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Bank/Seller wants my buyer to pay more than appraised value...Are you kidding me?

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Real Estate Agent with Beach & Luxury Realty, Inc.

Thanks to Dionne Morgan's post Are Foreclosures Like Bad Apples?, she saw what I had written as a comment to her and informed me that I had a blog within that comment. So, without further ado and to her little prod...here it is:

I have been working with a buyer for quite some time who is already approved for financing. This is very important in today's market...to know what the buyer's threshold is and I know it!

My buyer fell in love with a property as it suited all his needs...country setting and plenty of room in the house to be able to handle all his music equipment. This was perfect...one downside...it is a foreclosure! My buyer is qualified for financing (as I mentioned) through VA. The listing agent and I did not think there would be an issue.

Our first offer that was submitted was countered a few times before being accepted. By the time we received the contract back signed, we needed to make one minor adjustment...we needed to extend the closing date a little. The bank came back with a "we will not do this and now that we think about it, we are uncomfortable with VA financing". Had we not had to extend the closing date, we would have closed in May.

So, we play the wait and see game and notice that the property is still available after the extended date we asked to close. We submit another offer including the needed repairs to be taken care of prior to closing. We gave the bank their asking price so that they would accept it with the repairs to be completed.

We go back under contract on this foreclosed home and the appraisal came in $10,000 lower than the contract price! My buyer still wanted the property, so we thought (stupid us) that the bank would go through with the deal at the appraised price and we would close! WRONG!!!

The bank has now, several weeks later, lowered the asking price to BELOW what the appraisal came in at (how stupid), so we submitted another offer...A LOT LOWER, due to some new property condition issues! Someone (probably kids) had noticed that the property is vacant and decided to somehow obtain entrance into the property and damaged walls and gave the appearance they were "living" there. Had the bank not been so idiotic, we would have closed on June 2nd and none of the new damage would have occurred, as there would have been contractors performing the repairs, so no one would have dared entered the home, knowing there was activity!

What makes the bank think for one second that a buyer is going to pay MORE for a property than what it appraises for, especially in this market? Let alone, the buyer's lender won't allow it! This is a bank that owns the property...HELLO out there...you lend money, obviously, this is why you have the property back!

So, now we are back to the drawing table! What a fun business this is.

If only I had done better in school when it came to jumping hurdles!businessman hurdle

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Tony Tony
Potomac, MD

There are just too many houses out there to buy an overpriced property. By advising your client to walk away I have found it creates loyalty.

Jun 18, 2008 06:13 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Cris, this is a post about sheer stoopidity!  These guys just have to understnand that they may understand some stuff about banking, but they need expert help to unload their real estate assets.  Yikes!

Jun 18, 2008 06:13 AM
Larry Story ALC
Total Care Realty - Greensboro, NC
Beneath it all is the Land, Covering all of NC

That is very strange of the bank.  It is not like they will finance it at that price!

Jun 18, 2008 06:16 AM
Cris Burlew
Beach & Luxury Realty, Inc. - Saint Pete Beach, FL
Broker ~ St Pete Beach FL Real Estate

Anthony you are so correct...I sometimes wonder if the banks get it? My buyer is loyal...he drives by a property, then calls me and we go look at it, as long as it meets his criteria.

Thanks for reading.

Jun 18, 2008 06:16 AM
Vickie McCartney
Maverick Realty - Owensboro, KY
Broker, Real Estate Agent Owensboro KY

Chris~ Incredible but true.  Hard to believe that the banks are so short sighted in this situation.  But, that is probably good for your buyer because he should end up with an even better deal now! 

Jun 18, 2008 06:18 AM
Cris Burlew
Beach & Luxury Realty, Inc. - Saint Pete Beach, FL
Broker ~ St Pete Beach FL Real Estate

Pat...maybe I should have titled it Sheer Stupidity...because you are correct, that's exactly what it is! You also make a good point that they may know banking, but need our help when it comes to real estate!

Jun 18, 2008 06:19 AM
Cris Burlew
Beach & Luxury Realty, Inc. - Saint Pete Beach, FL
Broker ~ St Pete Beach FL Real Estate

Larry, how true. It makes me wonder what they are thinking (or maybe they are not?)

Jun 18, 2008 06:20 AM
Cris Burlew
Beach & Luxury Realty, Inc. - Saint Pete Beach, FL
Broker ~ St Pete Beach FL Real Estate

Vickie, that is what are hoping for...an even better deal! Yes, the banks are somewhat short sighted...but we are dealing with individuals who collect a salary and work only Mon - Fri. Wonder what they would do if they had to work on commission?

Jun 18, 2008 06:26 AM
Cris Burlew
Beach & Luxury Realty, Inc. - Saint Pete Beach, FL
Broker ~ St Pete Beach FL Real Estate

Greg, I know they have to way too many in their system. You are also correct in that there are too many inexperienced people working on these at the lenders these days. They got bombarded and had to hire temps to keep up with everything.

I worked in the banking industry in the early 90's in New England when banking & insurance went down the toilet, so I know what it's like. I had a couple of friends who were REO managers and they used to tell me a good day, was when they had zero in their portfolio's - they would strike deals just to get rid of the inventory.

Jun 18, 2008 06:32 AM
BLR Guy
BLRGUY(Beach & Luxury Realty Inc) - Saint Pete Beach, FL

The thing is,you have someone making the decisions who is just looking at the numbers and doesn't have a clue!

They hired a real estate agent to help them with this,as they are experienced in this field...but yet,they do not take their advice and now will be losing even more money as that property is now priced below what your buyer was going to pay them after the appraisal...nice job Mr Banker!

Jun 19, 2008 10:07 AM
BLR Guy
BLRGUY(Beach & Luxury Realty Inc) - Saint Pete Beach, FL

The thing is,you have someone making the decisions who is just looking at the numbers and doesn't have a clue!

They hired a real estate agent to help them with this,as they are experienced in this field...but yet,they do not take their advice and now will be losing even more money as that property is now priced below what your buyer was going to pay them after the appraisal...nice job Mr Banker!

Jun 19, 2008 10:07 AM
BLR Guy
BLRGUY(Beach & Luxury Realty Inc) - Saint Pete Beach, FL

The thing is,you have someone making the decisions who is just looking at the numbers and doesn't have a clue!

They hired a real estate agent to help them with this,as they are experienced in this field...but yet,they do not take their advice and now will be losing even more money as that property is now priced below what your buyer was going to pay them after the appraisal...nice job Mr Banker!

Jun 19, 2008 10:07 AM
Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor

Cris - BLRGuy is right about the bank person only looking at the numbers! It can be extremely frustrating when you are dealing with foreclosures!!!! And I have heard before that some banks shy away from VA while others do not...........foreclosures can be a real pain in the neck!!! We are dealing with a couple right now and it is always such a waiting game that it drives me up a wall -

Jun 23, 2008 12:08 AM
Will Merritt
TampaBayLoanOfficer - Pinellas Park, FL
Tampa Bay's Most Trusted Lender

What is the latest on this one??

Jun 24, 2008 09:30 AM
Dionne Morgan
Realty World Solano Realty - Vallejo, CA
Broker REALTOR ,GRI, e-PRO

Cris, Thanks for your kind acknowledgement. I don't know how I miss this blog but I am just in time for an update. How did this story end?

I am confused.

Is it just me or it is it that some lenders are slow to get a clue?  I hope by now that you have found multiple options for your buyer.  I hope that in time the lending industry would standardize their thinking. Of course I am only being wishful. Take care.

 

Jul 26, 2008 07:21 PM