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Ask An Ambassador: They're ActiveRain Members, To A Certain Degree

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Real Estate Agent with Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com SAL.2002007747

a social Chihuahua ActiveRain is meant to be a social community.

If you think it's about SEO for your posts, well perhaps it used to be, but that's back in the day when ActiveRain management was willing to commit the resources to optimize the site.  For the last several years, it's been fairly obvious that ActiveRain has a lot more competition for real estate ranking (think ZTR among others), so management basically "punted" on the whole SEO thing.   SEO costs money and if you take a look around you know the bulk of the active people are working on a free account.

So with that in mind, how do we fit as a member of a social site?  IMO there are quite a few categories of ActiveRain members, some heavily into the social aspect, some middling, and some not at all.

And while ActiveRain management may condone certain behaviors here in the Rain because they're not technically anti-social, the net impact to most members is a negative.

For instance, we have the mega-market report folks.  Literally page after page after page of blog roll occupied almost exclusively by one or two individuals.  They are ActiveRain members in name, but not in social function.  Their posts MAY be open for your comments, but just as likely to be comments disabled.  You may find the reports useful, or based on what I've seen more commonly stated:  a hindrance to enjoying the community.  IMO people are less likely to explore the blog roll for new members who may write good stuff.  (side note:  you wonder why the same people get picked for features?  My engineering mind thinks sticking to the same people because of difficulty working through the general blog roll MAY increase the odds of the same people getting featured).

Then of course we have the outright spammers.  Need a "friend" in Bangalore?  Services are available.  Need keto?  Pharmaceuticals?  All that and more are available. Fortunately the lifespan for those profiles are short, but they breed like cockroaches.  It's a daily whack-a-mole exercise.  And within that group is the "we buy houses for cash WITHOUT agents".  Seriously, do they NOT realize who this site is intended for?

Then there are the 3rd party hired guns (the Fiverr.com types).  Some write legit posts, others are here to provide 3rd party link promotion.  Now some of them understand the difference between Rainer and Rainmaker so they're helping pay the bills.  Not ideal perhaps, but at least they're helping keep the lights on.   Their impact on the blog roll is minimal, so scroll on by.

And then by the 1000's are the bluehead profiles.  At best, they're basically using ActiveRain as a directory site.  Post a profile, but don't participate.  No posts, no comments.

Now within the social participation ranks, we've varying degrees too.

We've got the Q&A section only folks.  They'll ask questions, answer questions, but are rarely sighted outside of that section of the community.

Then you have the Agent Professor students with they're more or less standard list of questions and blog posts.  They'll participate for a bit, but rarely do I see a long term graduate continue on.  Considering their "welcome" is often less than friendly, who can blame them?

We have the vendors.  They write some informative posts and will respond to comments.  They're hoping to build business, and they might be spotted commenting around the community.
Next up are the sporadic participants.  They come and go from the Rain, participate fully for a bit, then POOF, disappear for months or even years, then remember how this place helped their business and THEY'RE BAAAAACK!

Then there are the regular participants, maybe every day, but at least a few days a week, week after week.  Some blog and engage for business, some more for the social aspect.  I started off social, but my focus is now much more business related.  I'll read a few posts and leave a few comments, maybe dip into the Q&A section now and then.  My only mandatory function is writing a post.  Other members are more hardcore with the social function.  They're going to max out their comments left every day.

We've got the whole spectrum covered in the Rain.  Participate a little, or a lot.  The choice is up to you.  Bottom line, if you're NOT participating, you're missing the entire point of the community.

Until next Tuesday, just Ask An Ambassador if you need help,

Bill of Bill & Liz aka BLiz

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Comments(32)

Lynn B. Friedman CRS Atlanta, GA 404-617-6375
Atlanta Homes ODAT Realty - Love our Great City - Love our Clients! Buckhead - Midtown - Westside - Atlanta, GA
Concierge Service for Our Atlanta Sellers & Buyers

Liz and Bill Spear 
Sometimes the truth is so obvious it needs to be pointed out --
Bottom line, if you're NOT participating, you're missing the entire point of the community.
Thanks - All the best - Lynn

Mar 18, 2020 08:33 AM
Liz and Bill Spear

Fundamentals are right in front of us, how we choose to use them is up to us.

Mar 18, 2020 09:05 AM
Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
DFW FINE PROPERTIES - Flower Mound, TX
Selling Homes Changing Lives

Liz and Bill Spear - 

Bill, for a logical man, you are still very creative and I love how you and Liz hold your heads up high enough to look at membership squarely in the eye and call it like it is, which is the truth! As I read through the comments, it's really good to see how many people agree with you and recognize themselves. Personally, I have always been a fan of yours and admire the logical thinkers.

By focusing on the premise, "ActiveRain is meant to be a social community," we can all relax and think about what that means to us, individually. In this current state of affairs with the Coronavirus, we are all learning a different lifestyle and alternative ways to stay in business. Now, more than ever, AR and its "social community," has a chance to thrive even better - but that really does depend on membership, and what each person is willing to give.

As for Q&A, personally, I am not a fan. I poked around a bit (a teeny, tiny bit) but noticed things about it that did not fit my fancy. Therefore, I opt out of Q&A because I never thought it was being utilized for the right purpose. And if I get some backlash, in my opinion, so be it...

As for your summary, I love it!!! I'm also very glad you are, by what I consider one of the best Ambassadors on ActiveRain, and I consider you to be in the top three, with Lenn Harley being #1. 

Mar 18, 2020 08:47 AM
Liz and Bill Spear

I can only be me, and that includes being realistic about my working & social environments.  I can't control them exactly, but I can control how much effort I put into them, who I allow to be a part of my daily life (MUCH more snoozing/unfollowing on Facebook the last few months).

I'm finding it useful to see how others are being impacted by COVID-19 and how local businesses are adapting.

Fyi, you might want to take another look at the Q&A section.  It's just my opinion, but I think the removal of points for answers has mostly had the desired effect.  More meaningful questions and answers and less "fluff".

Thanks for the compliment, much appreciated :)

Mar 18, 2020 09:08 AM
Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP

Sondra Meyer: Thank you!!!

Mar 18, 2020 10:37 AM
Sondra Meyer:

Well said Patricia!      

Mar 18, 2020 10:11 AM
Liz and Bill Spear

No doubt, COVID-19 is getting the full spectrum of treatment.  Conspiracy to natural, nothing to pandemic.  We're being cautious here and trips out are very limited.  I've had no requests to show a home in the last week, so just answering the occasional email and phone call to go along with the usual daily activities.

Mar 18, 2020 10:54 AM
Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP

Liz and Bill Spear - I'm not one to put my head in the sand and I do like to learn. I'll give Q&A another chance. 


As for COVID-19, this is not something to ignore. We need to stay vigilant, not get hung up on fear and conspiracy theories, and be realistic and educated! I remember 2008 and that period of time in which it shook the real estate industry to the core. Since it was my first rodeo in that department (I started in January 2003, I was very, very concerned). A wise agent who had been around for more than 35 years told me, if you survive this, you can rest assured, newer agents will drop out like flies and you will learn more than sitting in training classes. Plus, you'll discover deeper meaning to what it means to really provide quality services and it won't be easy. I found that she was 100% accurate. 

Mar 18, 2020 10:35 AM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Bill,

You have certainly done a complete assessment of what is happening on this platform.  Like you, I like the removal of points on Q &A.  Cheers, A

Mar 18, 2020 09:44 AM
Liz and Bill Spear

It may not have been a popular move with everyone, but I think the intent was achieved.

Mar 18, 2020 10:29 AM
Catherine Ulrey
Keller Williams Capital City - Salem, OR
Equestrian and Acreage Property Specialist

"Hi My name is Catherine.  I am a sporadic participant."  Lol..  It's true.  

Mar 18, 2020 12:12 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

But when you reappear, I know who you are :)

Mar 18, 2020 12:22 PM
Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

Hi Bill,
AR has a depth of opportunity that not everyone understands or chooses to take advantage of. It's kind of like my computer or phone. I certainly don't use them to their highest potential. Some choose not to spend their time utilizing the full potential.  It does disturb me that the serial posters are actually hurting the rest of us. 

Mar 18, 2020 01:20 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

I could be wrong about them, but I don't think I am.  I think many members won't explore for new members because it's just too much trouble to wade through the blog roll.  And then newer members get fewer comments, so they ease off of blogging.  It's potentially a downward spiral.

Mar 18, 2020 01:26 PM
John Henry, Florida Architect
John Henry Masterworks Design International, Inc. - Orlando, FL
Residential Architect, Luxury Custom Home Design

Bill, you represent the conscience of AR.  Thank you for your continued efforts and amazing ability to write about something nearly every day!!!

Mar 18, 2020 01:20 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

I want this site to prosper for the short and long term, but it's a bit challenging when it seems like there's a conscious neglect by ownership.  I appreciate the lights are on and the doors open, but when you've seen what the place was and see what it is now, it's hard to ignore the gap.

Mar 18, 2020 01:29 PM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

“I sound my barbaric yawp over the rooftops of the world.”...Walt Whitman

I am here. Before that I know not. After that I know not. Only of the NOW do I know for sure. I share that sure and delight in it.....  richfuscious

Mar 18, 2020 01:31 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

I like the Whitman quote!  The NOW we know, the rest, TBD.

Mar 18, 2020 08:17 PM
Mimi Foster
Falcon Property Company - Colorado Springs, CO
Voted Colorado Springs Best Realtor

I want one of those puppies  You definitely summed it up. I'm one who is intense for a while, life gets in the way and I'm gone, but like most families, I always find my way back. Thanks for your insightful post.

Mar 18, 2020 02:56 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

Life happens, and you've had a pretty big event to deal with.

Mar 18, 2020 08:17 PM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I try to be a middler, but life.  And I try not to be bothered by the people who post pages of market reports.

Mar 18, 2020 06:13 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

You've only had a FEW....DOZEN...things going on.

Mar 18, 2020 08:18 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Bill I did not read the comments did not want to be influenced... in all fairness I am a big believer of life being a two way street, If you comment on my post and support my post I will make sure to take the effort and reply to one of your posts. Now if you are always one way guess what I will stop visiting you... You forgot to add that into your mix, just sayin Hope you are staying safe Endre

Mar 18, 2020 09:58 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

I'm probably on the other end of the spectrum.  My time for commenting has been more limited.  I get around as I can, and that's not much, and that's unlikely to change soon.  It doesn't bother me if I leave a comment somewhere and I don't get one back.

Mar 19, 2020 06:21 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Bill:

This is a pretty accurate dsecriptions of our membership. Indeed, it is a diverse community in many ways, and it's become far more so in recent years. But those who participate, engage, share, compliment, empathesize, sympathize, educate, and so on are the ones who endure, and who will matter to others long-term.  You just have to try to ignore the rest.

Jeff

Mar 18, 2020 10:16 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

Doing all those things you mention seems to optimize the community effect and help form the bonds that encourage us to stick around.

Mar 19, 2020 06:21 AM
Mimi Foster
Falcon Property Company - Colorado Springs, CO
Voted Colorado Springs Best Realtor

I'm also sorry that AR doesn't consider the serial spammer from Re/Max Suburban who doesn't even allow comments worth zapping. We have our habits in the Rain. When I want to read, I check out Featured Posts, then those I'm following, but rarely anymore will I check out the general blog roll because of two spammers who are making it challenging for the rest of us to find good content. And that's a shame, because a lot of people with good content will get lost in the pile of worthless rubbish. Thanks for all you do to make this a place to be.

Mar 19, 2020 06:15 AM
Liz and Bill Spear

I know I've seen the "official" explanation.  Not violating community guidelines, etc., but like you I do feel it's detrimental to the overall health of the community as it stands when entire pages of blog roll are nothing but Marco.  You have the misfortunate of publishing in the middle of one of those blog storms and you best have a big subscribed to base or your chances of being read just dropped way down. 

We'll keep doing what we can within the boundaries of the place to help make it better.

Mar 19, 2020 06:27 AM
Mimi Foster

He may not be violating community guidelines, but he's ruining the community. Can't he be hidden? Like those extremists on FB that are still there but you don't have to see them? 

Mar 19, 2020 07:14 AM
Liz and Bill Spear

AR has the topics that can be filtered on the blog roll, but that's just one topic at a time.  I'd guess that's more cumbersome than just clicking NEXT PAGE a bunch of times.

Mar 19, 2020 07:42 PM
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Which puppy is that? 🐶
And everything else you said.

Mar 19, 2020 06:54 AM
Liz and Bill Spear

That's Hairy Winston about a month ago.  He's MUCH hairier now :)

Mar 19, 2020 06:56 AM
Candice A. Donofrio
❤🐶❤
Mar 19, 2020 07:17 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Hi Bill- we can get out of ActiveRain what we want to, it's all up to us. It's too bad that those who don't choose to interact are really missing out on what I consider to be the best part of this community. 

Mar 19, 2020 08:58 AM
Liz and Bill Spear

I've made a lot of friends here, some I've met in person, most I haven't.  None of that happens without participation.

Mar 19, 2020 07:43 PM
Beth and Richard Witt
New York, NY
The best Retired Brokers !!!!

Hi Bill Liz and Bill Spear Always enjoy your posts......

First- not sure what a blog roll is.. 

Second... I left the Rain for a while due to the fact that my poor 80-year-old body was sick and we sold Wittney Estates.... I hate being retired.. Rich is a lot younger than I and enjoys great health so he is still buying houses for all cash when NYS laws don't make doing so a nightmare.

At any rate, I love the social aspect of the rain.

In fact, I've been thinking of starting a group  "Think It... Believe It" 

I feel that staying positive and close to God is life-enhancing and I love helping others stay on a positive path.

As always I value your opinion and would love to know your thoughts about my comment.

I also have over 1700 pages written on Real Estate Training which I share some of once in a while because I feel that so many agents today are not getting the training they should be getting.

Happy Day to you and Liz ... Stay Well and know that I sincerely appreciate all that you do to make the Rain a place I enjoy being it... 

Mar 19, 2020 12:02 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

First, always good to see you back when you have time!  And also first, do what you need to do to take care of yourself!
I suspect Rich has plenty of competition on the houses for cash based on all the talk about it lately.

It can't hurt to start a group, and with active moderation I think they can still do well.  I think most groups in the Rain have lost momentum.  One with a positive attitude should be welcome.

I think that 1700 pages of real estate info is a valuable resource.  For too many agents, I'm not sure they ever get the fundamental training that matters.

Mar 19, 2020 07:46 PM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

All good points & yes we had a surprise re-visitor today! Ironic it was the same time as your post.

 

Mar 19, 2020 02:05 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

3 years gap and there's a boomerang :)

Mar 19, 2020 07:48 PM
Christine Wade
Christine Wade - Derby, VT
Operations Strategist / Online Business Manager

Bill, I read every one of the comments before beginning my own...while I so appreciate Active Rain for the gifts it has blessed me with, I have put considerable work into the community as well back in the glory days....BUT, then life and divorce and raising kids on one income so had to suffer back to the corporate world while still keeping up with a few loyal Virtual Assistant clients on the "side"...no energy left for creating quality content... but it was always a craving to come back. I popped in off and on over the years, but this is my first time really being back in years. I miss the "How To" posts, the video tutorials, etc...I loved to learn here, and share as I could my own knowledge...the feeling is different for sure. But maybe, like I myself have at times in my own career, Active Rain is going through growing pains....only to benefit from our comments and requests? I came back and tried to pick up where I left off, participating how we were originally taught... blog post most days, 10 comments min, respond to all comments left on my posts, follow people, check in on their blogs, then go through the blog roll to find new stuff that hasn't been featured...but the scrolling required to get past the repetitive posts to the good stuff is tedious at best. Better filtering options of the blog roll, as well as of the Q&A section, are things that I personally would like to add to the "wish list"

Mar 19, 2020 05:59 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

The mass market reports can be tough to wade through.  I'm afraid based on recent history that any "I wishes" are tough to get from concept to reality. 

Mar 19, 2020 07:49 PM
Elyse Berman, PA
LoKation Real Estate - Boca Raton, FL
Boca Raton FL (561) 716-7824

Bill,  You did a great job of summing it up.  I'm one of those who disappear for some time and then bounce back, but there's a legitimate reason.  When we're busy, we have to go with it.  Something has to give and it's blogging for me.

However, I love this community, the friends I've made through the years, the networking and kind people helping each other.  I, for one, am glad it's still around despite my from time-to-time absences.

Mar 19, 2020 06:34 PM
Liz and Bill Spear

We know you always come back :)

Mar 19, 2020 07:52 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Well said!  There are those that participate all the time and some of us as often as we can, to hit the high points.  LOL, blue heads! 

Mar 20, 2020 10:00 AM
Liz and Bill Spear

We each find our own stride for this place.

Mar 20, 2020 07:16 PM
Thom Abbott
MyMidtownMojo.com |770.713.1505 | Intown Atlanta GA Condo Living - Atlanta, GA
Midtown Atlanta GA Condos For Sale

You always hit the nail on the head! 

Mar 24, 2020 09:14 AM