We Are Just On Different Planets

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We Are Just On Different Planets

 

 

Tuesday night was a true learning experience as I realized I was just on a different planet.

 

Let me give some context to this story and set the stage before I explain. For quite some time a small advocacy group is on the attack; their mission “Rent Control in Long Beach.”

 

Recently this year, the City Attorney’s office had no choice but to clear the submitted proposed initiative, titled the Long Beach Rent Control Ordinance. That’s not to say the City Attorney’s office backs the initiative or trust its legality. All that means is the advocacy group did everything that’s demanded to clear the way for the initiative to be put on the ballot.

 

It is clear the Mayor and Members of City Council do not support the purposed initiative as they are on record as saying this initiative would be harmful to the growth and future of this city. The advocacy group also faces staunch opposition from LB Area Chamber of Commerce, California Apartment Association, Pacific West Association of Realtors, local Banks, and many other trade groups here in town.



Without the support from City Council and other local leaders, the small advocacy group now turns to the voters of Long Beach. The group has until July 30 to gather 27,462 signatures of registered voters in Long Beach in order to make the initiative eligible for the November ballot.



In front of the group gathering enough signatures, City Council members want to get ahead the proposed measure and start researching what the impact could be “as well as” the legality. So, on Tuesday, City Council members were to vote on whether or not they needed clarification with regard to the proposed initiative (which brings me to Tuesday night and my learning experience.)



I gave myself plenty of time because I knew there were going to be a lot of people at Tuesday’s City Council meeting. I arrived 30 minutes early only to find they were not letting any more people in because the room was already at capacity. Outside the building, there were plenty of folks gathered and that’s where I met Jordan Wynne.



Jordan along with Josh Butler head up the small advocacy group. I had recognized Jordan from his picture and I introduced myself. I gave Jordan my card and I told him that I would appreciate a meaningful discussion if possible. Jordan measured me up a bit (remember I’m on the other side/team and I think he was trying to see if I was sincere) and then agreed.



Right off the bat, I told Jordan that I believe in assisting those in need of assisted living, especially the elderly, handicapped. And I am so on board with getting the city to make some small zoning changes, implement affordable housing plans and then have builders bid for the jobs. And of course, we need to curb nefarious landlords. I then asked Jordan -besides curbing nefarious landlord behavior how does your proposed initiative solve the rest of the problems?



Needless to say, after a long respectful debate, I realized that we are on different planets when it comes to ideology and that would be our biggest challenge. And despite wanting the same things we were not able to agree on how to get there. Regardless, I told Jordan it was nice meeting and talking to him as I shook his hand and wished him all the best!

 

 

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Chris Ann Cleland
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I tried attempting a meaningful conversation with my supervisor on the local Board of Supervisors once.  The woman condescended to tell what "everyone" though in my neighborhood.  Odd.  I'm part of "everyone" and so were the nine other people in attendance at the meeting, and yet she could not hear an opposing view point.  It was going to be her way or the highway, damn the actual facts that involved something I am quite familiar with...REAL ESTATE.

Mar 23, 2018 10:13 AM #4
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Jon Kolsky
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Susan Haughton ~ they do have a fighting chance, and if they do win, it will be because of a deceitful message they push. If the plan worked, it would be a different story, but that's just not the case. The plan is a proven failed plan that doesn't work, just ask SF or any other place that has rent control    

Mar 23, 2018 10:43 AM #5
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Jon Kolsky
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Tammy Lankford, ~ ya... it is sort of tough when the person you are talking to feels it is the responsibility of the private sector to take care of social needs. Or when a person claims there's rent gouging in a beach city that offers the lowest rents in SO CAL 

Mar 23, 2018 10:48 AM #6
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Jon Kolsky
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Anna Banana Kruchten CRB, CRS, Broker ~ despite not seeing eye to eye on certain things, I did have a respectful and meaningful conversation with Jordan. And we walked away respecting the fact we see things differently. I don't think either one of us was upset at each other, we just know we want to solve a problem and we have different ideas on how to do it 

Mar 23, 2018 10:53 AM #7
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Jon Kolsky
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Chris Ann Cleland ~ lol.... you got to love the person that speaks for all, they are drinking different water or something

Mar 23, 2018 10:55 AM #8
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Myrl Jeffcoat
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I have attended a couple of my local council meetings recently.  What I am learning about politicians is that more often than not they aren't there to hear our concerns, they are there to sell their agendas paid for by powerful entities hidden behind the curtain.

Mar 23, 2018 04:49 PM #9
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Myrl Jeffcoat
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CONGRATULATIONS Jon, on having this blog FEATURED in the Old Farts Club group!    

Mar 23, 2018 04:50 PM #10
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John Juarez
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Housing affordability is a problem that seems as difficult to fix as homelessness. Rent control is not a long-term answer.

Mar 23, 2018 06:23 PM #11
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Jon Kolsky 
Fascinating situation. I hope you will keep us posted and edit each previous post to include the links to the new info! What a great series this will make. All the best - Lynn

PS  Hmmm - doesn't something similar already exist in other cities in CA? Did this group research the effects in those places?  Wonder what Endre Barath, Jr. would say about this effort? L.

Mar 23, 2018 11:43 PM #12
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Lottie Kendall
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Civil discourse -- great job for initiating that, Jon; it's not always easy, but it sounds like you and Jordan succeeded even though you are on different planets.

Mar 24, 2018 08:51 AM #13
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Jon Kolsky
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Myrl Jeffcoat ~ I hear you loud and clear. And pertaining to the purposed initiative in LB, I'm just glad the politicians don't want it and fight against it... BTW: the purposed initiative is not "rent control" it is "rent regulations."  And there is a big difference between rent control and rent regulation. Rent control is all about controlling the amount of rent increase over a period of time. Rent regulation imposes numerous regulations injurious to landlords such as imposing an annual rental housing fee to be paid by all landlords, taking away termination of contract rights and lawful eviction, imposing relocation payments be made to tenants and the list goes on. Rent control is one thing but rent regulation goes way too far (IMO.) And of course (even though I know the feature is for OFC,) THANK YOU

 

Mar 24, 2018 01:31 PM #14
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Jon Kolsky
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John Juarez ~ you are so right on both accounts, and I am all for solving both issues. But there's a big "but" rent control let alone rent regulation is not the answer

Mar 24, 2018 01:38 PM #15
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Lynn B. Friedman ~ first off, I added two links and I still want to add the 43-page rent regulation NOT rent control initiative, when I find it... I will probably also do another post explaining the very big differences between them because (IMO) it is very important and significant to understand both. And yes, there are rent controlled areas scattered throughout LA County, but thanks to Prop 13 and Costa Hawkins Rental Act (for the most part) put an end to the rent control movement. There's is one study that contradicts almost all other studies and data. But from an on the ground perspective I can tell you that rent control will significantly slow the natural progression of rising rents but at the same time, it promotes renters from ever moving eventually causing a shortage of housing crisis. Also, and maybe even just as bad, builders won't build in RC areas, hence the city misses out on tax dollars and new jobs, landlords don't fix up builds, hence the city misses out on tax dollars and jobs. And it is evident -you can tell what areas have rent control based on the general conditions of the outside of the buildings, and especially on the inside of them….. Lastly, FYIAMWTK... There's a big push to overturn Costa Hawkins in CA. If they are successful the entire State is in big trouble, not to mention they can even penetrate the entire commercial real estate industry  

 

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Mar 24, 2018 02:27 PM #17
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Lynn B. Friedman ~ the link doesn't work: Get ready it is long but worth reading for those passionate about this topic....

ATTACHMENT Questions Pertaining to the Proposed Long Beach Ordinance To Enact Rent Control, Rent Board and Eviction Limitations 1. Is the text of this Proposed Ordinance a matter of public record? 2. Does this Proposed Ordinance comply with the Costa-Hawkins Act? 3. Does this Proposed Ordinance comply with all existing municipal, state and federal statutes and regulations, and judicial decisions? .Please provide citations. 4. How does this Propose Ordinance deliver on the promise, expressed in the title, to protect homeowners? 5. Should the retroactive provisions of this Proposed Ordinance immediately decrease property values and create specific damages for property owners, under which municipal, state or federal laws, or judicial decisions can Owners recover damages from the City of Long Beach or from Housing Long Beach? Please provide citations. What arguments would the City of Long Beach offer in its defense if Owners were to file inverse condemnation complaints, either individually or collectively? (See Section 12(C)(b )(3)(A» 6. What is the first year in which a property can fall under the new ordinance? 7. Will the Proposed Ordinance force property owners to reverse rent increases that went into effect after January 1, 2017? 8. Would the new law prevent a landlord from issuing a 60-day notice to vacate? When would the Proposed Ordinance affect the ability to issue a 60-day Notice to Vacate? Would landlords have to serve notice prior to September 1,2018, or could they be issued up until November 1, 2018? 9. Will the Proposed Ordinance nullify existing leases and prematurely end contracts mutually agreed upon by landlord and tenant? If tenants who resided in a unit prior to 2017 choose to sign a new lease under a new rent-control enforced rental amount, does the prior or existing lease become null and void? 10.Will this Proposed Ordinance result in new taxes or fees to support the additional workloadfor City Staff? 11. Can you give us a detailed description of how the city plans on enforcing this proposed new ordinance? Will the enforcement be done by a 3rd party or the City Attorney's/City Prosecutor's office? 12. Please clarify the dates as it relates to the petition stamped on January 12, 2018: a. Assuming that the rent rollbacks will only apply to tenants that are in place prior to the signed date of the petition, meaning if a landlord evicts or has a vacancy any time after the stamped date, they will not be subject to a rollback if they fill the vacant unit with a new tenant at "market rent". Is that true? 13.Will all landlords be charged annual registration fees? Including those who own exempt units? Is this a blanket tax increase on a specific profession? 14. Written notice to Cease tenant violations must provide tenant a reasonable period of time to cure the violation. However, the term 'reasonable' is undefined in the text. Without a clear definition, can't this term be defined on an inconsistent, case-by-case basis? Can it be easily abused without any sort of standards in place? Who decides the reasons for denial of a replacement tenant? 15.Are there any owner protections if a tenant refuses to execute a new lease? If the tenant refuses, and owners begin eviction - a costly process that includes attorney fees - and the tenant changes his or her mind midway through the lengthy eviction, do owners have any ability to recover expenses? Is it true that single-family dwellings, condominiums, and new construction are exempt from rent control under Costa-Hawkins? If so, does Costa-Hawkins supersede the proposed rent control ordinance, leaving those types of properties exempt from rent control? Section 3: Definitions (b)(1) Base Rent. Does this requirement, which will be applied retroactively, comply with existing law? Can you assure property owners that this provision does not create a requirement that forces them to break the law? Please provide citations and categorize into those indicating compliance and those indicating noncompliance. Is the "effective date of this Chapter" 01/18/2018 or 11/06/2018 (Election Day)? (h) Fair Return. This calculation doesn't take into account all expenses. m Housing Services. Are they included in the rent adjustment or are they stand alone and pass through as presented? 0) Primary Residence. What prevents any tenant from "hanging on" to a belowmarket unit and also occupying another unit elsewhere? Are there any protections in this provision to actually prevent the law from being abused and decreasing housing stock? How does this provision meet the People's declaration of Finding 2(a)? Section 4: Exemptions (a) (4) - Are units or buildings with Section 8 Housing Vouchers exempt from Rent Control? (b)(1) [Do not understand; need to read CCCP 1954.52.] (Please clarify) . Are properties exempted under Costa-Hawkins subject to the Just Cause Eviction Protection and Tenant Buyout Notification Program? Section 5: Additional Homeowner Protections (b) - Could we change all of our rentals to be roommates to be unregulated? ) Small, (c) Second Units Unregulated. Does this paragraph mean that granny flats are exempts if Granny occupies it and her child's family lives in the main house? If this section is the "Homeowner Protection" claimed in the Proposed Ordinance's title, this type of housing is actually a type of duplex. Under which municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations is the Proposed Ordinance empowered to distinguish regulation of this type of multi-family housing over other types of multi-family housing, such as two-on-one or apartment-style duplexes, or triplexes, or fourplexes? Please provide citations Section 6: Just Cause for Eviction (a)(1) Failure to Pay Rent. Question 1: Under which municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations, or judicial decisions, might a Tenant's failure to pay hislher portion of the Rental Housing Fee not constitute a breach of contract and cause for eviction? Please provide citations. (a)(2)(B) ref. ''The Landlord ... has the right to approve or disapprove the prospective additional or replacement Tenant, who is not a minor dependent child, provided that the approval is not unreasonably withheld." Question 1: Does this mean that a Housing Provider needs to provide a reason for disapproving, or 'does this mean that the Housing Provider needs to provide a response in a timely manner? Question 2: If Housing Provider needs to provide a reason for disapproving, can the Housing Provider conform to this provision of the Proposed Ordinance by complying with existing applicable rules regarding approval of occupancy? Please provide citations. Question 3: Does the Rent Board have authority to create its own rules regarding Housing Provider's authority to approve occupancy? Please provide citations. Question 4: Which municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations, or judic Question 1: How shall the Proposed Ordinance provide limitations on the Rent Board's authority so that it does not enact an unreasonably narrow definition of good faith, or enacts a definition unreasonably favorable to Tenants? Question 2: Which municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations, or judicial decisions would empower or limit the Rent Board's authority to enact one or more definitions of good faith? Please provide and categorize citations both granting and circumscribing such authority. (a)(9) Necessary and Substantial Repairs Requiring Temporary Vacancy. Why does the Proposed Ordinance provide a relocation subsidy to a tenant who caused substantial damages to their rental unit? (a)(10) Withdrawal of Unit Permanently from Rental Market. Ref. "Tenants shall be entitled to a minimum of 120-day notice or one (1) year in the case Tenants are defined as senior or Disabled." Can Housing Provider commence and complete the eviction process if the Tenant, whether or not classified as senior or Disabled, fails to pay rent or breaches the Residential Housing Agreement? Please provide citations from the Proposed Ordinance, municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations or judicial decisions affecting this question. (b)(1)(C) ref. "Landlord who terminates a tenancy pursuant to Subsection (a)(8) ... shall pay Relocation Assistance ... " Does the Proposed Ordinance comply with existing municipal, state and federal statutes and regulations, and judicial decisions when it requires a Housing Provider to pay Relocation Assistance to move into his or her own Property? If not, why would the City force housing providers to break the law? How are housing providers supposed to determine which law they should break? 0) Landlord Compliance with this Ordinance. Meaning vague. Please explain. Section 7: Rents Stabilized Question 1: When and how are base rents determined? Question 2: What other considerations go in to determining base rents? Question 3: Will the Rent Board prepare a Notice that satisfies the terms of this section or does each landlord prepare his own? Section 8: Rent Increases Pursuant to Annual General Adjustment: (a)(1) Consumer Price Index Geographic Revision for 2018 In January 2018, BLS introduced a new geographic area sample for the Consumer Price Index (CPI). As part of the new sample, Los Angeles and Riverside have separate indexes. The first indexes using the new structure are published for the first time this month. Additional information on the geographic revision is available at: www.bls.gov/cpi/georevision2018.htm. Will the Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim CPI-U be used for determining the rate of increase? (d) Notice Required to Increase Rent or Change Other Terms of Tenancy (a) Composition. Ref. "The Board will be comprised of at least three (3) Tenants and two (2) unrestricted positions. If any board position is filled by a person who represents residential rental Property owners, no more than one (1) member may be a Property manager or developer of market rate housing." (h) Voting. Ref. "The affirmative vote of three (3) Commissioners of the Rent Board is required for a decision ... " Question 1: The Rent Board, Which municipal, state and federal statutes and ordinances, and judicial decisions, allow such conflict of interest in a municipal ordinance? Please provide citations. Question 2: How can the Proposed Ordinance declare that the two unrestricted positions are, in fact, unrestricted, when the same Proposed Ordinance states "no more than one (1) member may be a Property manager or ... " Further, how can the Proposed Ordinance make a claim that the two seats are "unrestricted" when the Notice of Intent to Circulate Petition states "No more than two Board members would be permitted to own or manage rental property ... " (d)(15) Pursue civil remedies as provided by this Ordinance in courts of appropriate Question 1: Will the Rent Board prepare a Notice that satisfies the terms of this section or does each landlord prepare his own? Section 9: Restrictions on Initial Rent for New Tenants Question 1: When a new tenant moves in, how does the new rental rate get calculated? Question 2: Does the rent remain the same as the previous tenant or does the rent increase based upon the CPI guidelines? Question 3: As long as Costa-Hawkins is law, can landlords set initial rent to market rent? If this ordinance prohibits landlords from setting initial rent to market, does this violate state law? Section 10: Tenant Buyout Notification Program (a), (b), (c) All 3 subsections state that documents related to a Tenant Buyout have to be in the primary language of the tenant. Since a certified translation of non-English documents has to be provided to the court if there is a dispute, this seems to be onerous. If the rental agreement is written in English, should not all other documents related to the tenancy also be in English? (c)(1) and (c )(2)(C) Buyout Agreement Requirements. Thirty days is an extraordinarily long rescission period. Under which municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations, or judicial decisions, can the Proposed Ordinance offer a rescission period, and to offer one of such extraordinary duration? Please provide citations. (e) Filing Executed Disclosure Notice and Buyout Agreement) If Notice and Agreement are in a foreign language (per Section 1O(a-c), will the Rent Board provide a certified translator to provide an English language version of the document( s)? Section 11: Long Beach Rental Housing Board jurisdiction. Does the Proposed Ordinance empower the Rent Board to form its own department or bureau of the City Attorney's Office? If the Proposed Ordinance does not so empower the Rent Board, under what other municipal, state or federal statutory or regulatory authority could the Rent Board be empowered to form its own department or bureau of the City Attorney's Office? Please provide citations. " 0)(1)(A) Pass-Through to Tenants. Ref. "... the pass-through must be in the form of a Rent surcharge prorated over a twelve-month period." Does the Proposed Ordinance enable the Housing Provider to charge interest to recover his/her interest charges to allow the Tenant to pay monthly? If not, under what other municipal, state or federal statutory or regulatory authority might the Housing Provider have recourse to recover his/her interest? Please provide citations. Are there any city/county fees that can be passed through or considered a "rent surcharge". Also, do existing municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations enable a Housing Provider to use the Tenant's security deposit and charge interest against it? Please provide citations. (Financing) Since the Rent Board will be assessing new taxes (fees, charges), is a 2/3rds supermajority required? (k) Integrity and Autonomy of Rent Board. Ref. "The Rent Board ... shall exercise its powers ... independent from the City Council, City Manager, and City Attorney except by request of the Rent Board." Doesn't this ordinance create a governing body that has defined itself as operating outside the scope of the City Attorney and limits the City Attorney's ability to do his/her job? Are there any other ordinances on the books that limit the City Attorney's ability to do his/her job? Wouldn't that limitation of power require a revision to the city charter? Under what municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations can the Proposed Ordinance limit the City Attorney's involvement solely at the discretion of the Rent Board? Please provide citations. Under what municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations can the City Attorney file complaints against the Rent Board? Please provide citations. Which municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations might limit the City Attorney's powers to file complaints against the Rent Board? Please provide citations. (I) Board Legal Work. Ref. 'The Rent Board may ... retain private attorneys ... " Please name firms which have aided or advised Housing Long Beach in drafting this Proposed Ordinance? Aid, advice or drafting may come in many possible forms, including formal contract on an hourly or contingency basis, consulting on an hourly or contingency basis, or any of the many possible forms of engaging legal help. What municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations obligate Housing Long Beach to disclose its legal and other advisors in navigating the petition process, drafting the Proposed Ordinance and lobbying elected officials and key members of City Staff. (m) Conforming Regulations. Ref. "If any portion of this Ordinance is declared invalid or unenforceable by decision of a court ... or rendered invalid or unenforceable by state or federal legislation, the Rent Board and not the City Council shall have authority to enact replacement regulations ... " Do any current municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations limit this power of the Rent Board? Please provide citations. Section 12: Petitions for Individual Rent Adjustment - Bases (b)(3)(A) Base Year. (b)(4) Exceptional Expenses in the Base Year. Question 1: Under which municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations, or judicial decisions, does the Proposed Ordinance claim that parties not engaged in the activity of Housing Providers are qualified to render judgment on what constitutes Exceptional Expenses? Please provide citations. Question 2: Under which municipal, state or federal statutes or regulations, or judicial decisions, does the Proposed Ordinance claim power that the Tenant members of the Rent Board are not engaging in conflicts of interest? Please provide citations. (b)(6)(A), (B) and (C), including all subsections. Question 1: How will the Proposed Ordinance empower the Rent Board to obtain the expertise to understand operating expenses in its duties to render judgments on these operating expenses? Question 2: How will the Proposed Ordinance resolve the conflict of interest held by the Tenant Rent Board members, whose sole votes are the only votes required to render judgment against Housing Providers? Question 3: Under which municipal, state and federal statutes and regulations, and judicial decisions, can a Rent Board operate which has the explicit conflict of interest described above? Please provide citations. Section 13: Petitions for Individual Rent Adjustment - Procedures (a) Hearing Officer. Question 1: What are the qualifications for a Hearing Officer? Question 2: How is the Hearing Officer compensated?

Mar 24, 2018 02:32 PM #18
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Jon Kolsky
Kolsky Realty & Management - Long Beach, CA
Licensed California Real Estate Broker

Lottie Kendall ~ I think I just blew up the comment thread with my last comment... But "yes"... Jordan was very respectful we both listened to each other, we gave each other standing and neither of us was condescending. We were both able to look eye to eye, shake hands, and walk away feeling each other was respectfully heard 

Mar 24, 2018 02:41 PM #19
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John Wiley
Right Move Real Estate Group- EXP Realty - Fort Myers, FL
Lee County, FL, ECO Broker, GRI, SRES,GREEN,PSA

Good for you that you took a civil approach and tried to have a meaningful dialog.

But, some people can not hear through their biases and too often miss some good advice.

Interested in how this initiative proceeds.

Mar 24, 2018 07:25 PM #20
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Jon Kolsky
Kolsky Realty & Management - Long Beach, CA
Licensed California Real Estate Broker

John Wiley ~ thank you! The civil approach is the best approach when trying to make heads or tales of the situation... And even when opposing sides can't meet somewhere in the middle, they can at least be civil trying to get there

Mar 25, 2018 10:19 AM #21
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Jan Green
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Wow!  Great approach Jon.  This has to be a heated discussion for your city.   I can't imagine how this will come to pass. There has to be a lot of opposition.  

Mar 25, 2018 07:33 PM #22
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Jon Kolsky
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Jan Green ~ this is a heated debate for sure, both sides are very passionate and determined. We just have to educate as many LB voters as possible, they need to know that RC isn't the answer to affordable housing not to mention RC creates an even bigger supply problem 

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