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A Tiny House Is A Tiny House Is A Tiny House and An ADU Is An ADU.

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A Tiny House Is A Tiny House Is A Tiny House

and An ADU Is An ADU!

 

 

The question here is to discern between a "TINY HOUSE" and an "ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT" (ADU). Many folks are of the opinion that a Tiny House is the same as an Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU).

 

A Tiny House is a small home and/or custom made travel trailer with wheels and axles (top photo) that can be moved from one location to another. However, much like a Park Model (photo below) it is still an RV. Here's how RVIA defines an RV.

 

"The Recreation Vehicle Industry Association (RVIA) is the national trade association representing recreation vehicle (RV) manufacturers and their component parts suppliers who together build more than 98 percent of all RVs produced in the U.S."

"An RV is a vehicle designed as temporary living quarters for recreational, camping, travel or season use.  RVs may be motorized (motor homes) or tow-able (travel trailers, folding camping trailers and truck campers).  Off-road vehicles are not included in the RV definition."

 

                              

 

And yes it is true. RV's can come in some pretty unusual shapes and sizes. But it doesn't necessarily mean they are allowed to be used as an ADU on a private lot/parcel. Some RVer's can get pretty creative but at the end of the day they still have to be street legal and be able to pass safely under overpasses, trees and electrical lines.

 

                             

 

As many of us know by now an "ADU" by contrast is a permanent structure built on a permanent foundation be it "Factory built" i.e. "HUD Manufactured", "Modular", "Prefab" or "Site/Stick Built". (Photo below)

 

                

15x36 HUD Manufactured Home by CREST 'BACKYARD' HOMES mfg by SILVERCREST

 

Or 2 story (bottom HUD Manufactured 2nd floor site built) "Hybrid"

 

                    

 

 

I question whether or not RVIA has or would ever recognize them unless they were built to RVIA standards. I also wonder if RV & trailer parks would allow them unless they did meet RVIA standards. The question of safety comes to mind first and foremost. Would or could they be a threat to others in an RV or trailer park?

 

 

 

It is a fact that Park Models, RV's, Travel Trailers, etc. are not permitted as permanent structures in most Cali building and zoning jurisdictions. In fact a park model cannot be affixed (permanently installed) even in a Manufactured Home Community let alone on a private lot/parcel. So I don't expect to see "Tiny Houses" to be allowed anytime soon albeit they are being looked at very closely.

 

The question really is, is there a place for "Tiny Houses" and if so when, where and how?

 

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John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

Tiny Houses will have their challenges in the coming years I think Sheila Anderson Being that their largely home grown and not certified nor recognized by REHI or any other govermental affiliation I think they have their work cut out for them. 

That stated, I have been reading and seeing snippets on Tiny Houses about designated areas that will allow the development of them and some that have already sanctioned them but I don't know where either.

However, ADU's are another story altogether and are being legalized in many states and building jurisdictions Nationwide. It's only a matter of time before this goes from a cottage Industry (pun intended) to a full scale growth industry.

Jun 20, 2017 08:33 AM
Belinda Spillman
Optician - Aurora, CO
Colorado Living!

I'm an not convinced that Tiny Houses are a good investment.  The appeal is there especially for millenials but I would think the walls would tend to close in after a couple months.  And then there is the issue of where to put them....

Featured in BananaTude!

Jun 20, 2017 09:00 AM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

I totally agree Belinda Spillman Tiny Houses are a sweeping trend now no doubt and will probably go with the wind at some point leaving only a few purveyors who've figured out ways to capatilize on them and make them a little more like regular travel trailers. Just my thought.

Jun 20, 2017 09:34 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Retired Home Stager/Redesign

                 

                        Thank you John DL Arendsen 

Jun 24, 2017 05:38 PM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

And thank you Kathy Streib for the recognition and helping us spread the word about this.

Jun 24, 2017 10:02 PM
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

I'm with Kathy Streib - amazing (and scary) photo! Congratulations on your feature in Kathy's weekly list of must reads! 

Jun 25, 2017 04:12 AM
Eva B. Liland Century 21 Doug Anderson
Century 21 Doug Anderson - Lancaster, CA
Glad to be of Service 661-714-1643

I have heard most of the terms being used but never heard the term ADU. In regards to tiny houses, in my mind they are always mobile.

Jun 25, 2017 04:36 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor,CRS,ePro ,

I'm so glad that Kathy Streib featured your post in her "Ah-ha" moments for the week! Love the photo and a great explanation. The last photo blew me away! 

Jun 25, 2017 05:16 AM
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

John DL Arendsen You are the go-to source for ADU information when we will encounter client inquiries in the future.

Jun 25, 2017 05:33 AM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

Big thanks Lise Howe !

Jun 25, 2017 05:49 AM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

Most "TINY HOUSES" are mobile Eva B. Liland with Century 21 Doug Anderson An "ADU" can be "TINY"  but it can't be "MOBILE"  in Cali. They have to be installed, be they HUD MANUFACTURED HOME, MODULAR, FACTORY or SITE/STICK, on a "PERMANENT FOUNDATION", PERMITTED and INSPECTED by the local jurisdiction to be legal.

Or if they were built without a permit an "AS BUILT PERMIT" may be obtained in many if not most building jurisdictions rendering theim "LEGAL NON-CONFORMING".

Jun 25, 2017 06:00 AM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

And correct you would be Gabe Sanders 

Jun 25, 2017 06:01 AM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

Thanks Dorie Dillard albiet I'm proud and happy to be taken as Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor,CRS,ePro it's actually me. LOL But thanks for the comment and compliment.

Jun 25, 2017 06:03 AM
John DL Arendsen

Oh how right you are Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor,CRS,ePro !

Jun 25, 2017 10:10 PM
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® CRS,ABR,PSA,RCS-D, CFSP

John, it's hard for those out of state to differentiate handsome CA Coastal Men, we all look like Brad Pitt to them. 

Jun 25, 2017 07:29 AM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

I'd be more than happy and proud to work with you folks anytime Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI NMLS#1483386 

Jun 25, 2017 06:04 AM
Kristin Johnston - REALTOR®
RE/MAX Platinum - Waukesha, WI
Giving Back With Each Home Sold!

WOnderful post! I can see why Kathy chose to highlight it this week!

Jun 25, 2017 07:43 AM
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® CRS,ABR,PSA,RCS-D, CFSP
Big Block LPT Realty 858.232.8722 - San Diego, CA
Coastal San Diego, Veteran's & Retirees Services

This is a great article John DL Arendsen and after having you on our Podcast, I have a deeper appreciation for the need for this type of living unit(s).

Podcast Episode #099 Answers to the Housing Crisis w/ John DL Arendsen

Jun 25, 2017 08:46 AM
John DL Arendsen

Had a blast Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor,CRS,ePro Just wating for episode #100!! LOL! Train probably already left the station.

Jun 25, 2017 10:12 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Hi John

Well I certainly learned alot in your post. I was pretty sure I understood the differences between Tiny Houses and ADUs. Wonder if HGTV will get on the ADU bandwagon?!

Jeff

Jun 25, 2017 09:11 AM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

Kathy Streib is a very sharing soul Kristin Johnston - REALTOR® Can't thank her enough.

Jun 25, 2017 10:09 PM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

HGTV needs to get on board on this for sure Jeff Dowler it's going from a cottage industry (pun intended) to a major growth industry almost overnight. 

Jun 25, 2017 10:14 PM
Fred Sweezer Sr. CMI, LLC.
Hud Certified 203K Consultant - Long Beach, CA
HUD 203k Consultant

ADU's have become the answer to the low housing stock, thanks for your post.

Aug 31, 2022 10:52 PM