Capitalism Working under our nose

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Real Estate Agent with Windermere

While we all discuss what we think should and shouldn't be done by big brother to control what private industry does, or how much money it makes, something is brewing in the private sector. Imagine my suprise when I read a little story in the news about T. boone Pickens ( a evil big oil billionaire ) who is going to spend $10 BILLION on the worlds biggest wind farm! 

Imagine that, a private sector business person who can see where the market is heading and investing money to promote and build something that is good for the earth and his company. I wonder if we will get the same whining and complaining from the left if he starts to make tooooo much money? Or will the same people complain about the environmental impact of putting up wind mills? Of course they will, they have already started. Blogs that I see already are insulting the man, personal insults etc. name calling.  One blog writer was even complaining about how big the "wind turbines" were.

This is a great example of how the market will take care of itself without having Big Brother dictate what can and can't be done. 

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Rainmaker
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Hugh Krone
Weichert Referral Associates - Hamburg, NJ
Realtor, Sussex County NJ
Patrick the whiners and complainers will never stop. Thank God we have enough foward thinking people in the country to ignore them
Apr 21, 2008 06:20 AM #1
Rainmaker
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Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
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This country was founded upon Capitalism. When we allow the system to work, we are the greatest country in the world.

Unfortunately, the liberals want to turn this country into a socialist and I dare say communistic form of government. 

Apr 21, 2008 06:24 AM #2
Rainer
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» Bill Burress Nationwide Mortgage Originator
» Bill Burress Nationwide Mortgage Originator - Fort Myers, FL

Patrick:

The left are already whining about windfarms.  They are saying the windmills are killing migrating birds.

Apr 21, 2008 09:23 AM #3
Rainmaker
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Tchaka Owen
Galleria International Realty - Hollywood, FL
Patrick, you took a potentially really cool blog post and turned it into a whiny anti-left one.  Too bad, because I was actually very interested in what the article said about this guy.
Apr 21, 2008 10:10 AM #4
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Patrick Johnson
Windermere - Bellingham, WA

Sorry T man,

It wasn't meant to come off as an whiny anti-left post. It was meant to be an example of what our system does to every and all situations. Case in point, today a report came out that Hybrid car registration was up 38% from last year....not because liberals want the gov. to mandate that we all have to drive them, but because gas prices are making consumers think twice about what they buy. If that sounds whiny, sorry, I am not in charge of what their positions are.

But still, read up on the article ( I think it was on MSN?), if you can get past the name calling and read what he wants to do, it is pretty cool. Let me know what you think of his idea.

Patrick 

Apr 21, 2008 11:00 AM #5
Rainer
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Patrick Johnson
Windermere - Bellingham, WA

Hugh - You have hit the nail on the head!

Nicholas - Hopefully there will be a republican in the white house to counter the senate! Can you imagine the damage that will be done with an all left form of government?  scary

Bill - The migrating birds are about as important as Alaskan moose to me when I compare it to the economy      and security of this country. 

 

Apr 21, 2008 11:07 AM #6
Rainer
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» Bill Burress Nationwide Mortgage Originator
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Tchaka:

Why are you offended when a true story correctly depicts the left as being against capitalism?

Apr 21, 2008 01:01 PM #7
Rainmaker
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Tchaka Owen
Galleria International Realty - Hollywood, FL

Patrick - thank you for the link, I will look it up, read and get back to you.

Bill - if you read my comment, my issue with the blog post is that it did not give any detail, therefore I'm not sure how you could have gotten "the truth" out of it.  Or "the non-truth" for that matter.

 

Apr 21, 2008 03:08 PM #8
Rainmaker
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Simon Conway
Orlando Area Real Estate Services - Orlando, FL
I think the wind farm will be a lot of hot air (pun intended!) once my buddy JC Bell gets into full production. Unlimited cheap REAL oil.
Apr 21, 2008 03:21 PM #9
Rainmaker
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Kevin Robinson
Twin Falls, ID
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I installed a wind turbine on my property last year. During the spring I have no electrical bill and during the rest of the year, my bill is greatly reduced. They do work well.
Apr 22, 2008 02:37 AM #10
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Patrick Johnson
Windermere - Bellingham, WA

Simon - Real ( esp. real cheap ) oil is always welcome! I hope the wind turbine thing goes through anyway. A combination of all available sources is ideal for everyone.

Kevin - How big is the turbine? how much property do you have that you can do that? I have also heard that fairly small solar panels are becoming cheaper to install/buy and basically pay for themselves in 4-5 years.

Tchaka - I am trying to find the link that I read yesterday.....to no avail! I did type in T. Boone Pickens in the MSN search box and got several stories about it ( again, if you can get past the name calling by the writers ). You can find lots of info that way.

 

Apr 22, 2008 04:14 AM #12
Rainmaker
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Barrie Clulow
My Time Is My Own - Uxbridge, ON

Patrick - you can please some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time

May 28, 2008 12:15 AM #13
Rainmaker
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Kevin Robinson
Twin Falls, ID
Fractional Developer

Hey there are some posts above that AR forgot to delete. Bill lives on AR!

Patrick, sorry I never got back to you on this one. I only have 1 acre and I bought a small turbine. I can send you the specification if you wish. Only 1 negative- it makes a small bit of noise. My neighbors say they can't hear it so that is good. I am not going green, just going cheap.

May 28, 2008 02:53 AM #14
Rainmaker
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Mike Saunders
Lanier Partners - Athens, GA

Patrick -Mr Pickens will probably run into as many problems getting his wind farm going as if were going to try to get a refinery going. Everybody want's alternative energy, it just seems that nobody wants it in their backyard (that does includes many on the right as well as on the left).

Looking for a link, just enter T Boone Pickens wind farm into Google or Ask.com, comes up with a bunch of stories from last June.

then add opposition to the end of your search term and you come up with more.

 

May 28, 2008 06:46 AM #15
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Cheri Smith
Prudential Gary Greene, Cypress TX - Cypress, TX
Realtor Prudential Gary Greene

I'd prefer having a wind farm as my neighbor than a nuclear facility. Nuclear scares me after having lived and worked in Oakridge, TN.

May 28, 2008 07:14 AM #16
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Mike Saunders
Lanier Partners - Athens, GA

After having worked at Lawrence Labs & Sandia Labs, nuclear doesn't scare me so much. After seeing the records of France, Korea and other countries with responsible nuclear energy generating programs, it scares me even less.

May 28, 2008 07:39 AM #17
Rainmaker
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Mike Saunders
Lanier Partners - Athens, GA

After having worked at Lawrence Labs & Sandia Labs, nuclear doesn't scare me so much. After seeing the records of France, Korea and other countries with responsible nuclear energy generating programs, it scares me even less.

May 28, 2008 07:41 AM #18
Rainmaker
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Brandon Jordan
ERA American Real Estate - Crestview, FL

That is another phase I would like to see more on. The first that I have read and seen only a little on was the land grab for desert land in remote areas around California taking usless land from 500 dollars an acre to close to 10,000. The next part I hope is cover would be the increase and help that this is causing with the market in California to see now phase two with water rights prices are bound to go up, throw in the new jobs when the windmills come in and sun power solar work. This is looking better and better all the time.

 

Just wish it would get more news time. like we need to hear more about foreclosures, we get it times are tough can they start telling some solutions to the foreclosure problem instead of tellings us times are hard like we didnt know this already?

Sep 03, 2008 06:03 AM #19
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