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Rate versus affordability

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Mortgage and Lending with Major Mortgage USA/Branch Manager

Mr. Belonger  has written another wonderful post about payment versus rate and that got me to thinking about a client of mine or 2.

  About a year ago this young couple came to be and they wanted to get start the process of looking to buy their first home.  So we pull their credit and lets just say that a year later we are ready to go. 

So I ask the question what payment range will you be comfortable in..... 

the response well we are paying $1100 in rent right now and the home we are renting is in foreclosure and we would like to buy it (  keep in mind that I am only speaking with the wife as the hubby is the sole breadwinner for this lovely lady and their 4 wonderful little girls) We really haven't talked about what we can afford and this all came up a little faster than we expected. 

(she continues on) the home is listed for $270,000 so what are we looking at ........

Approximately, $2000 with insurance and taxes and MI  (I can see the wind just deflate out of her sail).

Sigh, we can afford that, but...........  

We spend the rest of our time together roughing out a budget and talking about the time frame for the foreclosure process.  The court hearing that is coming up and she as the tennet will be attending. We worked through differnet price levels and what the payments would be, I showed her on the listing page that she had where the taxes were and what insurance might run per month.  We worked up what every $10,000 would cost them on a monthly basis and if rates drop or went up just how that would make the payment move (an .25% move is approximately $44 on $265,000. She was shocked at how little it really was)

 As we parted ways, her last comment was

it looks like we will be sitting down tonight and working up a budget.

  As, I have written before in I dont care what my rate is and Mr. Belonger's point about shopping and shopping for that lowest rate and what it might cost you.  Is an 1/8 th of a point that big of a deal or in other words is $20 worth losing your earnest money over becuase you can't close in time????? 

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Paul McDuell
Realty Benefit - Rancho Santa Margarita, CA

Nothing like knowing a good lender that you can count on!

Jun 20, 2008 04:11 AM
R. B. "Bob" Mitchell - Loan Officer Raleigh/Durham
Bank of England (NMLS#418481) - Raleigh, NC
Bob Mitchell (NMLS#1046286)

I think that it's a case of people sometimes being penny wise and pound foolish...especially when the person who is quoting them the lower rate is either bsing them (there are no magic investors out there) or it's one of these call-center mortgage company where your "loan officer" is sitting there with a head set on playing nerf basketball while he's talking to you.

What people don't know is that when they hang up with you, another call is pumped to them. After they hang up with that person, another...then another...

While I'm sure that not all call-centers work this way, from what I understand this is pretty much standard for the industry. 

A home purchase is far too complicated to trust to someone who doesn't have a vested interest in making sure that it closes.  So, even if they are an 1/8th cheaper...even a 1/4 or 1/2 point cheaper, it's better to go with the known commodity!

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc.

Jun 20, 2008 04:26 AM
Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

Amen Joe.  No matter what rates are, people will always buy & sell homes ... and need money.  My piece of advice for folks who are rate shopping, if they call a shop and ask them "What's your Rate?" and they quote you a rate, hang up!  It will save you money.

Jun 20, 2008 04:42 AM
James Wexler
wexzilla.com - Scottsdale, AZ

Joe

People need to understand that there are so many factors in a loan product.  Clearly rate is important but potentially losing a home could be much more costly.  Unfortunately people love what they perceive to be a bargin.  They always will. 

by the way, Do you have an outside blog that I can add to my Blogroll ?

Thanks and look forward to reading your thoughts on the world of real estate.

Jun 22, 2008 06:26 AM
Lew Corcoran
Better Living Real Estate, LLC - East Bridgewater, MA
Expert guidance. Exceptional results.

I couldn't agree with you more, Joe and Jason. "Rate Shoppers" as we in the industry like to call them, really are doing themselves a great disservice. If they're looking for just the lowest rate and fees, then when they get to the settlement table they'll wonder what in the world happened when they didn't get that what they thought they were going to get - if they get there at all!

As I tell these "Rate Shoppers," if you're interested in just getting a quote for rate and fees without providing some additional information, please, call my competitors. They will be more than happy to. They give them out all day long! But if you want an honest quote, then be prepared to spend a little time with me and provide some additional informtation. That way we both can be sure they get the loan product that best meets their needs. 

I just happened to have written about this issue in a faily recent blog post titled "Shopping for a Mortgage Should be a Lot Like Shopping for Car Insurance." In case the link doesn't work, the url is http://activerain.com/blogsview/536081/Shopping-for-a-Mortgage.

Jun 23, 2008 12:35 AM