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What Christmas Credit Score Wishes Came True in 2015?

Reblogger Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
Mortgage and Lending with NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 IL Lic 031.0006220/WI

 

    Tracy Becker, President of North Shore Advisory, Inc. of Elmsford, NY and AR member ... provides some valuable information for consumers that receive a Credit Score from their Credit Card company ...

 

     Tracy's post is especially important and timely for those consumers hoping to apply for a mortgage in the near future, as it certainly contains information that will be pertinent to them.  And most likely their lender will be discussing this very topic with them at that time.

 

     Bottomline:  Those applying for mortgage must know and understand that the FICO Score used by their lender is not the same as the one utilized by their credit company.  To gain that info, it's still best to talk to your Lender ... and well prior to starting your home search ....

 

     Thanks Tracy!

Original content by Tracy Becker

FICO Score with questionRecently I read an article about Christmas wishes that championed the free monthly offering of "FICO" scores by various credit card companies. The writer was excited that in 2015 "FICO" scores were being provided to credit card holders by most creditors. It seems as though the writer assumes that  this is a good thing and will help bring clarity to consumers but when you take  a closer look is this really the case? 

The majority of credit card companies now offer a free “FICO” score once a month.  Many assume there is one version of the "FICO" score and do not realize the score given to us with our credit card is not the same as the "FICO" score most lenders use. There are about 50 different versions of the "FICO" score and the one we get from our credit card provider is the FICO 8.  The FICO 8 is usually higher than the FICO scores lenders use for the purpose of a mortgage or business loan.  

The other problem is the credit card company only provides one of the three FICO scores needed to assess the score threshold.  Each individual has a FICO score for each of the three major credit bureaus that represents the risk level of the information presented.  Most lenders use the middle score of these three numbers to decide the risk of lending to the borrower.

Here are some examples of how the credit card score can cause confusion and cost consumers dearly:

Joe has been watching his credit scores monthly through his credit card FICO 8 score.  He does not read the fine print and assumes since it is a “FICO” score it is the same as the score his banker will use when he refinances his mortgage next month.

Fine print:

“Your FICO® Score and Credit Dashboard are for your educational purposes and based on data from Experian. The score we provide is FICO® Score 8 and may differ from other credit scores. ----  and other lenders may use different scores and other types of information in credit decisions. The information we provide is updated monthly and may not reflect the most current data on your credit report.”

 

Joe’s FICO 8 score is consistently between a 750 and a 760.  He has learned from online banking sites that being above a 740 will get him the better pricing on his loan.  He is sure the mortgage process will be easy and pricing will be low.  As the time rolls around for him to apply he contacts his banker who pulls his credit.  The banker comes back to him explaining that since his score is a 720 he will not get the best pricing.  Joe is confused and his banker refers Joe to my company for clarity.  After speaking with Joe he finally understands that a FICO- 8 is not the same version as the score his mortgage banker is using.  Unfortunately in Joe’s case the FICO 8 was much higher than his mortgage score and due to deadlines he had to refinance immediately and could not wait for his credit score to improve.

In another case, Janet is about to begin the process of shopping for a house.  Her credit card score has been above a 765 for the past 5 months.  She meets with a banker at her realtors request to get a mortgage pre approval letter which is required by sellers.  The banker pulls her credit and her middle score comes in at a 640.  Janet is shocked and after reviewing a copy of the credit reports she sees a few collection accounts on her credit.  As she researches further she learns these accounts were only on her Transunion and and Equifax. Because the credit card issuer only provided the Experian FICO 8 she was only seeing 1/3 of her credit scores.  Since the mortgage banker takes the middle number score even if her Experian FICO mortgage score was a 765 as long as the other two were 640 and 630 her middle score would remain at a 640.  Most collection agencies only report to two of the three credit bureaus since it is less costly and still has a great impact on the middle score.  After understanding how the three scores work in regards to a mortgage she felt frustrated by the one score provided to her by her credit card issuer.  Fortunately we were able to improve her scores by the time she found a home and she did wind up receiving excellent pricing on the loan.

 

 Having the correct information and insight about credit scores can lead to reaching goals successfully and huge savings for individuals.  Please share this information with your clients, friends, and family. 

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Comments(4)

George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Gene anyone who is planning on purchasing a home in 2016 needs to have their credit reviewed by an experienced LO right now in order to avoid surprises later.  The better the understanding a Borrower has of their credit and how it works the better prepared they will be.

Dec 30, 2015 06:16 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Totally agree, George Souto ... and the more time out in front of their home search they take this action .. the better too.  That way you and I have time to address issues we find .. and really help.


Gene

Jan 04, 2016 01:10 AM
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

Gene,

I wish you a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year. All the best in 2016 and no credit issues:)! 

Dec 30, 2015 06:13 PM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning Gene. Excellent choice for a re-blog. You're right Tracy shared very good information, especially important for anyone considering the purchase of their first home.

Best wishes for the New Year to you and yours.

Dec 30, 2015 07:14 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

I've been a fan of Tracy's blog and the info she provides for a long time now, Joe Petrowsky ... very helpful to clients and for Lenders alike.  Hope you find her and become a Follower too ...


Gene

Jan 04, 2016 01:11 AM
DEANNA C. SMITH CERTIFIED MOBILE NOTARY
Certified Mobile Notary Signing Agent - Smith Mountain Lake, VA
Highest Ranked Certified Mobile Notary in Virginia

I was not familiar with Tracy but am now following her.   Thanks for the re-post as this is a good explanation for buyers to understand  Gene Mundt, Chicago-area Mortgage Lender - www.genemundt.com 

Jan 06, 2016 05:43 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Glad you found Tracy, Deanna Early ... I've found her a great resource for valuable credit insight and info ...


Gene

Jan 07, 2016 02:28 AM