Do Minerals Transfer with the property?

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Real Estate Agent with United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

Do minerals transfer with the property?

I was representing the seller, when the buyer recently asked if the minerals transferred with the property; the question seemed more out of curiosity than anything else.

 

We looked at the copy of the title commitment and saw an Exception there for a mineral reservation by the Union Pacific Railroad in 1907.

Without the actual document before us, we really couldn’t tell whether all minerals were reserved by the Union Pacific, or if it was a coal reservation, or if they reserved the right to prospect for those minerals etc…so, I suggested that he read the document that was linked on his emailed copy of the title commitment.

 

Reservations made on deeds in the chain of title are shown as Exceptions on a title commitment, but title insurance examiners don’t (usually) follow the mineral chain. So, if the Union Pacific deeded those rights at a later date to the Golly Miss Molly Mineral Corp,  that transfer of rights wouldn’t show up on the title commitment. I knew if he had any further questions about the minerals we would refer him to legal counsel, or a “land man” to research fully the mineral ownership.

 

When minerals are “reserved” to the seller in a deed, those rights/minerals do not transfer to the buyer and are “severed” from the land.   In some cases, minerals/rights were severed well over 100 years ago. In the past, buyers may not have been aware of this.

 

The new 2016 Colorado Residential real estate contracts provide a new disclosure to buyers that they may not be purchasing the mineral rights, and that their property, or their neighbor’s property, could be subject to mineral development. The new disclosure, and Senate Bill 14-009 that requires it, doesn’t create a duty to investigate further for sellers or their agents, (however if the seller or their agent knows about anything that may impact the property they already have a duty to disclose.)

 

The Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (COGCC) may be a good place for buyers to get further information about oil and gas activity.

 

But, real estate documents often reference “Oil, gas and other minerals”. 

 

What are "other minerals"? Other minerals could be Oil, Gas,  Diamonds, Gold and Silver, Molybdenum, Amethyst, Sand and Gravel, Copper, etc… the list is very long, because Colorado is rich in mineral resources!

 

Just out of curiosity, I did a brief search for Oil and Gas production and Mines in our county.

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When I searched for “Mining in Larimer County”, I was so excited to find, on the first page of the search results, a nifty map entitled “Map of Mining in Larimer County Colorado”!

 

Eureka!

 

I thought, “ This map is a great resource for buyers”!

To my chagrin, the Silver Mine Subs, was listed and located on the map, precisely in the middle of the City of Fort Collins!   They make a great sub sandwich, but I’m fairly certain they are not involved in any mining or mineral activity!

 

The new disclosure on the new 2016 Colorado Residential Real Estate Contracts will provide necessary disclosure for buyers and I’m sure, some interesting conversation along the way.  

 

‘ Looking forward to a great 2016!

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Mary Douglas, your Mountain Broker-Associate and REALTOR®

United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, CO

 www.marydouglas-redfeatherlakes.net

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Comments (18)

Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

we had very little of that in my area, but from time to time we do run across it. Chances are slim to none someone is coming for the minerals, but I believe it's always disclosed here. The exception is in our deeds

Jan 03, 2016 05:52 AM
Bruce Walter
Keller Williams Realty Lafayette/West Lafayette, Indiana - West Lafayette, IN

Hi Mary!  I always learn so much from your posts, especially when the title expert is posting on another title nuance!  Hope you had a wonderful Christmas, Mary!

Jan 03, 2016 06:16 AM
Joan Dickie
Keller Williams Premier Realty - La Crosse, WI
Keller Williams Premier Realty

Very interesting post.m we, too, don't worry about that here, but it is good to hear how these issues are handled in other states.  

Jan 03, 2016 06:34 AM
Sharon Lee
Sharon Lee's Virtual Assistance - Jonesborough, TN
Retired and loving life

Hi Mary-Very informative post. Nice to see you my friend. Hope you had a great Christmas and wishing you

Jan 03, 2016 06:42 AM
Mary Douglas
United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado - Red Feather Lakes, CO
REALTOR, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

Hi Tammy,  as far as I know, mineral rights are not a big issue in our immediate area...but in many counties oil & gas production is huge and can be a concern for many buyers. Thanks, Happy New Year Tammy.

 

Thanks Bruce,  I hope you and your family had a great Christmas too!  This new disclosure on the contracts is good information for buyers.  Happy New Year Bruce!

 

Hi Joan,  Happy New Year, yes, it is interestesting to see how other parts of the country deal with mineral rights, thanks!

 

Thank you Sharon, we had a great Christmas,  I hope you did too!  Its always nice to see you!  take care- thanks for the lovely pic,

Happy New  Year Sharon!

 

Jan 03, 2016 07:41 AM
John Pusa
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Crest - Glendale, CA
Your All Time Realtor With Exceptional Service

Mary Douglas It depends on the area and location. Happy New Year!

Jan 03, 2016 12:26 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Thank you for the information. Have a great 2016.

Jan 03, 2016 08:06 PM
Mary Douglas
United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado - Red Feather Lakes, CO
REALTOR, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

Hi John, you are absolutely correct in that.  Sometimes they transfer and sometimes they don't.  Thanks for stopping by today.

 

Hi Gita, thank you- All the best to you in 2016!

Jan 04, 2016 12:50 AM
Jane Peters
Home Jane Realty - Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles real estate concierge services

That isn't a question that often comes up, but kudos to you for doing all that research. It is a complicated issue.

Jan 04, 2016 04:32 AM
Mary Douglas
United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado - Red Feather Lakes, CO
REALTOR, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

Hi Jane, it is a complicated issue- I imagine it doesn't come up in metro areas...but I don't know for sure! :)  Thanks for stopping in, I appreciate it.

Jan 07, 2016 04:43 AM
Wayne Zuhl
Remax First Realty II - Cranford, NJ
The Last Name You'll Ever Need in Real Estate

Hi Mary,

We don't usually see that around here.  However our seller's disclosures ask if there are any mining operations on the property.

Jan 21, 2016 05:11 AM
Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

Golly Miss Molly Mineral Corp...you crack me up. 

You know the light bulb went off when I read this post. I need to google mining in my county. Coal is very here. You still have a handful of residents that still have coal fired furnaces. I'm one of them, but mine doesn't work, so I burn coal in my wood stove along with wood. 

Jan 21, 2016 07:52 AM
Mary Douglas
United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado - Red Feather Lakes, CO
REALTOR, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

Hi Wayne & Jean Marie,  if you don't see that in your market...on less thing to worry about!  Thanks for stopping by, I appreciate it.

 

Hi Debbie, yes the Golly Miss Molly Mineral Corp! :-)  I think there are huge coal reserves around there!  We used to burn coal also; ' such a nice warm heat  &  keeps the fire going all night long - Thanks Debbie-, always nice to see you.

Jan 21, 2016 10:04 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Realtor Top 1%
RE/MAX Gold - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

Even though Sacramento is known for mining, we don't often see mineral rights excepted in a deed because the mining went on in the foothills and mountains, not down in the valley. Besides, why do people sometimes object to mineral rights exceptions? Do they think they're gonna discover something like the Beverly Hillbillies on TV?

Jan 22, 2016 01:37 AM
Mary Douglas
United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado - Red Feather Lakes, CO
REALTOR, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

 

Hi Elizabeth, Thanks for stopping in and asking!  I think people might object to a mineral reservation because it limits their ability to control what happens on their land.  In a neighboring county, that is rich in oil and natural gas, there are around 450 wells; some located in or very near residential areas, as well as on larger rural acreages.
If the landowner owns the minerals rights, they have the ability to lease them, collect lease payments and/or royalties and have more control over the use of their property, than a purchaser who doesn’t.

I'm just guessing Jed Clampett had the mineral rights, or there would be no Beverly Hillbillies ?

 

Jan 22, 2016 03:59 AM
Sharon Paxson
Compass - Newport Beach, CA
Newport Beach Real Estate

Hi Mary - that is interesting and it is great you did that research and know you will advise your clients with this information. As Jane said, we often don't get that question here. And it is probably a good thing it is now on the disclosures for 2016.

Jan 24, 2016 01:56 AM
Mary Douglas
United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado - Red Feather Lakes, CO
REALTOR, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

Hi Sharon, thanks for stopping by today.  I usually don't get that question either... but with the new disclosure on the contracts, I'm thinking it might it get asked more often- which is a good thing. :-)

Jan 24, 2016 07:21 AM
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz
Las Vegas, NV

Hello Mary ... interesting post my friend and in many states mineral rights have been taken away. But I do know of Patent Deeds that still exist in the US than transfer all rights!

Feb 08, 2016 03:54 AM

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