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Lesson Learned - I should have gone with my instincts

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Real Estate Agent WV0026375

 

I had a funny feeling about the buyer that called on a Thursday and wanted to see a house the next day and it would be a cash offer.  Really, sounds to good to be true.

 

House for Sale in Rainelle, 23 acres, LP $199,000The listing agent said the sellers would be home to open the house.  It was a very nice home on 23 acres listed at $199,000. So on Friday, June 6, I met the buyers at the property. The buyers said they lived in Lexington, KY, and wanted to buy this home  for a friend. Buyer was soft spoken and very pleasant.

 

 

Buyer says he will pay cash for the home ($195K) and would use his inheritance to pay for the house.  We wrote an offer on a home in Rainelle. The buyer did not have a check for the Earnest Money Deposit (EMD), $5,000, and was going to ask his dad, an attorney in Morgantown, WV, for the proof of funds and a check, and that he and his dad knew my brother-in-law who is a judge in Morgantown.  

 

Since buyer did not have a check, his dad would get him the money and he would meet me at the bank to get a cashier's check for the EMD. Also, his dad would provide him a proof of funds statement from the bank.  At that time, I informed him that the Broker will put the check into an escrow account. He was okay with that. But, my gut was saying something is wrong. He said he would like to close in 45 days and give the sellers time to move.  Offer was sent.  Sellers counter was to close in 15 days and rent back for 30.  Buyer was okay with this counteroffer.

 

Buyer was suppose to meet me on Saturday morning to get the EMD and provide the proof of funds statement.  When I called Buyer to confirm meeting, he was upset. His dad said he had never heard of someone cashing the deposit check, they usually hold it til closing. Buyer informed me that he had bought five homes and no one cashed the deposit check.  As I told him the EMD lets the seller know that you are serious and not going to walk away from the contract. If you do, walk with no reason, the money goes to the seller......unless the seller agrees to release their EM.   Then he goes off about closing early and the seller renting back for 30 days.  I said you agreed to this change last night, now you want to close in 45 days.  Buyer goes on and on and I finally say do you want to meet or think about this offer. 

 

He says he will meet me at 10 am at my office. In the meantime I had to call the listing agent about the buyer's change of heart regarding the closing.  Needless to say, buyers did not show. I called him twice and text him. Finally decided to call the the woman Beverly as I had her fax number. She answered...that told me they were not meeting with me. I asked to talk with Jason. He comes to the phone.... I say hello Jason this is Rebecca Gaujot... he HANGS UP on me.  I then get a call from the listing agent. She says sellers do not want to entertain this offer and don't feel right about this buyer.  So I text Jason and said Sellers do not want to go any further with this offer.  I never heard from him.


On Sunday, at 6:30pm, I received a call from another Seller that has her home on the market for over $800K in Rainelle. She stated that some people stopped by their home and did not have a Realtor and wanted to see the home. Mr. Seller told them to leave and get off the property, and to make an appointment with a Realtor. The sellers said that the buyer used my name as their Realtor and called me while at the house, but that was a lie...he never called me. 

 

I suggested to the Mrs. Seller to call the police. She did and gave the police the information and phone number that I had provided.   Since Buyer had indicated that his father was an attorney in Morgantown, I decided to check into the veracity of that statement.  I discovered after speaking to an attorney in Fairmont, WV, that the person he called dad had no male children.  This furthered my suspicions of the Buyer.

 

Mrs. Seller called Monday morning and provided this info:  The State Police in Rainelle found the buyers and friend in Charmco last night. They asked about a dog that they had in a cage and if they knew anything about the missing dog that was at the house they were at earlier in the day. They, of course, said no.  The police told the buyer/friends that they are not to go on any property without a Realtor, and this behavior will not be tolerated, and that the police would be watching them.   The State Trooper also said  that Buyer is a convicted felon from Fairmont. So he has been through the court system and knows attorneys and judges. Good news for the sellers.... their dog   showed up at their door later that night.

 

Cash offers do not happen too often. But my instincts were right and red flags started appearing when I met the buyers, not having a check on them, not wanting the EMD cashed, no proof of funds with them, changing closing dates, etc.


Listen to your instincts. I would rather lose a sale... then my life.

 

I sent out an MLS email to all Agents/offices to inform them about these people and a description of each. The Buyer said he found me on Trulia as well as the listings. I think they were looking for listings in secluded areas and senior sellers.


 

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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Good morning Rebecca, Thank you fo sharing your story. We always learn from our experience.

Jun 07, 2016 09:08 PM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

True, Gita. Thanks for stopping by.

Jun 08, 2016 12:25 PM
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Prudence and adhearance to safety protocols are the only way to go. It appears these 'Buyers' were clearly up to no-good and need to be removed from the general population. Great post, Rebecca Gaujot, the Go To Realtor® !

Jun 07, 2016 10:57 PM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Definitely, they were up to no good, Sandy and Norm.

Jun 10, 2016 12:21 AM
Sharon Tara
Sharon Tara Transformations - Portsmouth, NH
Retired New Hampshire Home Stager

What a nightmare!  Real estate can be quite a frightening business. Instincts are so important!

Jun 08, 2016 12:16 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Sharon, it wa definitely a nightmare for both sellers.

Jun 10, 2016 12:21 AM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

This is quite a story. Thank you very much for sharing your experience.

Jun 08, 2016 12:36 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Roy, it was unbelievable. Thanks for your daily support here in the Rain.

Jun 10, 2016 12:22 AM
Lottie Kendall
Compass - San Francisco, CA
Helping make your real estate dreams a reality

Your tale is a great reminder to us all to trust our instincts. You did a great job in advising the seller to contact the police.

Jun 08, 2016 01:36 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Lottie, yes it really taught me to trust more on my instincts.

Jun 10, 2016 12:22 AM
Lawrence "Larry" & Sheila Agranoff. Cell: 631-805-4400
The Top Team @ Charles Rutenberg Realty 255 Executive Dr, Plainview NY 11803 - Plainview, NY
Long Island Condo and Home Specialists

There were too many red flags on this one Rebecca. This business certainly brings out some weird situations... 

Jun 08, 2016 04:00 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Yes, Larry and Sheila, a lot of red flags for sure.

Jun 10, 2016 12:23 AM
Robert Bob Gilbert
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Anderson Properties - Katy, TX
Your Katy TX ( West of Houston) Real Estate Expert

Rebecca, Harrowing story which easily could have gone real bad. Great advice of listening to your instincts. Safety first. Cash offers are not that common here. Earnest Money checks are always cashed so this criminal was talking off the top of his head. 

Jun 08, 2016 06:37 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Yes, it ares me to think this could have gone really bad, Robert.

Jun 10, 2016 12:23 AM
Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX

Rebecca,

 I watched the story of Beverly Carter here recently I had it on my saved programs I wish she had gone with her instincts. Have a good evening!

Jun 08, 2016 09:36 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Something we should all rely on is our instincts, Yolanda.

Jun 10, 2016 12:29 AM
Amanda S. Davidson
Amanda Davidson Real Estate Group Brokered By Real - Alexandria, VA
Alexandria Virginia Homes For Sale

Rebecca, I have goosebumps. What a scary story. I'm so glad you and the dog are ok but, sure hope this guy is off the streets soon. Sounds like he is definitely up to no good. 

Jun 09, 2016 10:41 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Amanda, I was so glad when the seller told me her dog was back.

Jun 10, 2016 12:30 AM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

Rebecca

The person had no respect for you or your time.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Jun 09, 2016 12:45 PM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

So true, Lou.

Jun 10, 2016 12:30 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

That has the hairs on the back of my neck at attention. Yes this guy was putting off vibes and gald you ended it before something regretable happened. Lesson Learned.

Jun 09, 2016 01:05 PM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Yes a lesson learned, Debbie.

Jun 10, 2016 12:30 AM
Elyse Berman, PA
LoKation Real Estate - Boca Raton, FL
Boca Raton FL (561) 716-7824

Rebecca Gaujot, the Go To Realtor® What a story!  You were wise to trust your instincts.

Jun 13, 2016 10:23 PM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Elyse, I agree.

Jun 22, 2016 01:49 PM
Kristen Correa, Broker
Kristen Correa Real Estate & Reedy Creek Realty Services - Keller, TX
I love coffee & real estate. I am out of coffee!

Wow. WOW! 

I am glad that chapter is closed.

Jun 14, 2016 10:14 PM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Oh my Kristen, so am I.

Jun 22, 2016 01:49 PM
Georgie Hunter R(S) 58089
Hawai'i Life Real Estate Brokers - Haiku, HI
Maui Real Estate sales and lifestyle info

Wow that's some story. How strange they would steal a dog while looking at the home.  You were lucky it wan't worse.

Jun 20, 2016 12:56 PM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Georgie, they were casing the homes to come back later to rob and didn't want any animals around...at least this is what I think.

Jun 22, 2016 01:50 PM
Georgie Hunter R(S) 58089
Hawai'i Life Real Estate Brokers - Haiku, HI
Maui Real Estate sales and lifestyle info

I wish we had properties like this in Hawaii!  $199,000 won't buy much over here.

Jun 20, 2016 12:59 PM
Chris and Dick Dovorany
Homes for Sale in Naples, Bonita Springs and Estero, Florida - Naples, FL
Broker/Associate at Premiere Plus Realty

We have a bit of a ring going on here in Naples right now.  Nice couple with a few kids in tow ha
ve been casing homes for future break ins.  Even here in Naples where the crime rate is very low - we are packin!!!

Jun 23, 2016 06:08 AM
MichelleCherie Carr Crowe .Just Call. 408-252-8900
Get Results Team...Just Call (408) 252-8900! . DRE #00901962 . Licensed to Sell since 1985 . Altas Realty - San Jose, CA
Family Helping Families Buy & Sell Homes 40+ Years

Ouch. My mother taught me to always, always go with your gut.

Aug 23, 2016 03:32 PM
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

I thought I had read this, but I hadn't. Thank goodness you are okay and those "buyers" are no longer a problem for you.

Aug 24, 2016 06:02 AM
Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

Definitely a scary scenario. Thanks for sharing Rebecca Gaujot, the Go To Realtor® I will bookmark and add to my class material.

Hope all is well with you & Claude.

Aug 25, 2016 09:58 PM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®

Mary, a good reminder for both new agents and those who have been an agent for years. Claude is fine, thanks! Give Dave a big WV hello for us.

Aug 26, 2016 09:55 AM
Claude Labbe
RLAH / @properties - Washington, DC
Realty for Your Busy Life

That's one twist you don't often hear about.

Protect yourself, and those in the community.

Maybe yes, take the Chocolate Lab with you too (as well as ensuring your husbands knows where/when/who-with you will be)

Sep 20, 2016 12:44 PM