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Sometimes habits can be broken

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Home Inspector with Charles Buell Inspections Inc.

When building things it is best to not rely on “habit” to keep things together.

Why these stairs have not collapsed yet can only be attributed to luck and habit.

Looking at the pictures, it should be pretty self-explanatory what is wrong and yet, it certainly was not self-explanatory to whoever built the stairs. The blue line with the black stripe represents the “effective” strength of the stringer that supports the treads. The minimum depth of the remaining portion of the stringer is supposed to be 5” for the given span of the stairs. These stairs, as you can see measure 3-1/2 inches.

Improper stringers

So to begin with the stringers are WAY undersized but then the top was notched to allow for installation of the wrong type of hanger which results in further reducing that 3-1/2” distance to 1-3/4 inches.

Improper stringers

This leaves the “effective” or “functional” strength of the stringer at 1-3/4 inches. To make things even worse at one of the tread's notches that entire 1-3/4 distance is filled by a knot.

There are too many other things wrong with these stairs to go into here but this single defect is enough to require that the entire stairs (actually whole deck) be replaced by someone that makes a habit of knowing what they are doing.

 

Charles Buell, Real Estate Inspections in Seattle

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Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Nice, MR knotty.

Feb 22, 2016 01:15 AM
Charles Buell

It is knot nice

Feb 22, 2016 08:26 AM
Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

That is just an accident waiting to happen.  Especially if the wood starts rotting at all. 

Feb 22, 2016 04:26 AM
Charles Buell

I can just imagine someone attemptiong to dolly a refrigerator up these stairs

Feb 22, 2016 08:26 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Charles - While I didn't know the details that make it dangerous, that just plain looks wrong. I'd never have caught it, but that's why we rely on inspectors.

Feb 22, 2016 04:41 AM
Charles Buell

Most of the things we inspect for are not this easy

Feb 22, 2016 08:27 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I think mine might not be any more than that.  Hmmm.  I'm going to have to check that.

Feb 22, 2016 12:35 PM
Charles Buell

Tammy, I sure hope they are better than this

Feb 22, 2016 01:00 PM