Affects of meth - Are we at risk?

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 We had a luncheon Wednesday and  a speaker talked about meth. She told us about the affects on people and on homes. I didn't realize that one party  with about 20 people in a house could be enough to contaminate the house. A meth inspector told us that a moderately contaminated 3 bedroom house could cost $33,000 to repair. Some houses and their contents are not able to be saved after they have been exposed and the owners end up with nothing. The peole that contaminated the home may be require to pay the buyer back, but in most cases that doesn't happen due to the persons lack of money.

The probelm is increasing, and it is affecting the environment as well. Place they dump the waste include parks, water sources, campgrounds, and dumpsters. Leaving waste around can endanger curious childen. Contaminating the water supply is a risk to us all. Rural areas like ours are at risk because of the distance between houses and the difference in jurisdictions due to the reservation in our area. We also have an influx of new people in the area due to energy exploration and this means that people don't necessarily know their neighbor.

Here is a link to a site where you can order a dvd on the effects of meth.

I would really recommend a meth test to anyone buying or renting. Also landlords need to check their homes before renting to a new tenant. The meth inspector told us the standard test is about $120 and takes 3 to 4 days to send to the lab and get the test back.

 

I wrote this on a past blog

Recently another real estate agent and I were looking into buying a rental property. We had concerns about mold asbestos and the possibility of meth contamination. In looking into the costs we could incur I found some interesting information. Living in a home that has meth contamination can lead to the lungs turning into to gel and expelling the lungs over time due to the chemicals such as anhydrous ammonia. It would be worth the cost of a test to be sure the house is not contaminated because some items that may need to be replaced , include flooring duct work water heaters appliances, sinks, and toilets. Signs of meth include red stains strong cat urine or ammonia smell rock salt hydrogen peroxide anhydous ammonia blacked out or foiled windows ephedrine and lithium batteries. The house could cost $100000 or more to repair. The house may even have to be torn down and properly disposed of. All work needs to be done by a qualified professional. Some states are making it a law that the seller has to disclose knowledge of meth in the house. What experiences do you have? What legislation do we need to have?

 

 

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Joe Virnig
RE/MAX Gold Coast REALTORS, Ventura County, California - Ventura, CA
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Holy smokes!  I'd never thought about meth contamination in this light. 

May 10, 2008 02:45 AM #1
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Julie Kippen
Vernal, UT

It realy concerns me and I think that a test is the only safe thing to do.

May 10, 2008 02:55 AM #2
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Rosemary Brooks
BMC Real Estate - 209-910-3706 - Stockton, CA
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WOW! I never give meth a thought, but this is good information to know.  I agree with your post, there should be something done about it.

May 11, 2008 11:58 AM #3
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Barbara S. Duncan
RE/MAX Advantage - Searcy, AR
GRI, e-PRO, Executive Broker, Searcy AR

Meth labs are a big problem.  We can't have enough warnings about their dangers.

May 11, 2008 12:08 PM #4
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Julie Kippen
Vernal, UT

I didn't think about how much of a problem this was either. I guess I thought the house would be contaminated if there was a lab, but not just from a lot of people using meth in a house. As much as meth use is increasing I am afraid of what this could mean to the housing market and to our environment.

May 11, 2008 03:53 PM #5
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Erik Hitzelberger
RE/MAX Alliance - Louisville REALTOR-Luxury Homes - Louisville, KY
Louisville - Middletown Real Estate

Julie - This is a link to the DEA database for homes that have had known meth labs.  You should also check local links as we have seen some discrepencies. 

 

May 11, 2008 03:58 PM #6
Rainmaker
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Julie Kippen
Vernal, UT

Erik, thanks for the information. I wil check out that site.

May 11, 2008 04:06 PM #7
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Carol Judd
New Star Real Estate - Vernal, UT
Vernal Utah Real Estate

Good information.  I want to get more information and I would definitely do a test on a house.

May 12, 2008 09:04 AM #8
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Julie Kippen
Vernal, UT

I ordered the informational packet and dvd from KUED tv. I am looking forward to checking it out. They used part of the dvd for the presentation.

May 12, 2008 09:15 AM #9
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Jeff Stinson
Kasteel Property Management - Property Manager - Springville, UT

I've learned a few things about meth testing and there are some things people need to be careful of.  I'm a property manager in Utah and I've talked extensively with my attorney about Meth.  One major pit fall people get stuck in all the time is if you have a need to get a place inspected make sure you tell the inspecting company that you don't expect them to find anything wrong and if they do you will not be hiring them to clean it up.  You will only pay them for the inspection.  Inspectors have been known to report their "negative findings" to the state immediately.  That way the state is on your back to get it cleaned up and the inspector is standing there ready to clean it up for a very hefty fee.  You will also find that they will be more honest in their reports if they know they will not be hired for the job of cleaning it up. - They have a very hard time being honest if they think they will get clean up work out of it.

The other problem is there is no science involved when the different states determine what is and is not safe levels of Meth.  Each state is different and nobody even knows at what point Meth contamination is dangerous.  In Utah the rules are so ridiculous that if someone had sat on a couch where meth had been smoked, then they got up and came over to your house and sat on your couch you would probably fail a meth test and your place would need to be decontaminated.  It is a little ridiculous, I think at those levels we have all been exposed to Meth and when we are talking $6-$10 thousand to decontaminate a place the states need to be sure it is necessary before requiring it of someone.

If you'd like to ask me questions or contact me please do.  My website is www.stonebridgerealestate.net.

Jeff Stinson

Property Manager

May 12, 2008 10:51 AM #10
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Julie Kippen
Vernal, UT

Thanks for the information. That is really important to know.

I would like to be able to get an honest report about a house and know if the level is going to be high enough to make someone seriously ill.

 

May 12, 2008 03:07 PM #11
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Stacey

Information on meth use in Utah is also available at www.endmethnow.org

May 13, 2008 09:51 AM #12
Rainmaker
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Julie Kippen
Vernal, UT

Stacey, Thank you the link. It was an informative site.

May 13, 2008 10:16 AM #13
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Laura Moore Godek
Laura Moore Godek, PC - McHenry, IL

I appreciate the information on what to look for.

May 21, 2008 12:25 AM #14
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Mary Strang
Viroqua, WI

What exactly causes the contamination? Is it the mix of chemicals? Currently this is not a problem in my area.

May 21, 2008 12:52 AM #15
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Julie Kippen
Vernal, UT

I found two very good sites to check out. They mention the gas created by cooking  meth and how it contaminates the home. In looking at the sites I have to wonder how many homes and even outdoor areas are contaminated and we don't even know about it. I think there are more places than are on the DEA site mentioned above in the comment by Erik Hitzelberger.

http://www.streetdrugs.org/methlabs2.htm

http://www.minnesotafireservice.com/pictures_meth.html

May 21, 2008 08:42 AM #16
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