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Why Some Real Estate aGents hated me and why I lost some customers!!!!

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Mortgage and Lending with AMERICAN CASH SOLUTIONS INC

Sigh.  Back in 2004 I was so disgusted when the head of a certain real estate group predicted on CNBC that house prices would continue to go up....and now they are going down.  I wondered....these forward looking statements are being relied upon by millions of first time homebuyers and exisitng home owners.  How is it that stocks are regulated on forward looking statements but housing has no such guidance? 

I have a prequalification letter in my archives congratulating a customer.  I congratulated this nice lady on being pre-qualified to buy a home up to $120,000 on Staten Island.  At that time the 30 year fNMA, SFR, 1 unit, Full doc loan was hovering from 8.5 % to 8.75%....and those rate I feel will come back after the extensive remaining foreclosures flood tha market in 2008(just my opinon there folks).  Will we see residential prices on Long Island go back below $200,00...I am in my opinion convinced we will see this in many towns.

Now what does all that rambling have to do with my headline? 

Remember that prequal letter?  You do?  Well that's good news!

But beofre I go on....some of you loan officers are thinking..."I only issue pre-approvals!"  Well get over it because both prequlas and preapprovals are both subject to actual full submission to the bank, the appriasal, title search...so just because the info was submitted online doesn't mean its alway better than a prequal...and you know why..........its called honesty.

Yes, I would obtain paystubs, w-2s, pull credit and obtain other info...write up the prequal letter, and BAM, like that famous chef would announce the price of the home that you are prequalified for.

Then I would get that pathetic phone call.  "Can you raise the price?  Please raise the price..they won't be able to work with me..all my inventory is $40,000 higher than what your prequal letter says!"

Now why do you who are reading this blog think I lost some customers and became hated by some real estate agents?

Do you think this scenario still exist?

(Keep in mind I don't do residential anymore and am doing Commercial) but with all the news of increasing foreclosures the remnants of residential closings still course through my veins!

So what do you think happened after that phone call?  Do you think raising the price after having already finalized your anlaysis is ethical???  (OMG are we discussing ethics here????)

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Dean Moss
Dean's Team - Keller Williams Realty Partners Chicago IL - Chicago, IL
Dean's Team Chicago IL Real Estate Team

Charles -

It's not the title on the piece of paper - it's the intent and due dilligence done by the lender.  Many didn't get things right then, and we agents are more suspect than ever now.

Let's hope your most dire predictions DO NOT come true!

DEAN & DEAN'S TEAM CHICAGO

Jun 06, 2008 07:49 AM
Karen Turney
Homesmart - Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix Real Estate

You can only qualify people for what they can afford.  But I do think that the market is getting better, I am seeing signs of it and from what I read here on AR so are many others.  However no matter where the market goes, you cant raise the price if the buyers numbers dont warrant it.  If you are underqualifying people based on what you see as negative market conditions thats a different story.

Jun 06, 2008 07:59 AM
Jimmy McCall
JimmyMcCall.com - Cunningham, TN
The Ex-Mortgage Consultant

Charles,   I would have to say the Realtor in this case talked your client into finding a lender who would get them pre-qualified for the extra $40,000.  This same Realtor is probably blaming lenders for the troubles we are having today.  While discounting his contribution to the mess.

Jun 06, 2008 08:03 AM
Charles G. Hennebeul
AMERICAN CASH SOLUTIONS INC - Melville, NY

Yes Dean, many lenders didn't get it right but my opinion is that realtors played a roled in this mess as well....but YOU are right to be suspicious of lenders...and by your mere suspicion you are definitely doing the right thing for your customers and I am glad you are not one of the realtors that contribuited to the problem and making consumers more suspicious of realtors!!

Karen-unfortunately more than once on full doc loans I was asked to raise the numbers and it was NOT because of underqulaifying..re read my blog and you will see the reason given was that the realtor was only looking at their inventory and didn't care if the customer would really qualify..but underqualifying based on negative market conditions is not what I discussed in this blog and I certainly didn't say I was doing that..did you have a loan officer do that to you?  That is a good way to make no money.?   

Jimmy-your response is the best and most commendable...its a big problem when a realtor crosses the line and interferes in an absolutely correct prequal letter being issued(KAren -make believe their is no underqualifying in this scenario and make believe the loan officers manager signed off ont he preqaul and the manager ahs 30 years of experience here)..and its disgusting when a realtor then goes and convinces the consumer that if you want this house you need to use there  in house mortgage broker because that OTHER mortgage broker's prequal letter is useless(when in fact it was not useless it was CORRECT and would have kept the consumers out of foreclosure had it not been circumvented by replacement of a puffed up prequal letter!!).    

Don't take any of this personal...I want us all to be upfront on this topic. I have many realtor friends ok?

Jun 06, 2008 08:25 AM