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Another Story About Real Estate and Reality

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It Doesn’t Work Like That:

Another Story About Real Estate and Reality

 

Pasadena Short SalesLast week, a Pasadena home came back on the market after being in escrow for about six weeks.

 

A short sale.   

A notice of default filed. Foreclosure in process.

 

It may be common in some markets to find all of these factors but not so much in Pasadena.

 

It was listed as an “approved” short sale.

 

Permit issues.   Deferred maintenance too.

 

 

And I had clients who wanted to see this home.

 

I was a bit leery -- photos of the house and showing instructions had a few red flags.

 

No problem.   

Hey, we deal with things like this.

 

An appointment is scheduled.  

No lockbox.  

We arrived about the same time a car pulls into the driveway.  

Not the resident it turns out but a couple who also want to see the house -- I guess an agent with a client.   

 

We see activity in the house and ring the bell -- not working but a knock on the door and it opens.

 

A chatty guy, not the owner, but a friend staying in the house, greets us.

 

I ask if we can look around and he says yes while the other couple stay in the living room for about a minute and then step outside.

 

They stand in the driveway talking with the occupant and then drive off.

 

My clients and I are walking around the property.   

 

Chatty guy comes around and asks if there are any questions but tells us it might be too late.  

 

The people who just came by saw the home in the multiple listing service and have an all cash offer.  

 

It’s sold” he says.   

And I saw the “cash”  --- I’m assuming he meant he saw some sort of proof of funds as I doubt they had hundreds of thousands of dollars with them.   

 

My clients are aware of short sales and the real estate process. Since he had already informed us he is not the owner -- they are shall we say -- amazed -- by his response that a short sale subject to lender approval is SOLD.  

 

Well, it doesn’t quite work that way....

 

We shall see how this plays out ----- but I’m here to let you know showing proof of funds and a handshake doesn’t create a contract. Not in Pasadena real estate.  

 

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It Doesn’t Work Like That

Another Story About Real Estate and Reality

 

Posted by

Michael Jacobs

 

CalBRE # 01165532

P. O. Box 587

Pasadena, CA 91102

Call/Text:  818.516.4393

mtj916@gmail.com

 

 

Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner - I'm sure there's much more to this story.  

Yeah, exactly Ralph Gorgoglione.

Let's just say this is in progress as I write this comment Carla Muss-Jacobs, Principal Broker/Owner.

Although short sales were not as common in our area as in others, I have also heard some of these horror stories(while not personally involved) Myrl Jeffcoat.

You mean - don't spend that commission check quite yet Bill Liz and Bill Spear?

Oct 27, 2015 06:51 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Definitely, Joan Whitebook.

If/when my clients decide to pursue anything with this property, I'll definitely be writing a follow-up post Tammy Lankford and Noah Seidenberg.

I'm fond of saying "it's not over until it's over Randy Prothero.

Vera Gonzalez beyond crazy.

 

 

Oct 27, 2015 07:11 AM
Bruce Brockmeier
Internet Marketing Consultant to REALTORS® - Yorba Linda, CA
Coached By Crouch

It’s sold” he says.   

And I saw the “cash”  

 

Hahaha!  Oh my.  Sounds like the beginning of an exciting novel. 

Oct 27, 2015 07:17 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Nancy Robinson - very little surprises me these days or ever for that matter.

Pamela Seley - getting clarification on the definition of "approved" was an issue --- just one of many red flags.

Life presents many of these head-scratching moments Praful Thakkar - some days more than others.

Huh is right Harry Ikanson.

Aloha, Kimo Stowell --- let's just say I had to keep my sarcasm and snarky ways in check --- and it wasn't easy.

 

Oct 27, 2015 07:19 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Kat Palmiotti - Kimo Stowell seems to be a pretty talented guy -- either he can show you or come up with a pretty good photoshop interpretation of that eyebrow.

I saw your post Joe Petrowsky and I've been in situations(both sides of the transaction) where the financed offer has "beaten" an all cash offer.  It does happen.   

You got that right, Sham Reddy.

Debbie Women of Westchester Working Together if/when there is more to the story, believe me there will be a post(or two). 

 

Oct 27, 2015 07:25 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

An adventure, yeah that's it... Gabe Sanders, that's it.

And I can handle the truth Joan Cox.  Although it might take some time and some digging to get to the bottom of this.

That's for sure Richie Alan Naggar.

I don't mind a challenge but some things are not worth pursuing Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI/

You may be right Sharon Lee.

 

Oct 27, 2015 07:30 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

A wink, a nod and/or a fist bump may work for some things, Nicole Doty - Gilbert Real Estate Expert but not likely in real estate.   

Funny and sad at the same time Athina Boukas - thanks.

You may have something there Rich Arnold.

Oct 27, 2015 07:46 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Bill Reddington - it's definitely never over until it's really over -- short sale or those of the "standard" variety.

Jon Kolsky JK - definitely entertaining on some level and kinda scary overall. Yikes!

Conrad Allen same here.  

Bruce Brockmeier - you don't have to make up this stuff - it practically writes itself.   

 

Oct 27, 2015 07:51 AM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

Michael

Sounds like it's an interesting story in the making.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Oct 27, 2015 12:43 PM
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

That is way off on how things work in Real Estate.  Good for the guy that doesn't own the home to sell it! I'm sure the bank will appreciate his assistance...

Oct 27, 2015 01:05 PM
Pamela Seley
West Coast Realty Division - Murrieta, CA
Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA

Michael, reminds me of the time a listing agent on short sales told me way back when he sends in a purchase contract to the short sale lender with Mickey Mouse as the buyer, just to stall. I'm sure that goes over really well. Like the lender can't figure it out?!! That is a hoot! Don't ever underestimate a short sale lender, is my motto; they know everything and if they don't they will eventually. I would think this listing agent's antics would qualify for a complaint with the CA real estate board, don't you?

Oct 27, 2015 04:50 PM
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

"It's SOLD and I saw the cash!"

Reminds me of the house next door to a listing. Obvious signs of deferred maintenance, just months away from being fully concealed in Kudzu vines, when the FOR SALE sign pops up in yard followed by packing of the utility trailer. Sign is now down.

"It's SOLD" he said. Today the bank has taken possession, foliage whacked back, and soon to be actually SOLD.

Why do folks do that?

Oct 27, 2015 11:13 PM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

We are waiting for the Part II of this story Michael Jacobs . . . this is indeed one tale where we want to know the rest of the story!  LOL

Oct 28, 2015 05:02 AM
David Alan Baker | Laveen & South Phoenix Realtor
Keller Williams Realty Phoenix - Laveen, AZ
Your local Expert

A handshake used to get it done.  Then they added a page to the handshake, then another, and another till here in Az we have about 9 pgs of contract.  Oh, and no more handshake.

Oct 29, 2015 07:56 AM
Tammie White, Broker
Franklin Homes Realty LLC - Franklin, TN
Franklin TN Homes for Sale

I'll be watching for the follow-up post. I hate it when some amateur thinks he has all the answers.

Oct 30, 2015 12:24 AM
Will Nesbitt
Nesbitt Realty at Condo Alexandria - Alexandria, VA
Nesbitt Realty is a family-run brokerage.

Dial Michael Jacobs at (626) 685-5246 on Pasadena, CA Real Estate discussions, with Coldwell Banker.

Oct 30, 2015 05:48 AM
Donna Foerster
HomeSmart Realty Group - Parker, CO
Metro Denver Real Estate Assistant

Geez, we see some strange things in this profession.  Good thing your buyers are working with a professional!

Sep 03, 2016 01:34 AM
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Coldwell Banker Realty

Michael Jacobs "We shall see how this plays out ----- but I’m here to let you know showing proof of funds and a handshake doesn’t create a contract. Not in Pasadena real estate."

Not here in AZ either!!

Right on target - and - re-blog!

Oct 17, 2016 12:20 AM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

The couple that drove off have a harsh reality to learn regardless of which state it starts in.  Short sales have a process and it isn't completed with a 3 minute conversation.

Oct 17, 2016 08:41 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Thanks for the reblog of this post today Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers and for your comments too Ed Silva.

Oct 17, 2016 10:02 AM