Should Realtor Ethics Violations Be Public Info?

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Real Estate Agent with Lyon Real Estate BRE #00697006

I put this question out there to the Active Rain community: should Realtor ethics violations be public information? For a closed-knit organization that prevents its members from bad-mouthing each other, no surprise its stance; it's fiercely protective of its membership. Realtors, reluctantly or eagerly (hard to say) pay dues to belong. Some hold a grudge because they are required to pay dues to NAR and local associations due to company policy at their brokerage, like they wouldn't do so otherwise.

But let's get back to what separates Realtors from regular real estate agents, and that something is the Realtor Code of Ethics. How it is enforced is sometimes another story, but the COE is still near and dear in the hearts of many of us. You can read more in my personal blog today at this link: Realtor Ethics Violations Not Available to the Public.

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Rainmaker
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Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Real Estate Agent, Top 1% of Lyon Agents
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Charita Cadenhead No where did I infer that only non-Realtors were unethical. Simply stated the obvious: the thing that separates regular agents from Realtors is the Code of Ethics. Regardless of which group is more or less ethical, whatev, one group does not swear to abide by the Code of Ethics. That's what I am saying. This cannot be disputed. It is a fact.

But I agree with you about how grudges and favoritism can impede fairness.

Sep 14, 2018 09:39 AM #4
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Charita Cadenhead
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Understood.

Sep 14, 2018 10:21 AM #5
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Kathy Streib
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Hi Elizabeth- That's a tough call. When these things are posted, you really can't get the whole picture of what occurred. Some readers may see that there was an infraction and not go any further than that. This may sound like wishful thinking but I do think that the majority of agents want to do their best to do what's right. If Brokers demand it of their agents and realize that enforcing the breaches will elevate the industry perhaps that would be a start. 

Sep 14, 2018 10:46 AM #6
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Carol Williams
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Hi Elizabeth,
I don't think the complaints should be made public but perhaps if the complaints are found to be valid they should.  I doubt NAR would ever go for such a thing, though.  It's kind of like a union in that respect. 

That said, we need to get serious about improving the image of our industry, not making it seem worse. 

Sep 14, 2018 11:30 AM #7
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Joan Cox
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Elizabeth, sounds like it was a dog and pony show, and glad you were found innocent.

Sep 14, 2018 02:53 PM #8
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Kathy Streib I agree it is hard to figure out which are real violations.

Sep 14, 2018 06:46 PM #9
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Carol Williams Well, NAR is a trade association and all that that entails. Dues, training and products probably keep them afloat.

Sep 14, 2018 06:48 PM #10
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Joan Cox It was not at all what I expected. With some of these things, you can throw logic and sanity out the window.

Sep 14, 2018 06:49 PM #11
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
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Complaints, no but, it they are found 'guilty,' yes. They do that in every other organization - doctors, lawyers, etc.

I'm off to read your post, Elizabeth! Happy Saturday!

Sep 15, 2018 09:31 AM #12
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Candice A. Donofrio
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In the magickal land of AZ, if you have a problem with the Department, it's public record - a consent order is attached in PDF form to your DRE license entry for anyone to read (some of them are unintentionally hilarious).  Sanctions are also published in a report.

And if audited and found compliant, you get to be on the 'honor roll'.

If the public only knew how much they don't know!
Now why wouldn't that apply to ethics violations confirmed and disciplined?
I think you answered that in your post:

"As long as Realtor Associations are in charge of ethics violations, there will always be drama. It’s like incest in some ways. And they will never publish that information to the public. They aren’t even that sure of it themselves."

:: whistling ::

There it is.

Sep 15, 2018 12:04 PM #13
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Myrl Jeffcoat
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It's a good question, but it does pose a dilemma.  I have never been accused of an ethics violation, so don't really know the protocol for trying to defend against such an action.  I do know that in today's world, there seems to be many folks that get angry at the drop of a hat, sometimes without real cause, and can cause a lot of damage to a real estate professional's reputation.  Add to it, that our realm is highly competitive, and a complaint can be made to bump off some of the competition, and you have an arena that could be absolutely abused.  Still, I believe actual abuses of ethics should be explored and dealt with.

Sep 15, 2018 05:12 PM #14
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                                   Thank you, Elizabeth. 

Sep 15, 2018 05:27 PM #15
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Debbie Reynolds
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I believe in it and think we should all police each other. The Code is what sets us apart of just being real estate agents. I do think the results of hearings should be posted but not the names.

Sep 15, 2018 07:45 PM #16
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Barbara Todaro
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Good morning, Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Real Estate Agent, Top 1% of Lyon Agents ethic violations are never presented publicly and that's the reason for the great increase in those violations... no one is exposed.... so they continue to get their wrists slapped and do it again....

Sep 16, 2018 04:28 AM #17
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John Henry
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How often are licenses suspended or fines levied?  The Board of Architecture in Texas used to spell out each infraction and send it to members via email.

Sep 16, 2018 04:49 AM #18
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Sharon Tara
Sharon Tara Transformations - Portsmouth, NH
New Hampshire Home Stager

I'm not an agent, so I don't have all the information agents would have to answer this question. From a personal standpoint, I would like the information to be public and feel if something has been proven, it should be public knowledge.

Sep 16, 2018 03:40 PM #19
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
Solutions Real Estate - Carlsbad, CA
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The ethics violators, with names and photos, are at least published on the C.A.R. website for Association members to see, but not the public.

Sep 16, 2018 05:52 PM #20
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Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices - Beverly Hills, CA
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If you commit a crime and you are found guilty it becomes public information and anyone can read about your crime if they so chose to do. No different being a Realtor if you are found guilty there should be consequences, that is my  thought. Most of the time I have seen there is a no muss no foul mentality and it will keep the bad apples committing bad things. I always lived by the sword and will die by the sword, Endre

Sep 16, 2018 10:22 PM #21
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Debbie Gartner
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Interesting question.  As an outsider looking in, I'm kind of torn.  On the one hand, you want to protect the public.  On the other hand, some of the public already distrust realtors/real estate agents, so this can make the whole industry look worse due to a few bad apples.  But, I suppose if the violation is so egregious, the agent would lose their license.

 

I also wonder if the info was made public, if it would make the committees more willing to let something slide.

 

I'll have to read your article.

Sep 17, 2018 07:18 AM #22
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Jon Quist
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I'm sorry, but we should not protect offending agents. I follow the rules. It really isn't all that difficult.

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