A Cat and a Mouse...

By
Real Estate Broker/Owner with Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408

I am a condo broker, which only means that I am too lazy to deal with anything other than condos :)

One of the issues in condos - pets. Condos have restrictions. That’s simply the nature of the beast. I digress here, but when I see a 32-page Rules & Regulations for a condo on the beach, I shrug at the fought, that it is twice as long as the Constitution of the United States.

Too often I am trying to make sense of the restrictions, and too often I fail miserably. Let us look at pet policies.

Some of our condos do not allow pets, period. Interestingly, that often would include fish in fish tanks.

They might be swimming too loud?

The condo where I live allows 2 pets with the combined weight of 20 lbs. I guess it means that if you want to have two pets, they should be a cat and a mouse.

Recently I had a buyer with 3 cats. As we all know, they do not go outside, do not poop outside, do not bark loudly… You simply would never know that a neighbor has cats… and yet every condo I called, which normally allows 2 pets, and ask if they would consider allowing the lady to have 3 cats, the answer was “No”.

I spoke to a manager of a condo, which has a strict “No Pets” policy. She did not look happy. A new owner showed up with a dog, they said "no way", he sued, and they lost. He had what they call ESA (Emotional Support Animal), and they could not say “no” to him.

So, when my buyers are asking for a condo with no pets policy because they do not like pets, I am careful. They may have “No pets” policy, but it does not mean you will not have a pet at next door neighbor.

Usually the reason for these policies is that pets may be nuisance, too noisy… Well, nothing can compare with kids. If there is any logic, then we should soon see “no kids” policies.

Image by jeffreyw  via Flickr.com/creativecommons
---------------------------------------------------------

Call me if you are looking for condos in Daytona beach area with or without kids pets

close

This entry hasn't been re-blogged:

Re-Blogged By Re-Blogged At
Topic:
Just for Fun
Groups:
Realtors®
All Things Florida
Condos, What you need to know?
Condo Specialists
Advice for Buyers

Post a Comment
Spam prevention
Spam prevention
Show All Comments
Ambassador
1,720,996
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

William Feela - you are right. It is always give and take

Aug 09, 2017 11:40 AM #5
Ambassador
1,720,996
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Jill Sackler - it is a delicate issue. Some of the condo Boards have the right to say "no" to any buyer, and they do not have to provide a reason for that. So, no, they can't say "No" to a disabled person with a service dog, because they would say it was not because of disability.

And even worse with ESA. Am I to be blamed if I tell them not to bring the dog with them, and avoid this topic until they are the owners, as otherwise they would never become owners in this condo?

Aug 09, 2017 11:43 AM #6
Ambassador
2,751,408
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Jon - We deal with that here too, and it gets complicated when ESAs, whatever those really are, are involved. Similar lawsuits, same result - and no clear guidelines for qualifying an ESA. But I'd personally rather live around animals than people - they're generally more agreeable.

Aug 09, 2017 01:58 PM #7
Rainmaker
4,309,210
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Jon,

Ron and I see plenty of ESA's on flights with us.  I have to say that they are all well behaved.  What a funny tjought of a no-kid policy!  Is that your cat?  Beautiful.  By the way my cat weghs 9.9 lbs, so I can have two in that condo.  Is their a scale monitor that weighs the pets?  A

Aug 09, 2017 04:00 PM #8
Ambassador
1,720,996
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Ron and Alexandra Seigel  - Alexandra,

No weighing. They require that you bring a letter from a vet stating that the wieght at maturity is so and so.

The cat is from Flickr.com. I wouldn't be able to get a mouse around here. And my cat would probably not know what to do with a mouse besides playing with it.

Aug 09, 2017 07:24 PM #9
Ambassador
1,720,996
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Dick Greenberg - agree about dealing with pets rather than people. 100%

Aug 09, 2017 07:25 PM #10
Anonymous
Ricardo Calvo

Maybe you haven´t even thought that in the same condos where domestic animals, even fishes, don´t have any right versus humans, including noisy children; humans don´t have any right versus any possible turtle down there by the beach.

Aug 10, 2017 07:33 AM #11
Ambassador
1,720,996
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Ricardo - meaning that the beach is Turtles' Condo? :)

Aug 10, 2017 10:19 AM #12
Ambassador
1,720,996
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

I believe in this era, when I sometimes feel like the party that determines where and how to live, is actually a pet, not pet policies are a dying breed. Service animals, ESA, we simply can't stop it. With the polulation getting older, it would be an growing pain.

And why should we deprive people, who lost their spuses and feel so lonely, the pleasure of having a loving creature at home? Isn't it cruel?

Aug 10, 2017 10:24 AM #13
Ambassador
3,912,547
Jeff Dowler, CRS
Solutions Real Estate - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Hi Jon

Pet policies are, indeed, a tough issue and they vary widely. Anyone with a pet needs to be especially careful when purchasing where a policy exists, but to also understand those communities where thy will come against pets, especially dogs, even if they are pet-less or perhaps don't like animals. You can't make assumptions about these policies.

Jeff

Aug 12, 2017 08:54 AM #14
Ambassador
1,720,996
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Jeff Dowler - it seems like many of these policies would have to be changed. 30-years ago pets were not a big issue. There wasno culture of having pets and cherishing them more than people, which we see now. Pets had a more utilitarian purpose, and while were to some extent family members, were not the head of huseholds (by importance).

Law are changing, and having a dog in a no pet place becoming easier. WHere will it take us?

Aug 12, 2017 10:03 AM #15
Rainmaker
1,402,270
Kat Palmiotti
Grand Lux Realty, Monroe NY, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com - Monroe, NY
The House Kat

It's very difficult to find a condo/co-op or rental that will allow pets, especially dogs. But fish? I just don't see any reason not to allow fish or similar animals. 

Aug 13, 2017 03:59 AM #16
Ambassador
1,720,996
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Kat Palmiotti - I am with you. Why fish is the problem? I heard is because if the tanks leaks, you may flood a unit under, but then following this logic we need to eliminate toiles and buthtubs, and running water.

Aug 13, 2017 07:58 AM #17
Ambassador
1,905,538
Hannah Williams
Re/Max Eastern inc. - Philadelphia, PA
Expertise NE Philadelphia & Bucks 215-953-8818

love this post Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL  I have had neighbors that complain about every thing ..If they could they would make it  a TV restricted

Aug 14, 2017 03:59 PM #18
Ambassador
1,720,996
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Hannah Williams - shish... they may hear you and restrict TV :)

Aug 14, 2017 08:24 PM #19
Rainmaker
126,363
Stavrula "Sam" Crafa, RNC,GRI, CDPE, PSA
Future Home Realty - Seminole, FL
Providing the integrity and service you deserve.

I would take pets over other peoples kids any day 

Aug 18, 2017 08:14 PM #20
Rainmaker
565,078
Denise Hamlin, Broker/Owner
Cardinal Realty ~ 319-400-0268 - Iowa City, IA
Helping Happy Clients Make Smart Choices

Interesting post Jon. I don't understand the hard line attitude towards pets with some condo associations. Interesting point about the ESA's too. Aren't most pets support animals in some shape or form? (Even if they aren't recognized as such).

 

Aug 19, 2017 12:48 PM #21
Rainmaker
1,217,262
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL ...

For my oldest son and his family, the "20 lb. rule" would mean they have to leave their beloved cat ... my Grandcat ... Mr. Marmalade behind (and that won't happen ... ever!)  

Mr. Marm weighs in at a rompin' stompin' 23 lbs.  

Yep!  We can grow 'em big in Chicagoland!  

Gene

Aug 21, 2017 10:33 AM #22
Ambassador
3,182,665
Debe Maxwell, CRS
www.iCharlotteHomes.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte Homes for Sale - Charlotte Neighborhoods

Oh, you're preaching to the choir, Jon! It does not make any sense at all to me - with the exception of those folks having 5 or more pets that they don't keep clean (I'm talking litter boxes, etc.). Now, that makes sens but, limiting how many noisy cats you can have seems a bit crazy to me - not allowing the lady to have 3 cats is so unfair.

I had to laugh out loud at the soon-to-be-limited kids!  Now, they ARE noisy and do use the pool loudly, bang on walls, etc.!!

Sep 05, 2017 08:30 AM #23
Ambassador
3,182,665
Debe Maxwell, CRS
www.iCharlotteHomes.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte Homes for Sale - Charlotte Neighborhoods

Just checking in on you to see what you'll be doing the next day or two - whatever it is, stay safe and out of harm's way, Jon!

Sep 09, 2017 06:33 PM #24
Post a Comment
Spam prevention
Show All Comments

What's the reason you're reporting this blog entry?

Are you sure you want to report this blog entry as spam?

Ambassador
1,720,996

Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL

Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices
Ask me a question
*
*
*
*
Spam prevention

Additional Information