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There's A Bathroom Vent Around Here Somewhere

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

In an attic I found one bathroom exhaust vent, but not the other one, and I thought, "There's a bathroom vent around here somewhere."

The problem with the one I could see is that it has been venting into the attic space for so long the moisture has damaged the roof sheathing.

Judging from the amount of damage, this may have been the case with the previous vent.

Bathroom exhaust fans should vent the air (and humidity) directly to the outdoors.

So, if this one is venting indoors, what about the other one?

I looked.  As much of the attic floor had been covered with plywood (crushing the insulation everywhere it lay) I could not see the metal box anywhere.

Calling down, I asked the agent to turn on the fan.

And I could hear it!  But I could not see it.

Crawling around with my ear to the plywood I found it.

At least as near as I could tell.

There it is!

Can you see it?

Neither could I.  But that red circle is very close to where it is.

Can you imagine what a mess it is under that plywood?

As an aside, to be effective insulation needs to be fluffy, puffy and deep.  Insulation derives its R-value (insulation ability) from its depth.  And that is true no matter the insulating product - fiberglass, cellulose or foam.

Crushing it with plywood, or storage of any sort, reduces its insulating ability virtually to zero. 

Insulation traps air to provide a thermal barrier.  Compacting any insulation traps less and less air, which, in turn, reduces its insulation ability.  Therefore heat will transfer through it more easily, in or out.

But plywood that blocks a bathroom vent is worse still!  That will prevent the heat from the fan motor from dissipating, and unit can overheat!  Plus the air it blows, and humidity, go no where.

My recommendation:  if you see your home inspector crawling around on plywood in the attic with his ear on the floor, he is probably doing it for a reason!  See what he comes up with!  When all is said and done it might be an important find!

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(19)

James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

Good morning Jay.  This sounds like something one only reads about.  It should stand as a tribute to the home inspectors who do so much for us when they are doing their job.  

Aug 31, 2015 08:51 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

James - I felt like Geronimo keeping his ear to the railroad track listening for the coming Iron Horse.

Aug 31, 2015 09:00 PM
Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

Good morning Jay,

Hopefully there was no mold problem as well.

Make yourself a great day.

Aug 31, 2015 09:43 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Hard to tell at that distance Raymond.  But moisture is moisture.

Aug 31, 2015 10:52 PM
Fred Hernden, CMI
Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque area Master Inspector

That is horrible, my grandson even knows better than that! I bet it's pretty under that plywood 

Sep 01, 2015 12:47 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I heard it as soon as they turned it on Fred.  And I was crawling around like a treasure hunter.  Should have had a metal detector!

Sep 01, 2015 12:55 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

I've lost count of homes for sale with attics where plywood has been used for walkways and crushing the insulation along the way. 

Sep 01, 2015 02:01 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

About half of the attic here had plywood Lenn.  Not good!

Sep 01, 2015 02:11 AM
Joshua Frederick
Home Inspector for ASPEC Residential Services, LLC - Defiance, OH
Home Inspector in Defiance & all of Northwest Ohio

A 3 or 4 inch hole saw and your good to go.  Quit makin' mountains out mole hills  :)

Sep 01, 2015 03:17 AM
Dana Hollish Hill
Hollish Hill Group, JPAR Stellar Living - Bethesda, MD
REALTOR * Broker * Coach

It's amazing to see the pictures of mistakes that have been wrong for so long and noone has noticed. I think that is why some sellers are shocked when they see home inspection reports. Thanks for sharing. 

Sep 01, 2015 03:38 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Be sure you drill your first hole in the right place, Joshua!

Dana - often they are shocked, but also, very often, they get mad.  Their house is perfect, after all...

Sep 01, 2015 08:25 AM
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

This is good to know. I had my husband go in the attic a couple of years ago after reading one of your posts about the strength of the bathroom fan and the business card test. We got that one fixed!

Sep 01, 2015 11:33 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Apologize to him for me Evelyn.

Kidding.  Good you could take care of it!

Now, try not to cover it with plywood!

Sep 01, 2015 07:10 PM
Stephen Weakley
Nationwide Mortgage Services - Rockville, MD

Poor bathroom fans.  Talk about a deadend job.

Sep 02, 2015 12:55 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

In this case, Stephen, one more dead end than the other!

Sep 02, 2015 06:35 AM
Mery Fernandez Empire Network Realty Luxury Brokerage
Empire Network Realty INC. - Orlando, FL
The Rise of An Empire, Let's Build Yours!

Hello and congratulations on your featured blog post! Well done and hope to see you have many more featured post.

Sep 04, 2015 12:19 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Thank you Mery.  I have a few now!

Sep 04, 2015 05:25 AM
Winston Heverly
Coldwell Banker Access Realty - South Macon, GA
GRI, ABR, SFR, CDPE, CIAS, PA

I really enjoyed your post, glad I came across it in the archives. Looking forward to others from you.

Sep 21, 2016 12:56 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Thanks Winston.  I have a bunch out there to run across!

Sep 21, 2016 08:22 PM