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"Do You Think The Toilet Is Still Leaking?"

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

My client asked, "Do you think the toilet it still leaking?"

We were inspecting a house that had been vacant for some time.  It was being sold "As Is," with no repairs to be made to anything.

Sometimes that's because the bank won't do anything more to the house and you are buying the house as it comes. 

And sometimes it's because the seller knows there are a lot of problems and simply isn't in a position to fix them, or doesn't want to.

In Virginia there are no disclosure laws, and it is a so-called Caveat Emptor - buyer beware - state.

Sellers have no obligation to say anything about anything, so the home inspection is a very important part of the purchase process.

From the basement we could see under the powder room toilet.  I had already found it to be very loose on the floor, and had talked about how that could cause leaking, and damage.  Going downstairs we saw evidence of previous leaking.  Hence the question.

I HAD NOT FLUSHED IT YET FOR A REASON.

We saw the damage underneath and it was time for the flush test.  I flushed it twice.

Leaking is quite evident in person, but photos do not show what the water is doing very well.

But with a thermal camera the leaking and the results become colorfully evident.  Mighty Mo makes things come alive, and the images are definitive.

The dribbling onto the drain pipe and then wood framing is evident in the left image.  And where it ends up, and the resulting puddle on the floor can be seen in the right image.

Does the seller know about this?  Certainly.

My recommendation:  whether disclosure statements are required or not, a home inspection should be considered to be an essential part of the home-buying process.  Inspectors are there to test, and observe, and report.  The house is the house.  Houses reveal themselves.  The home inspector is not there to "kill the deal."  The home inspector is there to help the buyer with more understanding about what is being purchased.  Getting a home inspection is a buyer best practice.

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(7)

Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Jay Markanich This could be such an easy fix, but now with that trapped moisture, mold is sure to be a villain lurking for a party.

Oct 07, 2016 09:40 PM
Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

Good morning Jay,

Sound advice for the homeowner that is not knowledgable about the hidden problems.

Make yourself an astonishing day.

Oct 07, 2016 09:41 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

S&N - mold happens best with slow leaking over long periods of time.  Fortunately the house had been vacant for some time.  But there is damage.  Will mold continue with more leaking - yep.  But the repair now is not egregious.

Oct 07, 2016 09:41 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Most people do not understand how a wobbling toilet can be such a problem, Raymond.  This was a great object lesson because we could see underneath.

Oct 07, 2016 09:42 PM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Good morning Jay. Mighty Mo strikes again! No escape! Enjoy your day!

Oct 07, 2016 11:16 PM
Fred Hernden, CMI
Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque area Master Inspector

I hate that term "Kill the deal"... when in fact, the house itself kills the deal!

Love your last paragraph...

Oct 08, 2016 12:44 AM
Stephen Weakley
Nationwide Mortgage Services - Rockville, MD

Even in a non-buyer beware state, a home inspection is essential in my book.  It's amazing the amount of knowledge required across several trades to be a good inspector.  Also, having Mighty Mo in your back pocket doesn't hurt!

Oct 10, 2016 02:16 AM