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Ask not "How Much Will You Pay Me?" - Ask "How Much Do I Pay You?"

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Real Estate Agent with Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International

Not enough agents treat their real estate careers as a business. When they interview with a real estate company, they ask what share of the commission they will get: is it 50%, 70%, 95%? What is included, what are you going to do for me?

That's the question asked by an employee, not a business owner. You're an Independent Contractor. That means you're in Business, even if it's a business of one. You ARE a business.

Turn the % around - what are you paying the real estate company? 50%, 30%, 5%?  What are you getting for that money? It could be training, mentoring, brand recognition, print materials, advertising, floor time, leads - so many things. You need to analyze what you're paying for what you're getting, and determine if it makes sense. If the benefits are more than the costs, that's good. When that ceases to be the case, that's bad. Most business (at least for experienced agents) comes because of you, not your company.

How much of your business does come directly, from the company, or through referrals because you ARE with a particular brand or company? Figure that out. Of course the unknown is how much you would get by being with another brand, or on your own. Business forecasting, like any projection, does have unknowns.

This is the most basic question of business. Then go on to look at other aspects of your business.

What are you getting back for your advertising and marketing? How many calls to do you get - more important, how many transactions have you closed as a result of that advertising? Then compute your cost per sale. Compare that to internet strategies, direct mail, etc. Measure effectiveness and response, not vanity. You are a business.

Do you track how much time and expense goes into each transaction? You should. Use that to determine which buyers and sellers or types of transactions you should accept, and which to turn down.

Sharon Simms, Real Estate Agent selling homes in St. Petersburg, Florida, the Gulf Beaches and the Tampa Bay area.

 

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Sharon Simms
CIPS CRS CLHMS CRB RSPS
Coastal Properties Group
CHRISTIE'S International Real Estate
238 Beach Drive NE
St Petersburg, FL 33701
www.ssimms.com    www.coastalpgi.com   www.christiesrealestate.com
(727) 898-2582    Sharon@SimmsTeam.com

 

Christina Ethridge
The North Idaho Dream Team powered by SKE Realty Group - Coeur d'Alene, ID

I STILL don't understand when people say they 'have an interview' with so and so agency.  When they word it as if the agency is interviewing them and hiring them.  Whenever I hear people talk like this, unfortunately, I already know they aren't going to make it in real estate.  It's YOUR business, not anyone elses.  You are NOT employed, you are an independent contractor.

Oh, and it drives me BONKERS how real estate agents are portrayed to be employees in TV and Movies.  Simply bonkers! 

Feb 25, 2007 01:58 AM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS

Leigh - your Dad is a wise man.

Bryant - you're right. I know you'd be successful anywhere.

Kaye - some high grossers actually come out negative!

John - and I'll bet your technology hardware is more advanced than theirs.

Bryce - now that's carrying it even further. You have to know what you want out of life, too.

Jason - yes, it's always good to evaluate before you jump.

Maggie - some of us learn faster than others, but we all have to learn.

Stephen - goes back to the Ask Not question. Glad you found a company centred on its agents and their success.

Diane - unfortunately we can all hope that, but too many agent don't.

Mitchell, you're absolutely right - there are lots of variables that go into the analysis.

Christina - it does drive you crazy! Perhaps if the majority of agents regarded themselves as business people, the media might take notice.

 

Feb 25, 2007 07:55 AM
Brian Brady
Matthews Capital Markets - Tampa, FL
858-699-4590
Good job, Sharon.  I like how you flip the compensation model around and demand that the licensee determine the "value" they get for the broker's side of the compensation.  What a great reminder that we should be running our "business" like a business.  I also like how you encourage the reader to track their expenses per transaction.
Feb 25, 2007 01:54 PM
Brian Brady
Matthews Capital Markets - Tampa, FL
858-699-4590

Thanks for the entry in The "Carnival of the Economics of Real Estate".  I'll be posting the entries and winners by Friday and will be sure to notify the winner about his/her new Forbes subscription.  We had fifteen entries; two from new Active Rain members.  You can see all the entries here with a star next to them.

Each entry was masterful.  One person will win the Forbes subscription but all of you won something from your well thought out posts; increased knowledge.  Be sure to comment on each other's posts.  There is a lot to learn from each other.
Feb 28, 2007 04:29 PM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS
OK, Brian - you focused my morning. I read all the Stars and commented on most of them.  Tomorrow I'll get back to my regular blog reading.  Looking forward to getting your interview questions.
Feb 28, 2007 11:07 PM
Robert D. Ashby
Cruise Planners of South Florida - Plantation, FL
Providing Personalized Travel

Sharon,

Excellent post.  I will add from a Mortgage Brokers perspective as we have similar compensation issues.

One of the big reasosn that I left other companies and started my own was that for the "cost" of hanging my license elsewhere, I was not receiving the support, technoglogy, and other necessary items to justify that cost.  The main reason is lack of flexibility and restrictions on my abilities to perform as a mortgage planner since those companies didn't fully understand what I was doing.

Any Realtor(R) or Mortgage Broker that has a license can and should go elsewhere if they are not receiving adequate value for their "cost" of employment (employer's cut).  As you mentioned, we are all running our own "businesses" and need to trim the "fat" from our expenses and work towards better customer service (main key) and increased profitability for us so we can stay in business.  Just my 2 cents.

Mar 01, 2007 12:23 AM
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Sharon~  I had a professor who insisted, "You can't get anywhere until your philosophy is in place." Your post reminds me of his advice.
Mar 01, 2007 12:13 PM
Anonymous
Jeff Brown
Sharon  - I think one of the biggest, yet most successful myths created by real estate companies is the one about their brand being so helpful. Unless you're one of the favored agents, your business comes from you and nothing else. I used to asked my buddies at Pru Ca if they brought the 'Rock' with them on listing presentations.  I can't print their responses here. :)
Mar 01, 2007 03:34 PM
#18
Renée Donohue~Home Photography
Savvy Home Pix - Allegan, MI
Western Michigan Real Estate Photographer

Congratulations Sharon!

Along the line of what Jeff says:  Hot Air Balloons don't sell houses - REALTORS DO!

I wish more people in our business "got it"

Mar 01, 2007 03:38 PM
Kaye Thomas
Real Estate West - Manhattan Beach, CA
e-PRO, Manhattan Beach CA

Congratulations Sharon... I knew I really liked this when you wrote it...

K

Mar 01, 2007 05:51 PM
Brian Brady
Matthews Capital Markets - Tampa, FL
858-699-4590

Congratulations, Sharon.  You were in a MAJOR contest with outstanding posts so this victory should be extremely sweet.  Thanks to all who entered.

I think the questions will come this weekend.  I'm reading background articles about you and Lenn.  You two are so interesting and have amazing careers! 

Mar 01, 2007 05:53 PM
Ann Heitland
Retired from RE/MAX Peak Properties - Flagstaff, AZ
Retired from Flagstaff Real Estate Sales
Wish I could pay even less!
Jun 06, 2007 03:58 PM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS
Ann - I'm sure there are places where you CAN pay less - it's all a matter of tradeoffs.
Jun 07, 2007 01:49 PM
Brian Sharkey
SharkeyRE LLC - Singer Island, FL
SharkeyRE
Our company is switching to GMAC on Jan. 1 and that the question I keep asking, we pay x what are we getting for that.
Dec 22, 2007 04:50 AM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS
Brian - time of major change with a company are often times to re-evaluate where you are, where you're going, and where you WANT to go. The analysis may tell you to stay instead of move, but at least you'll feel better about your choice. 
Dec 22, 2007 07:39 AM
Kerry Lucasse
eXp Realty - Urban Nest Real Estate Group - Atlanta, GA
Your Urban Nest Atlanta Real Estate Consultant

When I got my real estate license, I'm thankful that someone reminded me that I was interviewing the BROKER, not the other way around, and it really helped me select the brokerage that best fit my needs.  I enjoy the education and support, but what is MOST important is the bottom line.  My broker has a 'cap' of what you need to contribute each year and once you reach that cap, all of your commissions are 100% until your next anniversary date.  It is fantabulous!

Jun 28, 2008 05:55 AM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS

Kerry - you were lucky to have that advice - more agents really need to realize they're running a business and that they're paying the broker, not the other way around.

Jun 28, 2008 06:18 AM
Joyce M. Marsh
Luxury Home Couture - Daytona Beach, FL
Joyce Marsh Homes & Design

A comment that I hear quite frequently is that "I want to hang my license with your company"!

I'm not sure exactly where that phrase came from, but it is a real turn off for me as a Manager. 

The relationship between the Agent and the Broker should be a win win for both parties, and both should be bringing something to the relationship that the other needs and will benefit from.

Dec 01, 2008 08:34 AM
Don Hess
KW Elite Keller Williams 1280 Plaza Blvd. Lancaster, PA 17601 - Quarryville, PA

When I first got my license my first question to the Broker was: "I have a business plan worked out, what are you going to do to help me implement it and be successful." I requested and received a mentor that sat down with me EVERY week and together we evaluated what was working and what wasn't.

While I was very interested in what I received in return for my fees, implementing my plan was the top priority for me.

There's another point. The plan's tactics have to be measurable. If you can't measure your results you're probably wasting your time. By the way, I had an excellent mentor named Mike Perry.

Don 

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