Mary Mc Knight at BloodhoundBlog UNCHAINED Social Media Markting Conference, brought to you by Zillow.com

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Mortgage and Lending with San Diego VA Home Loans/858-777-9751
Today was the pre-conference "bonus" day at Bloodhound Blog Unchained Social Media Marketing Conference, brought to you by Zillow.com. We opened up with the incomparable Mary Mc Knight of RSSPieces.com. Mary is regarded as one of the foremost experts on weblogging and SEO solutions for the real estate and lending community. Mary delivered a sobering punch when she pleaded for REALTORs to focus their weblogging efforts on productive activities:

Comments (24)

Brian Block
RE/MAX Allegiance, Managing Broker/Branch Vice President - McLean, VA
Northern Virginia & D.C. Real Estate

Brian, this has certainly (but not surprisingly) sparked some controversy.  I enjoyed reading Jonathan Washburn's extensive comments above.  While I'm not an expert on these matters by any means, I typically follow this advice:

Do not worry about your SEO!!! Let the blog platform providers take care of that.  Just focus on creating great content; if you do, the incoming links and consumers will come.

It seems to be working well enough.

May 18, 2008 11:39 PM
Brian Brady
San Diego VA Home Loans/858-777-9751 - San Diego, CA
858-777-9751

Good comments, Jon.  I've noticed no follow tags on many of my posts, when I place a link to my outside blog.  (When I write a teaser and write "read more").

Why does that happen, Jon?

May 19, 2008 01:24 AM
Nick Bastian
Realty Executives - Tempe, AZ
Real Estate Agent - Tempe

Another great reason for gatherings like this is to get everyone thinking. I love it.. :-)

May 19, 2008 01:31 AM
Jon Washburn
Seattle, WA

Brian, I just took a look at your most recent "teaser" post: "Loan Officer Survival Guide"  and there was not a "nofollow" tag on your "Continued" link.  Here is the html for the last sentance or so of the post: 

I didn&rsquo;t learn one new idea from Chris&rsquo; book, just a <a href="http://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/?p=2985" title="bhb" target="_blank"><strong>CONTINUED</strong></a><br />

Here is what a link with a nofollow tag looks ilke:

<li><a rel="tag" rel="nofollow" href="/blogs/azbrady/tags/arizona%20real%20estate">arizona real estate (2)</a></li>

If you send over the post in question I can take a look at it

P.S. If anyone ever wants to see for themselves whether a link has a no follow tag attributed to it, you can right click any web page
and select "view page source" from the dropdown window, then do a keyword find (CTRL + F) for the word "nofollow

(On all ActiveRain blog posts you will notice quite a few "nofollow" tags to internal pages on ActiveRain, we do this to show Google what the important pages are for them to index.)

May 19, 2008 04:33 AM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

This stuff is all so technical. You know I don't think I have EVER heard 2 SEO experts agree on anything! Why? That's simple.....they are trying to sell us something.

Here's what I do to achieve EXCELLENT Serps. I write about what I know...real estate in Poinciana and I do it 3 to 4 times a week. That's it. No keyword stuffing, no long/short tail chasing, no key word density thingies. Just plain old good content posted consistantly. It works and it's simple.

May 19, 2008 05:41 AM
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker

ActiveRain is NOT the almighty Purple Pill that can cure all the ills of the world, let alone a slower real estate market. There are any number of things that can distract us from focusing our energy on activities that lead to generating revenue. So the advice to apportion our time wisely is good advice.

However, I personally take offense to Mary's comment:

"You are helping someone who is not really helping you back"

Since its very inception, ActiveRain has been solely focused on providing a network of value and benefits to its members. As someone who has the unique perspective of being on both sides - as first a licensed RE agent and member, and now as a paid AR Staff - I can honestly say it's our genuine drive and desire to serve and help our members that motivates us and fuels our purpose.

May 19, 2008 08:55 AM
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker

Oh, and so I guess, the whole premise behind conversation blogging is off base? If i get any consumer-generated comments to my post, I should delete them immediately? Or better yet, I will just disable the ability to comment altogether. Let's forget engaging our readers. Let's forget about involving them in the dialog. YIKES!

May 19, 2008 09:01 AM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

hhhhmmmmm.....  interesting..... I am still learning so much of this... and even though I respect Mary, I am confused and baffled by some of her comments. And I think Jon brings up some good points. The biggest one....  more comments on your blog hurt you.  That just doesn't make sense... I thought google liked lots of comments, especially on outside blogs.

On another note... AR has certainly helped my business.

Overall..... yes, a good platform will help in searches....  such as RSS Pieces or AR.....  but not to worry about key words?  I try both keywords and quality content.  If keywords weren't important, then why use these keyword tools that tell you what keyowrds to use or how a consumer found you..... why confuse me even more now, when I thought I was getting the hang of this.....  ;o(

jeff belonger

May 19, 2008 03:30 PM
Brian Brady
San Diego VA Home Loans/858-777-9751 - San Diego, CA
858-777-9751

Thanks Jon.  Do you ever put a no follow tag on any members' posts?

May 19, 2008 07:34 PM
John Novak
Keller Williams Realty The Marketplace - Las Vegas, NV
Henderson, Las Vegas and Summerlin Real Estate

When I was getting my finance degree at UNLV, I enjoyed the subjectivity of some of the accounting exercises. Depending on how one applied GAAP, or which type of depreciation was chosen, the bottom-line results could be totally different. It was like one puzzle with many different solutions -- but there was always one 'most correct' solution.

SEO seems to be the same way. Mary and Jonathan both make compelling points, and I'm sure if we brought two more SEO people into the conversation we would have four viable strategies. So how do real estate agents and lenders know who's right? Which SEO strategy is the 'most correct?'

May 19, 2008 08:40 PM
Brian Brady
San Diego VA Home Loans/858-777-9751 - San Diego, CA
858-777-9751

So how do real estate agents and lenders know who's right? Which SEO strategy is the 'most correct?'

I think you go with results, John.

May 20, 2008 01:25 AM
Brad Carroll
Dakno Marketing - Knightdale, NC
Real Estate Web Designer

A few people asked me to chime in on this post. I started writing a comment and it just kept getting longer and longer. Instead of leaving a long comment on this post, I decided to address this issue on my ActiveRain blog. After all, I wouldn't want to leave a long comment and risk hurting the keyword density of this post (only kidding) ;-)

May 21, 2008 03:58 AM
Brad Carroll
Dakno Marketing - Knightdale, NC
Real Estate Web Designer

Brian, Here is a link to the post that i referenced above. I typically don't put links in other peoples blog so I am putting a link here in a seperate comment. Feel delete this comment if you would rather me not link. No hurt feelings here.

May 21, 2008 04:01 AM
Brian Brady
San Diego VA Home Loans/858-777-9751 - San Diego, CA
858-777-9751
I would normally delete it Brad but I think it's an important debate
May 21, 2008 04:45 AM
Brad Carroll
Dakno Marketing - Knightdale, NC
Real Estate Web Designer

Hi Brian, Thanks. I am interested to hear other people's opinion on this as well. I am going to follow this post to hear other people's take on the issue.

May 21, 2008 05:13 AM
Tim O'Keefe
Spider Juice Technologies - Torrance, CA
Social SEO And Reputation Marketing
"You are helping someone who is not really helping you back" Rich you take exception to her comment, but I think it is more a general statement than an indictment. Obviously you do get juice for commenting in AR because you get points, which somehow raise your stature within the system. But what she is true generally speaking when you give some leecher a link back -followed or not, that writes some retarded comment in your blog. I think she was speaking of especially non AR blogs.
May 21, 2008 09:22 AM
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker

Tim - I think I understand her comment exceptionally well. I totally agree, that as 'business' owners, we should all take a long, hard look at what we do on a regular basis, to ensure that our time investments are helping to accomplish our goals, particularly if our goals are to make money. I am completely in agreement with Mary there. However, to make the statement that AR is not really helping you back is extremely unfair, especially from someone who has benefited greatly from her involvement there. But for someone who is a vendor, and makes her living from developing blogsites, it is understandable why she would say such things....

May 21, 2008 09:37 AM
Brian Brady
San Diego VA Home Loans/858-777-9751 - San Diego, CA
858-777-9751

However, to make the statement that AR is not really helping you back is extremely unfair, especially from someone who has benefited greatly from her involvement there. But for someone who is a vendor, and makes her living from developing blogsites, it is understandable why she would say such things....

Okay, I'm gonna go Rich on Rich; you're reading into this.  Mary was illustrating what she said earlier, which was, to spend your time productively.  Why did she "pick on" ActiveRain?   For the very same reason I do; you're successful.  She could have said Myspace or Facebook, as well.

Active Rain is, by far, the pre-eminent blogging platform in the real estate space.  As such, it has an awful lot of unproductiove people playing around.  When Mary said that you're helping someone who doesn't help back, she was explaining that Active Rain was a group blog, like Bloodhound.

Where should I spend most of my SMM efforts, Rich?  On Mortgage Rates Report or Bloodhound?  The former, of course.

You have every right to feel insulted but the video is parsed from her speech.  As such, you didn't get to see the compliments she paid AR.

The only "poke" anyone took at Active Rain was a video I put up, about a lady who attended, from the "group" post debacle we had.  (I guess it worked out, okay for me, huh?).  That was a tiny cheap shot and will be deleted.

May 21, 2008 11:46 AM
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker

Brian on Brian: I apologize. I shouldn't pass judgment without having been there, or without listening to the entire presentation. That's not fair to Mary. Mary, if you're lurking, please accept my apology. I tend to get rather protective about things I feel passionately about, and not just because I'm an employee.

The cheap shot was deserved, in my opinion. Our group moderators can be a little 'delete' trigger happy at times. You know how that drill goes. I plan to write something addressing it soon.

May 21, 2008 05:29 PM
Brian Brady
San Diego VA Home Loans/858-777-9751 - San Diego, CA
858-777-9751

Thanks, Rich. 

May 22, 2008 02:28 AM

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