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Romancing the Loan: Learn or Burn, Baby. Its A Different World Now

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Mortgage and Lending with Platinum Home Mortgage Company NMLS #238304

 I have an idea for a new soap opera. Please, Brad Andersohn, bring on the flip cam, and be my producer. The name of the new soap is "Romancing the Loan".

Stock is rising for mortgage brokers who KNOW HOW TO ROMANCE THE LOAN. In the past, very little emphasis was placed on these skills. Why? Because honestly, there were no skills required to close a loan except calcualting a debt to income ratio and matching it to the number the bank wanted.

No doc, low doc, what's up doc? Gimme a subprime, sub-slime, sublime loan, please.

Fund and games.

With so many other loan officers competing for business, the skill set that was naturally nurtured and emphasized in previous years was FINDING THE LOAN (not funding the loan). Hence, every day the average Joe came home from work and sorted through 10 pieces of mail from mortgage people proclaiming to have the lowest rates, or the lowest payments, and by the way? Don't you need some cash for a vacation, car, or remodel?

Has anyone else noticed that most of those mailings have disappeared?

Instead of focusing on reading tax returns, calculating income, and understanding basic lender guidelines, along with learning solid strategies that would get loans approved, everything was about marketing. Figuring everything else out was left to some well paid people we called processors, or some characters that have since disappeared from the drama: lender reps.

Dumb mistake. Bad move.

When it became clear in this little drama that closing a loan would require much more than casual flirting and a little bit of wink-wink, the fallout of mortgage brokers began. Some claimed it just wasn't FUN anymore. I guess FUN is when you spend the day addressing mailers?

With every sale precious, Realtors naturally have gravitated to loan officers who have learned the art of ROMANCING THE LOAN. There is a commission at stake here as well as a trusting buyer who has NO concept of how difficult it is to get financing in our current economic climate.

Is it better to pay the SKILLED LOAN OFFICER who can actually CLOSE THE LOAN, than  pay less for someone who is still licking envelopes?

 They say knowledge is POWER, and I cannot think of a more appropriate application of this than our industry today. It is not about who has the best marketing. It is not about who can network, who is related to you, or who did your loan in the past.

The cold hard harsh truth is this: closing ANY loan, no matter how "perfect" the scenario, requires a specific skill set that has nothing to do with marketing to borrowers or Realtors. The most successful mortgage broker in our office does zero marketing and Realtors flock to him.

If a loan officer is not equipped with the knowledge that it takes to market the loan TO THE LENDER, then your loan could be DOA.

The ones that will triumph in this drama (who are already emerging victorious) are the mortgage brokers who KNOW THEIR STUFF. Don't settle for someone who is hanging around waiting for things to change, and throwing spaghetti on the wall, hoping it will stick.

It probably won't.

 

Written by Janet Guilbault, California Mortgage Expert Based Out of the San Francisco Bay Area.

Confidential to FM:  For always being the inspiration, and the thought leader in the office. Enjoy the oranges, which were a small price to pay.

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Elizabeth Cooper-Golden
Huntsville Alabama Real Estate, (@ Homes Realty Group) - Huntsville, AL
Huntsville AL MLS

What a great post! Very well written and I loved it. So true about lenders and Realtors alike. The time has come in this industry for more professionalism all the way around.

At our company breakfast this morning, a local lender spoke and quoted: FHA no longer does loans for buyers with a FICO score of less than 580. He said the loans that were closed previously with scores lower than that are now at a 50% default rate. Yikes!

Signing up as a subscriber! You are an excellant writer. Thanks!

May 08, 2008 01:41 PM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender

Elizabeth, Thank you so much for the compliment. Your lender is correct, at least in California, I have no lender that will accept less than a 580 score on an FHA loan. Jeff Belonger, who is an FHA expert has told me that in other states, a less than 580 for FHA is acceptable.

I think every Realtor and every mortgage professional that survives this downturn will be better respected by the outside world. Those that refuse to move forward and learn skills are just going to fall by the wayside. There isn't enough room in the industry for them.

The more difficult the task, the greater the respect that goes to those that can accomplish that task. Maybe a new resect for our business is just around the corner.

I hope so.

May 08, 2008 02:27 PM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender

Wil: Well what do you know? There are NEW people getting into this crazy business. You are a brave soul, Wil, but someday you will look back and think it was good to get in when times are this tough. It trains you well because you must work your butt off. I wish you much success.

The top producer in our office that I mentioned? Until he came to our office he always processed his own loans. This has given him a huge advantage in the current market, and maybe this will help you as well.

I agree with you that lowest rate in wrong product is not good. You should write a post about this statement. It could be expanded upon and your perspective as someone new would be fresh and intersting. Think about it.

May 08, 2008 02:33 PM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender
Rick...don't tell me about the labor pains...show me the baby. LOL
May 08, 2008 02:35 PM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender
Alan..get trapped by a snake? You mean mortgage brokers are cold calling you? And they are snakes...meaning no good at what they do? I am sorry I am having a tough time replying to your comment, please forgive me for not being clear on what you have written.
May 08, 2008 02:40 PM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender
Lenn...where are you?
May 08, 2008 02:40 PM
Susan Walters
Keller Williams Realty, Ann Arbor, MI - Ann Arbor, MI
Janet, I particularly enjoyed your linguistic skills aside from your message.  Thank you for being so literate; it raises you up in my estimation.  I agree with your sentiment and work with a small time mortgage broker with a big company behind him.  He knows his stuff and works primarily from referral - that says a lot - particularly in our Michigan market these days!  I'd put his contact information right here but I think that is AR politically incorrect, so contact me if you want to know who can get you the best mortgage deal in the Ann Arbor, MI area, and even across the nation since his company can do deals in most states in the nation.  He closed my brother's deal in Minneapolis from Ann Arbor! 
May 08, 2008 03:02 PM
Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI
I had two local mortgage brokers cold call this week. It's a waste of their time. I have been using one guy almost all the time I've been in this business with no problems. I did give someone else a try once. And that loan failed to fund. I lost a client and a sale. I'm not changing! If a client shows up with their own mortgage broker, fine. I make them aware I am not responsible for their performance and then I follow up and document everything that has to do with the loan.
May 08, 2008 03:18 PM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender

Susan: I always beam when I hear someone talk about a mortgage broker this way. I actually did send someone this week to a mortgage broker in Florida by picking up her name off a Realtor post. So go on back to your blog and post about him. Put the address in there.

Heck, why don't you invite him into the Rain?

May 08, 2008 03:19 PM
Lisa Hill
Florida Property Experts - Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Beach Real Estate
This is so true! I'm afraid to let my buyers choose their own lender. I do everything I can to get them connected with a loan officer who knows what they're doing!
May 08, 2008 04:27 PM
Eric Bouler
Gardner Realtors, Licensed in La. - New Orleans, LA
Listening to your Needs
Wow. another nice post. I have really been busy of late but I leave the loans up to my loan person. She has more time for me which is great. It is much harder to get sales these days but they still come my way. My blog is starting to kick in. Hope to see you in the next class. I can get 75% to chose my lender since it almost always works. She is like 99/100 for me. 
May 08, 2008 05:25 PM
Susan Walters
Keller Williams Realty, Ann Arbor, MI - Ann Arbor, MI
Lisa, at the risk of hijacking Janet's blog entry here, the only time I was ever asked to be released from a buyer agency agreement was when the lender was far out of town, unknown to me, recommended by a family member, and I had to explain to the buyers key issues about borrowing.  What is wrong with that picture?  Particularly when my favorite expression regarding lending is, "That is a question for the lender; it is not my specialty."  There were many, many reasons the deal failed for me but lack of communication and too many cooks in the kitchen were among the reasons.
May 08, 2008 05:51 PM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender

Ah....the old too many cooks in the kitchen. I love that expression, but even more I love your other expression " That is a question for the lender."

I have been on the other side of that often when borrowers ask me to help them negotiate with sellers, if the house is priced "correctly" , if house is in the right school district, etc, etc.

Often I am tempted to answer because honestly? I can easily fall back into being a Realtor because that is how I started in the business. I have to bite my tongue and say, "that is a question for your Realtor"

May 08, 2008 06:05 PM
Johnny Schiro
Icon Real Estate - Houston, TX

I'm surprised to hear so many salespeople so roundly reject cold calling & advertising. Of course most established realtors have long-time relationships with experienced mortgage reps; those realtors are a major challenge. But what about the not-so-established agents? For the past year, I've pushed all of our loan officers to step up their realtor marketing....in my opinion, this is the best climate for it. How many of you realtors have seen a closing go bad due to financing recently? What better time for a new loan rep to get their foot in the door?

When I started this business as a loan officer, it was really tough to pick up new realtors -- everyone had access to the same easy loans, so why would they need to give me a shot? At least now loan reps with legimimate skill & experience have a well-deserved advantage to advertise.

Maybe we're just playing a different game here in Houston?

May 08, 2008 07:12 PM
Christy Powers
Keller Williams Coastal Area Partners - Pooler, GA
Pooler, Savannah Real Estate Agent
I love the title of the post. I like getting out and meeting with the people I will work with or having a chance meeting. 
May 09, 2008 02:23 AM
Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

I'm parked to read Lenn's answer.

Another amazing post Janet!

May 09, 2008 03:11 AM
Scott Geary
Infinity Home Mortgage Company Inc - Allentown, PA
Your Pennsylvania Mortgage Source

True, True and, yes True! I can't tell you how long I have waited for the day that truly being knowledgeable and 'up on your stuff' would count for something. I think your right, that day is here! I don't hear alot about cell phone bills and car payments being made for many of the local refferal sources in trade for business being given to our valleys largest mortgage originator. In fact, theres alot of whining about the loss of such spiffs. The playing field has been leveled by the market. Now if the government can just keep their fingers out of the pie, we'll be in good shape. Well done Janet - Congrats on the feature!

May 09, 2008 04:11 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Janet.  Busy, busy.  I was in CE for 8 hours yesterday, meaning 12 hours out of my home office, meaning little time for ActiveRain. 

About mortage referrals, I'll send a private mail.  Too long for a comment 

 

 

 

May 10, 2008 11:48 PM
Janet Guilbault
Platinum Home Mortgage Company - Walnut Creek, CA
San Francisco Bay Area Direct Mortgage Lender

Lenn: Thanks, and to all of my readers: I will share what Lenn writes via a new post or here on this one.

May 11, 2008 01:40 AM
Lola Audu
Lola Audu~Audu Real Estate~Grand Rapids, MI Real Estate - Grand Rapids, MI
Audu Real Estate~Grand Rapids, MI ~Welcome Home!

Janet, this was a very well deserved Feature post.  I'm so thankful to work with competent and experienced mortgage lenders.  That partnership is one of the most important and critical aspects of the home purchasing process.  I never fail to emphasize that to potential homeowners.

May 16, 2008 06:44 AM