to rip HUD a new one when I think they get it wrong, I want to acknowledge that they made the right move, and it's having real impacts. 

 

 

     Our economy is still fragile, with the housing industry playing a huge role in our recovery.  I thought FHA lowering their premiums would have an impact on refinances, but more importantly, would bring more first time buyers to market, and thankfully it's played out that way exactly.  Home purchase applications using FHA financing are up nicely, and the program is once again helping people enter the housing market.

 

 

     If estimates pan out, HUD should endorse 50% MORE than their most recent projections for the amount of loan volume they endorse (read: 50% more profit for them, too), and as a bonus, FHA's serious delinquencies have fallen to their lowest level since 2008 (the start of the foreclosure crisis), and foreclosure rates are the lowest since 2009 (when those 2008 delinquencies were finally foreclosed).

 

 

     What's this all mean?  Well, it may seem like in giving an inch I want a yard, but I think as profits increase and delinquency falls, HUD can and should start to look at getting back to it's core goal of increasing access to home financing for low to moderate income borrowers.  In the not-so-distant past, annual PMI costs were just .55% (.3 lower than current levels) of a borrowers loan amount, and eventually it would be a good idea for HUD to return to those levels, bringing the product back to it's place as one of the most affordable mortgage options available.  This would spur refinance activity (always an economy booster) and grant even greater access to home ownership for buyers.  If HUD can focus on enforcing quality underwriting standards, all of these improvements should be able to continue.

 

 

     So with that, GREAT JOB HUD.  The results are in, and the results are good - now let's keep working on improving our housing market by continuing in the same direction.

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Comments(45)

Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

John, I have another take on this. I think that the increased costs were (are) a way to limit the pool of available buyers.

Bill Roberts

Aug 02, 2015 02:06 AM
John Meussner
Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, MD, MN, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI - Fair Oaks, CA
#MortgageMadeEasy Fair Oaks, CA 484-680-4852

Laura - thank you much, appreciate you stopping by

 

Joe - indeed, I'm hoping they put an end to the G fees that have hiked rates over the past few years.  Thanks for the comment

 

Liz and Bill Spear that's crazy, I wonder why a condo complex would want to limit it's potential by doing that, FHA unnecessarily gets a bad rep.

 

Wayne and Jean Marie Zuhl thank you, I appreciate that!

 

Jeff Dowler CRS indeed, sometimes it does, especially when it comes to HUD/the housing authorities...there's a real lack of common sense there sometimes.

 

Bill - that'd be an interesting discussion, will we see a blog post?

Aug 02, 2015 04:00 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

John I completely agree.  HUD needs to bring the MI back down to the .55 factor or at least make the .55 MI factor available for down payment loans of 5% or higher.

Aug 02, 2015 08:42 AM
John Meussner
Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, MD, MN, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI - Fair Oaks, CA
#MortgageMadeEasy Fair Oaks, CA 484-680-4852

George - I like either idea, just needs to get cheaper to match the risk profile for the product.  Files need to be underwritten well, and priced accordingly. 

 

Now the GSE's need to follow suit and cut back on these LLPA's and Gfee rate TAXES.

Aug 02, 2015 08:46 AM
Nicole Doty - Gilbert Real Estate Expert
Zion Realty - Gilbert, AZ
Broker/Owner of Zion Realty ZionRealtyAZ.com

Fantastic information here John. I'm a numbers and facts type of person. Show me the stats and you did! The housing market, it seems, is one of the only positives in the economy right now and even that seems to still be uneasy in a lot of markets!

Aug 02, 2015 09:06 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

John Meussner Yes, Ive written a series of posts on this subject.

See the latest:Houston We Have A Problem

Please read the whole series. I would like your input.

Thank you.

Bill Roberts

Aug 03, 2015 01:47 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

One explanation I recall about 3-4 years to justify higher MIP was to use the excess money to help fund Obamacare..

Aug 03, 2015 01:59 AM
John Meussner
Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, MD, MN, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI - Fair Oaks, CA
#MortgageMadeEasy Fair Oaks, CA 484-680-4852

Nicole - thanks for stopping by, and housing is helping, but even that sector is dragging compared to where we need it. 

 

Bill - good insight, thanks for sharing!

 

Lenn - they've said it was to restore HUD's reserve fund (which was eradicated during the housing crisis), but now that reserves are back on track, we need costs to come back down to earth - and we need the government to STOP looking at the housing sector as a piggybank.

Aug 03, 2015 04:46 AM
Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

John, my concern is that excess "affordability" can pave the way for future foreclosures and all the accompanying economic chaos.

Aug 03, 2015 10:23 AM
John Meussner
Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, MD, MN, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI - Fair Oaks, CA
#MortgageMadeEasy Fair Oaks, CA 484-680-4852

Olga Simoncelli only if underwriting standards loosen up again.  As long as underwriting remains pretty strict and "creative" financing doesn't start popping up, affordability will be a good thing.  I think the entry level market needs some help.

Aug 03, 2015 10:30 AM
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

And here all this time I thought they were trying to help the conventional mortgage market by sending clients their way...

Aug 03, 2015 11:36 AM
John Meussner
Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, MD, MN, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI - Fair Oaks, CA
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Haha Evelyn Johnston I think they just ended up hurting the market, but conventional loans certainly did get a lot of interest for a while!

Aug 03, 2015 11:40 AM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Great post John!  Agreed that HUD did the right thing. Sorta like taxes, reduce taxes and watch the economy return.  It's a boost to those buyers buying homes and using FHA financing and reaping the savings! 

Aug 03, 2015 01:37 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

John - The mortgage insurance for FHA was getting crazy for awhile.  I didn't realize how much the numbers increased when it came down.

Aug 03, 2015 04:19 PM
ReadySetLoan Team
ReadySetLoan Condo Team LLC - South Windsor, CT
Residential, Commercial & Condo Financing Experts

Excellent article, John.  I am bookmarking this because the most common objective to FHA condo approval is ignorance about the FHA program.  Serious delinquency at its "lowest level since 2008" is a huge selling point and a great counter to not wanting "those buyers" moving in to the condominium.  Thank you!

Aug 04, 2015 02:08 AM
Brad Lauritzen
Santiago Financial, Inc. - Riverside, CA
Manufactured & Mobile Home Lending

I remember you article last year and thought it spot on.....fortunately so did HUD!

Aug 04, 2015 06:31 AM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

John

Many of the people who are making the  decisions on mortgages and the costs involved in getting a mortgage are doing it in a vacuum . . . . They do not have the real life experience in the mortgage market . . . . or do they understand how their decisions effect home sales . . . . and the economy.

Great post.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Aug 04, 2015 08:43 AM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

Thanks for this update and your perspective.  I  appreciate your keeping the Active Rain family informed.

Aug 04, 2015 01:43 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Yes, John Meussner Good news for many of us. Being profitable is always good - now how it is done is important. Making $10 from 10 people or $1 for 100 people?

Finally, we see right things happening - and hope this continues.

(Not so good news is, I had to report spam to almost 20 comments!)

Aug 07, 2015 02:32 PM
Margaret Woda
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc. - Crofton, MD
Maryland Real Estate & Military Relocation

When you're right, you're right! Always helpful to learn some of the back story to areas of companion industries, because it really helps us to understand our own business.

Aug 08, 2015 07:01 AM