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How to "Replace" Mortgage Insurance

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How to "Replace" Mortgage Insurance

  

 

     The many questions and comments I received regarding my recent post about Private Mortgage Insurance prove that PMI remains a topic of real interest and concern for Borrowers and real estate professionals alike ...

 
     After reading my post, many readers raised the question, "Is there any way to avoid paying monthly Mortgage Insurance"?  The short answer to that question is "yes", there is.
 
     But as typical with most things in financing these days, there are asterisks attached to that answer ... and stipulations must be met first in order to do so. 
     
     The following 3 options are the most commonly applied methods of monthly Mortgage Insurance avoidance.  I recommend that any Chicagoland Borrower considering their use have a long, detailed conversation with me  (elsewhere your own Lender) to determine the pros and cons of each application and use.  
 
     1.  Piggyback/Second Mortgages: These loans are often used in high-end housing markets where the proceeds of a Second Mortgage are used as a part of the Down Payment. 
 
     This method allows the Borrower to essentially place a 20% Down Payment on a purchase of a home via a Second Mortgage.
 
     If a Borrower has a 10% Down Payment available:  The Borrower can utilize an HELOC (Home Equity Line of Credit) for the remaining monies needed (10%) to make a full 20% Down Payment on the purchase price of a home ... the level at which Mortgage Insurance is avoided.  This, of course, results in a second Mortgage Payment, which ideally is less than their Mortgage Insurance monthly payment would have been.
 
     The concept of using this option is to:  Have the combination of the lower 1st Mortgage amount (aided by the use of the 2nd Mortgage), plus the lack of monthly Mortgage Insurance, result in a lower total monthly Mortgage Payment.
 
     2.  For those Borrowers uninterested in a Second Mortgage, but do NOT have a 20% Down Payment:  Mortgage Insurance (in some form or another) is still a requirement in most all cases.    
 
     But ... a lump sum one-time prepayment of monies, in what's called a "Single-Premium Mortgage Insurance" arrangement is possible.  This Single Premium Payment option is a one-time payment at Closing.  It's made in addition to the other Closing Costs needing to be paid by the Borrower.
 
     This method is most often utilized when Borrowers have the funds to do so ... or must keep the Monthly Mortgage Payment at an "Approvable Debt-to-Income Ratio".
 
     Note:  Seller-paid Closing Costs CAN also be used to "single pay", or help offset, the Mortgage Insurance.
 
     3.  Lender-Paid Mortgage Insurance:  This option includes an Interest Rate that is higher than the normally available Interest Rate for the Borrower.  The higher rate charged helps The LENDER to pay for the Mortgage Insurance.  As a general rule of thumb, this option is less desirable for those intending to own that same Mortgage for 10 years or longer.
 
     Again, all of the above options require in-depth analysis prior to any decision made or action being taken.
 
     So, if a Borrower:  Take the time to ask your LO questions regarding each option.  Gain a thorough, detailed explanation as to each's application in your individual borrowing scenario before coming to any conclusions or taking action.
 
     And remember, if I can help in any way, please contact me with your questions or needs ...
   
 


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Comments(29)

Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi - as always, bookmarked.

Was aware of lender-paid PMI - however, they will find out some way to recover it, I guess

Sep 09, 2016 02:09 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Thank you, Praful Thakkar ... and yes, the Lender sees that it's "paid" for ...


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 01:40 AM
Richard jhonson
kgn - Ocean Beach, CA
i am real estate agent

Thanks Gene great article on Mortgage

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Sep 09, 2016 03:17 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Thank you, Richard jhonson ...

Sep 10, 2016 01:40 AM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

Yes, there could be options available - the key point is to contact a skilled mortgage originator!

Sep 09, 2016 08:32 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

That IS pretty much the bottom line, Kat Palmiotti ... seeking the info and guidance needed to make a sound decision for yourself if very important ..


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 01:41 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi ,

So glad to see this post featured! There are options but like you said the best approach is with a detailed analysis with the lender. Thank you!

Sep 09, 2016 10:01 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Some options are better known than others, Dorie Dillard ... or better understood.  Buyers need to get the facts as they pertain to their personal financial scenario.  There is no comparing with someone else's situation ...


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 01:42 AM
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego

Gene, thanks for laying out the options, #2 is interesting to me, but is that option only available at closing?

Sep 09, 2016 10:41 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Yes ... the lump sum option is available only at the time of Closing, Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor.  Borrowers can NOT get into paying the Mortgage, then pay a lump sum balance to pay off PMI at a later date.


I'm thinking this was your question?  If not, please let me know and I'll try again!


Good question,


Gene 

Sep 10, 2016 01:46 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Proof here that if Gene is the loan officer involved, all this & more is presented easy-peasy nice and breezy

Sep 09, 2016 11:38 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

I try to lay out the details in a manner which is easily understood, Richie Alan Naggar ... I'm thinking using your tag line will help me do that ...


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 01:47 AM
Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

It sure would be nice to avoid an extra charge at all possible.

Sep 10, 2016 01:12 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Definitely ... and an analysis to discover if that option is available to the Borrower should be done, Harry F. D'Elia ...


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 02:16 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Hi Gene

I knew about some of this, but not all, but it's very useful information for buyers who may be in a position to take advantage of these options.

Jeff

Sep 10, 2016 01:13 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Options,  mortgages, the details of each can change and change quickly, Jeff Dowler ... Buyers and clients alike must ask if options are available ... or if options may have come into play that would help them.  An analysis of their scenario is called for ...


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 02:24 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Gene- this is excellent information.  And, I would echo your sentiments, borrowers need to speak with someone like you first...someone who can lay everything out for them so they can come to the best decision. 

Sep 10, 2016 01:26 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

As you point out, Kathy Streib ... the final decision is theirs to make.  Getting the facts is so important to them being able to make a sound decision for themselves ...


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 02:25 AM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Go right to the source and of course of course, ask the questions that you endorse !

Sep 10, 2016 01:28 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Yes!  Being willing to ask the questions ... and contact their LO is important, Sally K. & David L. Hanson ... and it can payoff for them ...


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 02:26 AM
MaryKay Shumway
The Kellstrom Ray Agency, Inc. (Est. 1948) - Sister Bay, WI
Door County Wisconsin's Real Estate Expert

Gene, you are the money man!  Great post!

Sep 10, 2016 01:41 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Why thank you, MaryKay Shumway ...  I appreciate that!


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 02:27 AM
Margaret Goss
@Properties - Winnetka, IL
Chicago's North Shore & Winnetka Real Estate

Gene - thank you for spelling it out so cleanly - I never knew this.

Sep 10, 2016 02:08 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Makes me happy to know that I was able to share useful info, Margaret Goss ... thank you ...


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 02:27 AM
Diana White-Pettis
Bennett Realty Solutions - Upper Marlboro, MD
GRI, CDPE, CNE, WHC Upper Marlboro Homes for Sale

Gene,

This is an excellent post.  I learn something new in this business everyday.  Thanks for the valuable information that homebuyers should know.

Sep 10, 2016 03:27 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Your feedback is music to my ears, Diana White-Pettis ... and exactly what results I hope for.  Thank you ...


Gene

Sep 10, 2016 04:51 AM
Sham Reddy CRS
Howard Hanna RE Services, Dayton, OH - Dayton, OH
CRS

Most Realtors are not aware of option 3:

Lender-Paid Mortgage Insurance:  This option includes an Interest Rate that is higher than the normally available Interest Rate for the Borrower.  The higher rate charged helps The LENDER to pay for the Mortgage Insurance.  As a general rule of thumb, this option is less desirable for those intending to own that same Mortgage for 10 years or longer.

Sep 10, 2016 04:59 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Hopefully my post helped then, Sham Reddy ... and that in turn assists agents in advising their clients ...

Sep 12, 2016 01:39 AM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Gene, great information most people know of option #1 but not of options #2 &  #3, Endre

Sep 10, 2016 02:37 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

The options with more nuanced details are ones that often get overlooked or misunderstood, Endre Barath, Jr. ... hopefully the post inspires Borrowers to ask questions and seek facts ...


Gene

Sep 12, 2016 01:40 AM
Scott Thompson
Columbia Mortgage Plus - Blue Springs, MO
Commerical Finance - Blue Springs, MO

Quicken advertised a Lender Paid MI that did not affect rate awhile back, right?

From what I understand, that may be possible in some cases.

Not a bad idea to ask. 

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, as they say.

 

Make it a Great Day.

Sep 10, 2016 03:01 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

I've seen that ad too, Scott Thompson ... and have wondered how they are offering that option.  Typically, options such as this are never "given away" ... so an explanation from Quicken regarding this ad would need to be sought.


Gene  

Sep 12, 2016 01:44 AM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Congratulations on the featured post. I will share it with others.

Sep 10, 2016 09:57 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Thank you so much, Gita Bantwal ...

Sep 12, 2016 01:44 AM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Great examples of ways to deal with PMI that most consumers don't kow...and guessing some loan officers do not think to offer.

Sep 11, 2016 08:50 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

There's some work involved in offering this advice on options ... and explaining them, Sally K. & David L. Hanson.  Proving once again why it's so important to work with Agents and LOs that have experience, offer quality customer service, and are well-educated to all the options available ...


Gene 

Sep 12, 2016 01:46 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Very true that people can't wait to get rid of PMI but can't remember how after a few years. Great post & I'll share the info.

Sep 13, 2016 12:34 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Thanks, Lyn Sims  ... and you're right.  While I have this discussion at the time that a client is securing their loan, they have typically forgotten the info at a later date.  Or things have changed somewhat making the old info null and void.  


Hope the info proves helpful to those you share with ...


Gene

Sep 14, 2016 06:45 AM
Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
DFW FINE PROPERTIES - Flower Mound, TX
Selling Homes Changing Lives

Gene, you have a skilled talent that explains things on the level I can understand.
Thank you for sharing this outstanding and very educational information!!!

Congratulations on the feature!

Sep 17, 2016 06:27 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi

Thank you so much, Patricia Feager ... you're very kind.  So much of mortgage finance is nuanced and filled with asterisks these days ... tailor-made for the individual more than ever.  Explaining much of it can be challenging when speaking to a more broad audience.  Glad this info made sense .. and really appreciate your comment.  Thank you ...


Gene

Sep 20, 2016 01:31 AM