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Wolves At The Door

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with New Paradigm Partners LLC EB #1326335

We're watching a train wreck in slow motion. An agent we know, let's call him Ralph, has a new buyer couple under contract for an entry level home. They are inexperienced, but eager to get into their first house, and not terribly receptive to Ralph's advice.

 

Trust MeIn meeting with their lender on their FHA loan, the buyers mentioned that they were hoping to redo the kitchen after closing. "Oh, I can help you with that", said the lender. The FHA application went into the trash, and the buyers were led off into the realm of private lending, where it appears that they will make a tasty feast for the foul creatures that live there.

 

Ralph was first made aware of the switch when the buyers informed him that an appraisal wouldn't be required since they were going to do a "construction loan". Huh? Ralph initially thought they were talking about an FHA 203 loan, and was pretty sure an appraisal was necessary for that. But he eventually heard the phrase "private lender" and started to get really concerned. And it got a lot worse when he got a look at the loan estimate and promissory note.

 

Here's the details:

  • The purchase price of the home is $270K.
  • The lender is providing another $20K for renovation costs.
  • The loan is classified as a conventional loan, with a term of 6 months. There is no provision for an extension. At the end of 6 months, the buyers will have a balloon payment of $292K.
  • The interest rate for the loan is 7%.
  • The closing costs for the loan are $17K, including an $11K loan origination fee, making the effective APR 16.011%.

 

Assuming the buyers can refinance into something a bit more long-term after 6 months with a completed $20K kitchen renovation - keeping in mind that there has been no current appraisal on the property, and the buyers' credit is merely okay - they will have already spent $314K on the purchase and loan acquisition costs.

 

And if they can't refinance, the private lender can foreclose. When the buyers, at Ralph's insistence, asked about this exposure, the lender said not to worry, he'll get them into another loan at that time. And I'm sure the terms and conditions on that loan will be really special as well.

 

I'd guess all of this is legal, and that the proper disclosures have been provided and procedures have been followed. And I'm sure loans like this have a place with savvy investors who have their act together and can handle the risk. But that's not these buyers. And Ralph has done everything he can to make them aware of the risk they're taking on, but they aren't really listening.

 

The buyers still have a few days to get the message and cancel the contract. Keep your fingers crossed that they make the right decision.

Posted by
Mary & Dick

Mary & Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC
2601 S. Lemay Ave. #41
Fort Collins, CO 80525
970-689-4663
www.maryanddick.com

 

Data Source: IRES MLS

Comments(31)

Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
DFW FINE PROPERTIES - Flower Mound, TX
Selling Homes Changing Lives

Dick --- excuse me while I crawl around on the floor to find my eyeballs that popped out of my head while reading your horrid story! I sure hope I'm not making any typo's without my eyeballs!!! 

Sep 19, 2016 09:40 AM
Beth Atalay
Cam Realty and Property Management - Clermont, FL
Cam Realty of Clermont FL

Dick, I got a headache just thinking about this. I hope buyers don't go that route unless they enjoy train recks. This is just beyond sad! 

Sep 19, 2016 10:50 AM
Belinda Spillman
Aspen Lane Real Estate Colorful Colorado - Aurora, CO
Colorado Living!

Wow.  What rock did this guy slither out from under.  I thought these predatory lenders were a thing of the past.  

Sep 19, 2016 12:11 PM
Noah Seidenberg
Coldwell Banker - Evanston, IL
Chicagoland and Suburbs (800) 858-7917

That is about as close to a rip off as I can see Dick. If they go through with this they will figure it out when it is too late.

Sep 19, 2016 12:27 PM
Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

Oh man! This really is a train wreck. Someone needs to talk some sense into these buyers. This entire situation smells really bad. 

Sep 19, 2016 02:05 PM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning Dick Greenberg ,

This is a train wreck and I'm sorry to hear what this loan officer has got this couple wrapped up in! I'm with Noah Seidenberg ..smells like a rip off!!

Sep 19, 2016 09:30 PM
Georgie Hunter R(S) 58089
Hawai'i Life Real Estate Brokers - Haiku, HI
Maui Real Estate sales and lifestyle info

That's a loan officer I would back away from quickly and never deal with again.

Sep 20, 2016 05:28 AM
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Under no circumstance should they take this loan. First virtually all private mortgages stipulate they are not for owner occupied homes. Most are buy, fix and sell. Never to live in. I sure hope they wake up Dick Greenberg 

Sep 20, 2016 06:22 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I do hope that will be resolved favorably. Yes, I think it is legal but maybe not ethical to practice that way.

Sep 20, 2016 11:55 PM
Grant Schneider
Performance Development Strategies - Armonk, NY
Your Coach Helping You Create Successful Outcomes

Dick - this is a terrible predicament.  I hope the buyer stopped it.  Unfortunately, many are unasuming.

Sep 21, 2016 12:56 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Everyone - Thanks for your comments. Ralph's clients saw the light! They have chosen another lender, got an extension on their contract and are doing an FHA loan. Kudos to Ralph for helping these clients avoid an ugly ending.

Sep 21, 2016 01:29 AM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ

Just saw this comment.  Whew!  Good thing your clients "saw the light" and switched to a reputable lender with something between his ears!

Oct 04, 2016 01:50 PM
Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

Whew! You just want to smack them and say, "Snap out of it!" A train wreck indeed.

Sep 21, 2016 02:49 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Dick- I'm a few days late on this and very happy to see that Ralph was able to get his clients to open their eyes. Think of the others who will fall prey to this. 

Sep 22, 2016 07:49 AM
Gayle Rich-Boxman Fishhawk Lake Real Estate
John L Scott Market Center - Birkenfeld, OR
"Your Local Expert!" 503-739-3843

This lender gives wolves a bad name. They are very family-oriented, and this guy certainly ISN'T. Oh, lordy, I hope this doesn't cause "Ralph" to be thrown under the bus.

YIkes.

P.S. Just read Kathy's comment...all is better, I guess. Whew. 

Sep 23, 2016 01:54 AM
Marte Cliff

Gayle Rich-Boxman Fishhawk Lake Realtor (503)755-2905 Yes, he does give wolves a bad name. I've also seen people called pigs who gave pigs a bad name.


Are vultures family oriented? This lender and his cronies sound like vultures to me. 

Oct 04, 2016 09:22 AM
Sharon Tara
Sharon Tara Transformations - Portsmouth, NH
Retired New Hampshire Home Stager

Sounds like Ralph did a fine job. They are very lucky they listened to him!

Sep 23, 2016 03:51 AM
Margaret Rome Baltimore 410-530-2400
HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400 - Pikesville, MD
Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome

Thanks for the update and best wishes to the new buyers and a sigh of relief for Ralph.

Sep 23, 2016 09:31 AM
Terry McCarley
Coastal Real Estate - Cape Coral FL - Cape Coral, FL
REALTOR, SRES, CDPE - Cape Coral, FL

Glad to see the buyers finally listened!  I could clearly see the train wreck coming reading the initial post but fortunately that has been stopped dead in its tracks!

Sep 30, 2016 12:32 AM
Kimo Jarrett
Cyber Properties - Huntington Beach, CA
Pro Lifestyle Solutions

Amazing, some of the stories posted in AR, isn't it?

Oct 02, 2016 06:27 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Good for Ralph! I'm so glad he was able to knock some sense into their thick skulls. 

Oct 04, 2016 09:20 AM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Holy quacamole!  That does sound like quite the quagmire.  I will have to look for your follow-up story!

Oct 04, 2016 01:49 PM