Do you ever refuse to show a house?

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Real Estate Agent with Grand Lux Realty, Monroe NY, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com 10301213186
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The other day, my buyer client wanted to add a specific home to our upcoming tour. So I looked into the property and based on the description and other data, the house appeared to be a good match. So I requested an appointment.

 

I received a response back from the listing agent asking me to sign a form. So I opened up the form and read it.

 

The form was a Release and Hold Harmless agreement for a foreclosed property. I've seen these before, but the few times I did, they said something like "Warning, there may be mold, you've been warned" or something like that.

 

This time, the form started out with:

 

The undersigned (that would be me) ackowledges that:

The seller has disclosed to the undersigned the condition of the property and that the property presents a risk of personal injury or death.

 

The form went on to say I've been apprised of the health risks, and am entering the property anyway, and I won't hold anyone accountable for anything that happens. It also stated the same applied to anyone who I brought with me.

 

So I went back and read the MLS listing again, to see what kind of information the seller had provided that defined something that could be harmful. I must have missed it.

 

I found nothing! Neither in the agent remarks nor in the public remarks. The house sounded great. There was nothing in the pictures that looked fishy either.

 

So I texted the listing agent and let her know that the seller did NOT disclose anything about the condition of the property, so what exactly was it about the property that could kill me?

 

Her answer was essentially that the form was standard, it's used all the time, no worries.

 

She did not answer me about what kind of issues existed in the property.

 

So I explained the conversation to my buyer and they decided not to see it. I'm glad. Sorry, I'm not signing some form when I don't even know what the heck is wrong to begin with. And I'm not signing a form that says I'm aware of issues, when I'm not. And I'm not agreeing to my potential death. Nope. Not happening.

 

Have you ever said no to a showing request?

 

 

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Kat Palmiotti, The House Kat

Licensed Associate Broker, CBR®

Grand Lux Realty, Inc.

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Kat Palmiotti
Grand Lux Realty, Monroe NY, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com - Monroe, NY
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Kimo Jarrett - Absolutely. Part of our job is paying attention to our client's needs and making sure we are not letting non-appropriate homes get in the way.

Rose Mary Justice I'm betting a lot of agents don't read what they sign.

Patricia Feager - Thank you for your kind comments! The only thing I really don't read when I agree to it, are the big long notices that come when you download new apps, or sign up on certain websites. I probably should, but who has time?

Aug 05, 2018 06:17 AM #58
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Jan Green
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Wow!  I'd have done the same thing.  No reason to sign something like that and obviously your buyer agrees with you!  Good for you :)

Aug 05, 2018 07:35 AM #59
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Greg Mona
Faira Homes Corp - Scottsdale, AZ
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You did the right thing there, Kat Palmiotti. While some have brought up good points about the house being a potential "gem" that could be had at a good price, there is no good reason why this disclaimer should exist if there was truly "nothing to worry about" with the house. 

 

Aug 05, 2018 08:34 AM #60
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Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor, ePRO, CRS, RCS-D
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
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Sounds like he is good judgment on that one and it also is suspicious as to whether that agent is trying to create a pocket listing by scaring off would be buyer agents?
The only time I typically refused to show a property is if it’s completely outside of the budget I have a client that just wants to see it and or I never show any properties to someone that refuses to provide me with a preapproval letter and or proof of funds: I just refuse the investor access to one of my listings because he refused to provide proof of funds so it was difficult to take him seriously or wish to waste my time with someone like that sounds like he is good judgment on that one and it also is suspicious as to whether that agent is trying to create a pocket listing by scaring off would be buyer agents?
The only time I typically refused to show a property is if it’s completely outside of the budget I have a client that just wants to see it and or I never show any properties to someone that refuses to provide me with a preapproval letter and or proof of funds: I just refuse the investor access to one of my listings because he refused to provide proof of funds so it was difficult to take him seriously or do I wish to waste my time with someone like that.

Aug 05, 2018 12:15 PM #61
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Mary Hutchison, SRES, ABR
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That's a new one for me...good thing you checked it out.

Aug 05, 2018 04:13 PM #62
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Kat Palmiotti
Grand Lux Realty, Monroe NY, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com - Monroe, NY
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Jan Green - I'm glad my client agreed as well!

Greg Mona - I understand this could have been a gem as well, but not for this buyer!

Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor, ePRO, CRS, RCS-D - Financing issues can definitely be cause to not show homes to someone. And I didn't even think about the pocket listing aspect.

 

Aug 06, 2018 03:24 AM #63
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Kat Palmiotti
Grand Lux Realty, Monroe NY, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com - Monroe, NY
The House Kat

Mary Hutchison, SRES, ABR - Thank you for your comment! It was a new one to me too!

Aug 06, 2018 03:25 AM #64
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Rose B. Carpenter
All-Star Realty Associates - Spartanburg, SC

I have seen this with some foreclosure homes - it depends on the investor who is selling it and some do actually request that this form be signed by anyone showing the home.  It does not mean that there is anything wrong with the home that may harm you.  What it does mean is that investor actually had someone bring charges/lawsuit against them for the condition of a previous home.  So, as with any corporation, they "over-kill" and ask that this be signed to protect them from any future charges.  Personally, since I work with investors, I would have signed it and gone on to show it because most of the time there is not enough wrong with the house to stop an investor!  However, I would not show it to buyers that would need a loan since most of the time they cannot handle them.

Aug 06, 2018 06:32 AM #65
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Kelly McBride
Ackerman Spinelli - Mays Landing, NJ
Working with Sellers, Staging for appeal

Yes, i am refusing to show a home that is listed in my office as there is substantial flooding issues with the neighborhood by a near farm and the county is involved with the lawsuits by neighbors. It is not disclosed in the MLS listing but my "research" tells me to RUN from this house...only a lawsuit waiting to happen!

Aug 06, 2018 08:35 AM #66
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
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How bizarre, Kat. Have never run across that sort of thing before. I wouldn't have shown it.

Jeff

Aug 06, 2018 05:07 PM #67
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Kat Palmiotti
Grand Lux Realty, Monroe NY, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com - Monroe, NY
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Rose B. Carpenter - Thank you for your insight. That's probably what happened in this case. And you are right about the difference between investors and home owners purchasing properties. 

Kelly McBride - Thanks for your comment! As to the house with flooding - lawsuits could take years... I'm sure most buyers would not want to have anything to do with either the legal aspects or the floods!

Jeff Dowler, CRS - Me neither! 

Aug 07, 2018 03:02 AM #68
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Sally K. & David L. Hanson
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Good decision...have onlhy seen that here once....and the Buyer elected NOT to see the property...whew !

Aug 07, 2018 07:13 AM #69
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
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I'm glad your buyer decided not to tour it too, Kat. Do you think it may have been a meth house? (The 'health concerns' comment is what made me think that). 

I can't say that I've had anything quite like this happen - thankfully - but, you did everything you could to get to the bottom of it and ultimately, you and your buyer made the right decision!

Aug 07, 2018 10:11 PM #70
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Kat Palmiotti
Grand Lux Realty, Monroe NY, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com - Monroe, NY
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Sally K. & David L. Hanson - Phew is right!

Debe Maxwell, CRS - I don't know about the meth house; I've never heard of any here, but I guess you never know!

Aug 08, 2018 03:36 AM #71
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Hello Kat,

Very interesting post with some great comments and I wonder why this post didn't go GOLD?

The AR God's must be asleep ;o)

Aug 08, 2018 07:32 PM #72
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Kat Palmiotti
Grand Lux Realty, Monroe NY, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com - Monroe, NY
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Robert Vegas Bob Swetz - Thank you for stopping by! The post was sort of a gold one since it was included in one of the AR Daily Drops. All is good! 

Aug 09, 2018 03:15 AM #73
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Matthew Klinowski, PA
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I try to present the facts to my clients and involve them in the decision making process.

Aug 10, 2018 04:40 PM #74
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Kat Palmiotti
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Matthew Klinowski, PA - Exactly right!

Aug 11, 2018 03:05 AM #75
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Tammy Lankford,
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I would unlock the door, but I wouldn't set foot in the house.  I do however have a guy... with a suit and additional suits for buyers if they want to go in the moldy houses.  I've seen the form.  I have had a listing where similar forms were mandatory. I am a REO agent.

Aug 12, 2018 09:15 PM #76
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Kat Palmiotti
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Tammy Lankford, - Thanks for your comment! I guess if my buyers had insisted on seeing it, I'd probably have signed/gone there, but luckily they didn't.

Aug 13, 2018 03:26 AM #77
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