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The HouseKat says "Hogwash" to recent article about closing costs

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with eXp Commercial, Referral Divison RRE-BRO-LIC-75443

This past Sunday, there was an article in our Sunday paper which was entitled "As closing costs drop, you'd better shop around." It was written by Bankrate.com, and it basically stated the cost a borrower needs in order to close has dropped by 7% in 2015 over 2014. When I read the title, I thought something along the lines of, "Really? I could swear my clients are paying more!"

 

The article went on to state that Bankrate requested estimates from various locations, asking for the closing costs for a $200K mortgage for a single family home for a borrower with 20% to put down and excellent credit.

 

My next thought was, "hmmm, that's not an average buyer in my area."  Most people who take out a $200K mortgage are first time home buyers who are buying a home that is priced just slightly more than that; most do not have 20% to put down, and I would dare say the majority have good credit, but not excellent.  Putting that aside, I read the rest.

 

The article's bottom line was that lender origination fees plus inspection and appraisal costs are now approximately $1,847, a reduction over 2014. However, the article continues, that does not include variable costs that could add another $2,500 to $3,000 to your closing costs depending on where you live. And those variable costs include homeowners insurance, discount points, title insurance, taxes and other costs.

 

The HouseKat says, "Hogwash!" to the variable costs and therefore total costs of a closing. While the origination fees, inspection and appraisal may indeed be somewhere around $1,847, that is such a small part of the total costs that it is really irrelevant to the big picture. Stating that costs for closings are going down, and then using only those three fees to demonstrate the point, while ignoring the total bill simply does not help buyers. The article provides an unrealistic assessment for people living in Orange County NY.  The following is a more realistic overview based on real purchases in the area:

 

Origination, inspection, appraisal:  $1,847 (*giving them the benefit of doubt!)

 

Taxes:  The average property tax bill for homes sold in July 2015 in Monroe, NY was $11,459. One of the buyer costs at closing are prorated taxes, so depending upon what time of year a buyer closes, they could owe up to the entire year's tax amount. 

 

Interest charges: The article did not include mortgage interest in their estimate, so I am assuming they were not included. Depending upon when during the month the closing occurs, the buyer may need to pay mortgage interest charges in advance. Based on a real example, I'm going to use $550 as an estimate.

 

Mortgage Insurance: Depending upon the type of loan and the amount of downpayment, mortgage insurance payment may be required. Since many borrowers put down less than 20%, this is often a significant closing cost. A recent buyer had fees in this category of $4475. 

 

Homeowners Insurance:  Another required insurance that adds to the total bill as well. This is prorated so a $1000 annual insurance bill might require a $300 payment at closing.

 

Title Fees: Buyers in our area usually pay for the title insurance and fees. This could be another $3,000.

 

Recording fees:  These are fees to record the sale with the county/town. I've seen $350 charged for this fee. 

 

Other fees: There could also be charges for flood certification, surveys, courier fees and other miscellaneous expenses.

 

Add it up:  In order to purchase a home in the Orange County NY area, a buyer could need much more than the ~$5,000 listed in the above mentioned article. In fact, depending on the house being purchased, the terms, and mortgage being used, a buyer could need upwards of $15-20,000 for a closing.

 

Do not be afraid! This is not an post that is intended to scare buyers away from purchasing! Every home purchase is different and the above is just one example. What I do agree with is that there are many different mortgage products available, and a home buyer should meet with a mortgage professional before home searching to find the best product for them. And if a buyer does not have money for both the down payment required for their mortgage product and the full closing costs, there are other options that might be available to them, such as a seller concession. So my suggestion to future home buyers is to save as much money as you possibly can, so you will be able to handle the down payment, closing costs, and still have some money for life. Then meet with an excellent mortgage professional to get preapproved, and then call me to look for the right home!

 

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Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

I'm with you, I don't see a drop in closing costs by a long shot. 

Aug 31, 2015 11:54 PM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

it's really easy to see a drop in closing costs, if you just leave a bunch of closing costs off the list.  ;-/

Sep 01, 2015 12:09 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

They would have presented a more accurate picture by discussing the various types of closing costs a buyer must pay than using sensational headlines to draw eyeballs. Nobody said bankrate.com are agents or understand the business. They are just a website selling advertising. They are not journalists, either.

Sep 01, 2015 02:01 AM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

Shirley - We do!!! (Am I right?  :-) )

Alan - No it does not!

Jeff - I find the differences interesting also. 

Sandy/Norm - And reader usually don't know what is true or not.

Karen - Not at all!

Alan - Well, that is true!

Elizabeth - Unfortunately, people see "bankrate" and think they must know what they are talking about.!

Sep 01, 2015 02:16 AM
John Mosier
Realty ONE Group Mountain Desert - Prescott, AZ
Prescott's Patriot Agent 928 533-8142

A HUGE industry has sprung up trying to profit from the work of the "REAL Real Estate Industry" that is made up of professionals. I wish we could find a way to slow them down and get them out of the public eye. I see HGTV as one of the biggest frauds impacting our industry. Bankrate.com has an agenda that is not in harmony with professionals in the industry.

I agree with your conclusion "Hogwash!"

Sep 01, 2015 02:29 AM
Dana Hollish Hill
Hollish Hill Group, JPAR Stellar Living - Bethesda, MD
REALTOR * Broker * Coach

I'm glad you are on the ball and were able to see through this crazy article. 

Sep 01, 2015 03:40 AM
David A. Weaver
Peoples Bank & Trust Co. - Scottsdale, AZ
24 years helping folks finance their dreams.

Great observations.  Well done.  I've found that this explanation works pretty well to describe settlement charges.

I break it down into two sections, 1.  costs the buyer will incur if you pay cash for the home i.e.: hazard insurance, county property taxes, county recording fees, settlement agent fees, etc., 2.  costs the buyer will incur if you borrow money to purchase the home i.e.:  appraisal, credit report, loan origination, discount points, lender title insurance, pre-paid interest, etc. 

I also go over the optional costs i.e.: home mechanical inspection, wood destroying insect inspection, etc.

This seems to make the most sense to buyers trying to understand the breakdown of the costs associated with buying a home.

Don't worry though, just wait until October 3rd when TRID hits.  It will all be explained in detail, no questions or confusion........that's what they say anyway.  We'll see.

 

Sep 01, 2015 04:31 AM
Dr. Paula McDonald
Beam & Branch Realty - Granbury, TX
Granbury, TX 936-203-0279

I agree with Alan above.  Make sure clients know what it is exactly that they are really paying for.

Sep 01, 2015 06:45 AM
Margaret Goss
@Properties - Winnetka, IL
Chicago's North Shore & Winnetka Real Estate

Crazy - and poor journalism - to present such skewed facts!  Thank goodness for  Kat Palmiotti for getting it right.

Sep 01, 2015 08:01 AM
David Shamansky
US Mortgages - David Shamansky - Highlands Ranch, CO
Creative, Aggressive & 560 FICO - OK, Colorado Mtg

The fact those idiots even posted something like that makes them look like fools. YES closing costs have gotten more expensive as ALL consumers now pay for the regulations and BS the feds dump on us/burden us all with each year!?!?!?

Going down? Maybe they forgot what direction up and down were lol

Sep 01, 2015 09:18 AM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

Kat

Thanks for sharing you insight of closing costs . . . . Sounds like what they call fuzzy math . . . .

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Sep 01, 2015 12:02 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Kat, the title attorneys in our area are predicting that the new laws governing closings that go into effect in October are likely to increase costs for lenders and title companies that will be passed onto buyers.  Yeah.  Fuzzy math!

Sep 01, 2015 12:14 PM
Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

Kat, it would be hard to make assumptions about closing costs across the country. Bankrate.com definitely didn't think that through. 

Sep 01, 2015 12:20 PM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

John - Thanks for your comment. The more bad information out there, the more confused people become.

Dana - Thank you!

David W - You're right, closing costs are definitely different if you pay cash versus get a mortgage.

Paula - Agreed; they should know what the costs are ahead of time.

Margaret - Thank you!!

David S - The directionals definitely must have gotten confused.

Lou - Fuzzy math!  That's it!

Patricia - I hope not; people are already paying a ton of money.

Mike - No, they didn't!

Sep 01, 2015 08:34 PM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Yes Kat.  Another irresponsible article to generate interest in a business.  

Sep 01, 2015 10:01 PM
Mery Fernandez Empire Network Realty Luxury Brokerage
Empire Network Realty INC. - Orlando, FL
The Rise of An Empire, Let's Build Yours!

Hello and congratulations on your featured blog post! Well done and hope to see you have many more featured post.

Sep 04, 2015 12:19 AM
Bob "RealMan" Timm
Ward County Notary Services - Minot, ND
Owner of Ward Co Notary Services retired RE Broker

Closing cost have been very stable here Kat Palmiotti and most offers in our area ask the Seller to pay up to 3% of the purchase price towards the buyers closing costs and pre-pays. It almost always covers it.

Sep 07, 2015 06:42 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Most of these type articles are inaccurate and leave something out. You did a good job of pointing it out and letting buyers know to not be misled.

Sep 07, 2015 10:38 PM
Janis Borgueta
Newburgh, NY
Retired RE Salesperson

October will see even higher closing costs. Buying a home is not getting less expensive. There is money to be made when entering into the process and the fees that are at every turn add up and up and up.

Sep 18, 2015 07:45 PM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

Gabe - You're right.

Mery - Thank you.

RealMan - It's amazing how different the costs are in different parts of the country.

Debbie - Thank you!

Janis - The fees sure do add up, and I agree - costs are getting higher.

Sep 18, 2015 09:13 PM