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CAN A CITY FORCE REPAIRS?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with people first...then business Ran Right Realty 636943 licensed to thrill

I manage a property in a medium size City in California and received a notice from my client (the owner) who received a notice from the City stating the following: The interior and the exterior of the above referenced property is scheduled to be inspected on May 20th 2018 between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. to see if you are compliant with Uniform Housing code

HAS OWNED PROPERTY FOR DECADES

My client has never gotten a notice like this and he has owned this property for generations. He wanted my opinion on what is going on and what to do about it? The property had been rented out by the same tenant for over 20 years at a low rent. However, she gave notice and moved. We re-rented the property

I HAVE MANAGED PROPERTY FOR DECADES

In all my property management experiences, I have never gotten a randomly selected notice of this type. Yes, I have gotten violations, health department claims, building code notices and requests from tenants and the like but never a systematic inspection carried out by a City as part of their charter

THEY AVE 265 POINTS TO MAKE?

Accompanying this notice is a list of 243 items they will be looking at and for. My first impression was that this is illegal, unenforceable & subject to challenge in a court of law just on its face. Why? At the discretion of the City Inspector, he can cause an owner of a property to spend tens of thousands of dollars and ....

EVICTION of  TENANT

Furthermore: In addition to demanded and discretionary repairs, this could cause the tenant to have to move to perform the work. Not only that but if the property is older of which this is, making repairs leads to the inevitable Pandora's box of remodeling i.e. one thing leads to another that needs fixing and or updating

BANKRUPTCY OR FORECLOSURE OR LOSS OF INCOME

If the property has a mortgage or loan on it and the income from the rental is needed to pay it, this immediately puts the entire investment into jeopardy for all concerned. What if the owner is reliant on the income? What about the hardship caused to a tenant that has to potentially move? 

CITIES ARE SELF-INSURED

Most people are not aware that cities self-insure themselves thus not having a company that does it. However, cities are run on strict budgets and extra expenses, lawsuits or catastrophes challenges the budget even endangering it. They spend their day to day activities monitoring their welfare and their public

THIS IS CHALLENGEABLE

There are so many laws on city, state and federal levels that they often clash and many are not enforceable or legal. This is not known until these laws are challenged. If they hold, they are fortified. If they fail, they are modified or removed. This situation if filed as a class action may prove costly and winnable too

SYSTEMIC HEALTH & SAFETY INSPECTION

This is what they call it. I know they mean well. The bar for rentals is being raised but at whose expense, inconvenience or request? Tenants are not requesting it, landlords are not so how can it be any ones else business? They go on to say that if it passes it will not be inspected for four years. It also says this.....

FAILING TO PASS THIS INSPECTION

If you fail this inspection, you will be giving a list of corrections to make and a chance to correct before being reinspected. Let me once again bring up that they have a check-off list of 265 items they can choose from and each one comes with time, money and problems of their own all forced upon a property owner

MY RESPONSE TO MY CLIENT

I have reviewed the notice in detail. My first reaction is that it is unfair and possibly illegal to single out residential rental properties as opposed to owner occupied units and make them stand for what could be a costly inspection and repair situation. If this is part of Ontario’s Charter then it may enforceable but contestable in its nature. This would prove costly (need attorney) to do. The City’s intent is to maintain a high standard of living so who can argue that? Even if you successfully prove it is discriminatory in its nature it would involve time & money. The best approach then is to make repairs which ultimately maintains values and conformity for all involved

FURTHERMORE

Out of 265 potential violations (see original list), You have a potential 18 that may or do (by my standards) apply to you for correction. They are listed as follows: 101, 103, 105, 117, 123, 135, 140, 141, 142, 144, 146, 150, 152, 214, 242, 249, 254, 259.

OTHER DYNAMICS

This is a delicate situation because it is dependent on who you get for an inspector. If a by the book hard-nosed person is assigned the benefit of all work will go toward major repairs. If a more liberal person is assigned, the minimum will re required or less can get you by. We have no way to ascertain what type of person will inspect. Be aware they have the power to shut down the rental activity if any resistance or lack of cooperation takes place.

 CONSIDER THIS

One approach to take which will make this lean in your favor is to go do the work NOW and when the person comes they find most everything looking good which causes them to just write this thing as done (not look so hard) and move-on. If you don’t do the work in advance, it just invites a more thorough inspection. This takes us back to the “what kind of inspector” will we get?

 NOTE THIS

Raising rents to offset these repairs is not recommended as it can be seen as retaliatory.

Fellow professionals...your thoughts?

Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Dan Tabit ...your decent commenting stands & thank you D.T.

May 21, 2018 09:22 AM
Greg Mona
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Professional Real Estate Representation for YOU!

Thanks for sharing this, Richie. My first impression was "this is some sort of a scam", but apparently this is the real deal. This is a perfect example of "big brother" overstepping its bounds. Sadly, the odds of fighting this and winning are not good AND will cost a lot of time and money. I hate to see folks have to roll over for something they didn't do wrong nor ask for. It is best to go ahead and fix the place up so there is less to pick on by the inspector. Best of luck with this and please keep us posted on the outcome. I'm very interested to hear how this turns out!

May 21, 2018 09:36 AM
Caroline Gerardo
Licensed in 20 states - Newport Beach, CA
C. G. Barbeau the Loan Lady nmls 324982

I guarantee the TENANT took photos and sent them to the city complaining about health and safety code violations. The city then has a responsibility to act. I assume the house has lead paint- as long as not chipped and peeling the city cannot make you fix this and frankly it isn't prudent to sand it or try and use gloppy paint stripper as that's hazmat material. 

Okay others the next part is gross rated as I have had tenants who are not clean and the source of problems

Does the house have an infestation? Seal up all the cracks and holes. There is a walk the plank mouse trap that sits on the top of a 5-gallon bucket with a dab of peanut butter and water in the bucket- the most effective. Set 12 rat traps also with peanut butter Scrub down all walls and floors and disinfect the whole house. All food must be in Glass jars with lids. Trash out daily. Does tenant have weekly trash pick up?  The roof is not going to show problems right now as it hardly rains here (misty this morning) so I would wait on the roof. Sinks or toilets leaking? Fix them. 

Call me if you need other advice. I would clean up, fix leaks, get rid of vermin today before any inspection. Delay the appointment as long as possible BUT ASSUME tenant probably already walked them through and delay is only to clean up any health and safety code violations

May 21, 2018 10:16 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Hello Greg Mona ...you have a good grasp and thank you G.M.

Hello Caroline Gerardo ...you remain part of the intelligent solution thank you

May 21, 2018 10:26 AM
Jon Kolsky
Kolsky Realty & Management - Long Beach, CA
Licensed California Real Estate Broker

Richie Alan Naggar ~ The city of LB is famous for such letters. With that said, I don't have this issue in other cities.... As mentioned, tenants can complain and that can start the process "or" certain cities (like LB) have set in place a special division for multifamily units

May 21, 2018 11:03 AM
Matthew Sturkie, CRS, GRI 909-969-3805
Action Realty - Apple Valley, CA
CRS, GRI 909-969-3805

Hi Richie,

I am in your area. I have not heard of this. Something had to trigger this. Maybe as someone else mentioned, the new tenant may have had something to do with it. I have had the City of San Bernardino inspect exteriors and demand repairs be made. Some cities have pre-sale inspections but since the property is not being sold, something else had to trigger this. The best thing to do is get to work on the list before they get there. Cities have great power and it's probably not a good idea to fight them.

May 21, 2018 11:48 AM
Beth Atalay
Cam Realty and Property Management - Clermont, FL
Cam Realty of Clermont FL

WOW Richie Alan Naggar! One of the cities I do property management in requires the City inspector to come once a year, the landlord has to pay $75.00 to get a rental sticker and some inspectors pick on every single thing. 
Your response to your client is a great one.

May 21, 2018 04:47 PM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Hello Jon Kolsky ...good feedback Jon and thank you

Matthew Sturkie, CRS, GRI 909-969-3805 ...yes to your commenting Matt

Hello Beth Atalay ...wow back at ya...The city has monetized the landlord/tenant relationship and added a permanent tax while at it. Wow says it all

May 21, 2018 05:15 PM
Dale Taylor
Re/Max 10 New Lenox Illinois http://dtaylor.remax.com - Frankfort, IL
Realtor = Chicago Illinois Homes Townhomes Condos

A majority of the suburbs I serve in the Chicago-southland require village inspections. The more affluent communities have not required them in the marketplace I serve. Villages use them to maintain a livable standard, for properties to keep their tax assessed value for tax revenue, and to insure homeowners keep their village utility obligations current when there is a transfer of real estate ownership. Can we just call it an unfortunate necessary evil💸?

May 21, 2018 06:32 PM
Thomas McCombs
Century 21 HomeStar - Akron, OH

This is an ongoing struggle between municipalities and housing providers. if the municipality is not enforcing similar restrictions on owner-occupants then it is on its face discriminatory.
As you say, you may win an action in court on this but a business decision has to be made as to whether your particular client should be the one that pays those costs. Housing provider groups have a long history of battling these kinds of restrictions so you might want to check with some of them and see what their experiences have been.
Municipalities are usually desperate for funds and this is a way for them to to generate some of those funds.

May 22, 2018 04:57 AM
John Wiley
Fort Myers, FL
Lee County, FL, ECO Broker, GRI, SRES,GREEN,PSA

Richie Alan Naggar this is such an over reach by the city.

One of the first things that came to my mind, I would not give legal advice.

I would sent the owner to a good Real Estate Attorney for professional advice.

I am pulling for you and your client to have a successful conclusion.

May 22, 2018 06:32 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

 

 

 

Dale Taylor ...explains it like a college professor would. Thank you D.T.

Thomas McCombs ...most excellent commenting and sharing thank you  T.M.

John Wiley ...is a good man to have on a team and a good neighbor too

May 22, 2018 06:53 AM
Nick Vandekar, 610-203-4543
Realty ONE Group Advocates 484-237-2055 - Downingtown, PA
Selling the Main Line & Chester County

In our area we have over 200 different municipalities and each has their own rules. Some inspect, some don't, investors tend to purchase where they feel the most comfortable providing rental property. Property values rise where it is easier to hold as a landlord and rental values are steady as the costs are lower.

May 22, 2018 11:56 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Hello Corinne Guest, Managing Broker ...your decent commenting stands

Hello Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543 ...well stated and shared thank you

May 22, 2018 12:27 PM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

I haven't heard of this kind of inspection happening here, and I'd have to agree with a few of the comments above -- I'm betting the new tenant complained about something. 

May 23, 2018 04:26 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Hello Kat Palmiotti ...interesting as we all have similar thoughts

May 23, 2018 07:06 AM
M.C. Dwyer
Melody Russell Team at eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Felton, CA
MC Dwyer-Santa Cruz Mountains Property Specialist

Richie Alan Naggar very concerning  hope this is not a new trend considering we need affordable housing.    Nice that you prepared your client with the fixes you thought appropriate - good luck!   

But- something triggered this since you've never seen it before.     Was it the old tenant?   New tenant?     Neighbor?    No one seemed to throw the neighbor under the bus, but I've heard that possibility more than once.     

As one or two mentioned, we always have to careful not to appear to be giving legal advice.    Hope you keep us posted.

May 23, 2018 07:59 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Hello there M.C. Dwyer ...Most excellent commenting and sharing shedding a light on how you think and process. Yes to a neighbor or a tenant past or current being suspect. We must never rule out that the "butler" didn't do it. Astute of you to point out the legal caveat. My 20 years in the courts allows me latitude and I know where the fine line lives....Good of you to lend a say here...best

May 23, 2018 09:24 AM
Kimo Jarrett
Cyber Properties - Huntington Beach, CA
Pro Lifestyle Solutions

Somebody triggered the inspection by the city, yet, you can't do much when they are concerned about health and safety code violations. I'll bet the city has 1265 codes or more about residential properties in their code book.

I would get ahead of the inspector and check for mold, infestation and plumbing issues or start by getting the property inspected to determine if any issues should be repaired. I'm sure you have a home inspector you regularly use in your business. 

May 24, 2018 06:57 PM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Hello Kimo Jarrett ...your decent commenting stands & thank you Kimo

May 25, 2018 06:53 AM