LENDERS GOING AFTER YOUR ASSETS AFTER A SHORT-SALE

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Real Estate Agent with BaileyMeadows, Inc - Real Estate Services

I have a very concerned seller who is up-rooting his family out of California to relocate back to Texas. He will need to short-sale his current home in California and purchase a new home in Texas. 

Has anyone heard of any banks going after sellers' assets (like a lien against another property and/or bank assets) after a short-sale?

Your professional advice, opinion, and/or thoughts are much appreciated.  If you have any questions for me, feel free to ask and maybe I can help you out and/or anyone reading on to this blog. Thanks!

Comments (9)

Mike Mueller
Tech and Social Media Consultant - Walnut Creek, CA

Shiela- My post for my outside blog today was about the possibility of a Deficiency Judgment in the State of CA.

How timely.

Sorry for the link but I have to run and wanted to get you an answer.  It's quite simple for us Californians.

http://suburban-renewal.com/confessions/?p=52

Active Mike

 

Apr 22, 2008 07:09 AM
Melanie Ford
Prudential Utah Real Estate - Sandy, UT

Sheila,

Don't know about California, but in Utah if the seller is able to negotiate a "short sale" with the lender in lieu of foreclosure, the lender can file a Deficiency Judgment against the seller.  The judgment must be filed within 30 days of the release of lien and attaches to the seller's personal assets.  It may be worth the extra money for your client to hire an attorney that can help to protect his assets as well as negotiate with the lender to not file the Deficiency Judgment.  Some real estate agents that specialize in short sales have also been able to negotiate so that no judgment is filed.  If you are new to the process I would advise the attorney route.

Apr 22, 2008 07:29 AM
Sandra Carlisle (Ayers)
Berkshire Hathaway California Properties - Newport Beach, CA
Real Estate Marketing & Sales
Sometime they ask for a promissory note or other agreement to repay the short amount.  An experienced short sale specialist will ask the bank to agree to settle it "Paid As Agreed".   They should also consult their tax man about any tax implications for the amount short.  Sometimes it is considered gain and is taxable.  They don't want a painful surprise next year at tax time.
Apr 22, 2008 07:56 AM
Jim Crawford
Maximum One Executive REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Jim Crawford Atlanta Best Listing Agents & REALTOR
That is a very interesting topic!  I will follow this blog to see the responses!
Apr 22, 2008 07:57 AM
Ralph & Susan Alvarez
REMAX Benchmark - Las Vegas, NV
Real Estate Agent Las Vegas NV

Currently working on a short sale we are going through similar group of questions.

If a bank accepts a short sale my understanding they are saying Paid in full. One question has come up, What about income property? Not sure. In my case my client purchase a 3 rd home (the bought way down) before their credit goes south.

I've also have heard that the HELOC can come back after and try to collect and taxes may be due on home that are personal residence. I think my client will end up having to do bankrupcy but we are try to avoid it with these short sales.

The problem is to see if the bank will accept the short on both the previous 900K home and the 250k income home and not be thrown by the 230k home the presently live in.

 Ralph

Ralph

Apr 22, 2008 08:38 AM
Renee Coakley
Solid Source Realty GA - Snellville, GA
Great info. Thanks I will also follow this blog. I hope all turn out well.
Apr 22, 2008 10:29 AM
Jeff Fullmer
FM Properties - Idaho Falls, ID
Real Estate Investor/Financier

I know that prior to this year homeowners who did a short got taxed on the forgiven amount as it was treated like income. The law has now changed on single family residences as the forgiven debt is not classified as income.

Most banks do not go after a customer that ends up in a short sell. It is to expensive for one thing, the other is if the customer was so desperate to get out of their loan/house then chances are they don't have a whole lot of money. Work with an experienced attorney on it! Good luck!

Apr 22, 2008 10:46 AM
Anonymous
Rajesh

I am in the bay area california with a short sale situation. Does anyone know how i can find good attorneys that can guide me withthe very question of my exposure with my asets etc? Thanks

Nov 30, 2008 12:36 PM
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Miguel Garcia
Miramar International Inc - Bakersfield, CA
Certified Default Advocate - Short Sales, REO

Hello Shiela,

Here is your answer> Good luck with your Short Sale and if you need additional information please contact me Thank you!

Residential 1 - 4 units, Owner Intends to Occupy a Unit in the Secured Real Property Other Real Property

Lender Purchase Money Loan

 
Seller Financed Purchase Money Loan

 
Refinance (Non-Purchase Money Loan)

 

Lender Purchase Money Loan

 
Seller Financed Purchase Money Loan

 
Refinance (Non-Purchase Money Loan)

 
NO
deficiency judgment if senior or junior lienholder*

Cal. Code Civ. Proc. § 580b
NO
deficiency judgment if senior or junior lienholder*

Cal. Code Civ. Proc. § 580b
YES
deficiency judgment if judicial foreclosure

NO
deficiency judgment if trustee's sale foreclosure

Cal. Code Civ. Proc. § 580d
YES
deficiency judgment if judicial foreclosure

NO
deficiency judgment if trustee's sale foreclosure

Cal. Code Civ. Proc. § 580d
NO
deficiency judgment if senior or junior lienholder*

Cal. Code Civ. Proc. 
§ 580b
YES
deficiency judgment if judicial foreclosure

NO
deficiency judgment if trustee's sale foreclosure

Cal. Code Civ. Proc. § 580d

Nov 30, 2008 04:13 PM