Hi James,
Welcome to ACTIVE RAIN. You are going to love this site. Anway, there are a couple of service providers on this site that assist Realtors with the processing of their short sales, etc. You should search for short sales and see what pops up.
Sounds like you have already gotten them (the lender in 2nd position) well above the norm. Problem is - nothing can be done without their approval. As Arthur said - you may need to escalate to someone higher up in the food chain.
Looks like you are dealing with purchase money. Possibly the second is a HELOC? Seconds don't normally adjust unless they are a HELOC. So I am assuming that is what it is. Short Sales in California with seconds much less a HELOC are very difficult to close; that second will keep you chasing your tail. There are strict laws when it comes to purchase money. This is the first thing you want to find out. Is the second purchase money? If so, the seller is pretty much out of luck. They will be 1099'd and negotiating down to the 1k you are seeking will be a battle. Even if they were 1099 in the end - two options, claim insolvency or bankruptcy. 9x's out of 10 the homeowner does the BK.
Not sure how much of a discount you received so it may not make sense on this deal but one thing I have done is asked the buyer to pay this additional money. Fortunately mine did. And it did have to be cash at closing. It was 10k. I would attempt to resend your package to the second lender, financials etc and explain the lack of assets and find out what the buyer might pay in addition to the original offer and offer that to the lender as well in the letter. This may help. Also as I indciated previously, find out if the second is purchase money. A lesson learned for the next client that comes along : ) Good luck
Arthur - Thank you for the post, I am in the process of trying to speak with someone in a higher position
Bill - Thank you. I have thought about using a service like that and mabe after this one I will.
Bo - From what I gather here on AR I am doing better than the norm for them, I just don't understand.
Barbara - From what I can gather the second is a purchase money and is also an ARM, but I am checking on that, thank you for the information.
JAMES- You have a couple of problems with the first being the cash offer. Usually the lender is counting on being able to squeeze out more money when there's a cash offer because they figure to put more pressure on the parties involved. If they don't close they are losing $1,000 being that's what they usually get.
The second challenge is the frustration by your sellers. They should know that they will suffer a much harsher outcome if they decide to give up and foreclose. First of all, if they let the foreclosure run it's course they will leave themselves open to a deficiency judgment, for the difference of the sold price and the amount they owe, by the lenders involved. A foreclosure doesn't necessarily negate the debt. Some states even allow for the wages to be garnished until the debt is payed.
It is in the sellers best, long term, interest to try and get the second debt holder to accept something close to what they are seeking.
If there's no way to do that then you have to some how show that they second debt holder will lose more if there's a foreclosure that just taking the deal. Hopefully there are other properties that have sold for less.
Who is the lender for the second? It is possible they have PMI on the loan and they will get more money from the insurance.
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