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Mortgage Secrets 'They' Don't Want You To Know About - Part 1

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Mortgage Secrets 'They' Don't Want You To Know About - Part 1

 

When the Lowest Rate Makes the Most Sense

 

The lowest rate never makes the most sense.  Or, hardly ever.  Sounds like something a lender with high rates would say, huh?  Well, hear me out.  First, the rates I offer are extremely competitive.  Lowest in the industry?  Nope, and for good reason (if you've seen the recent better.com layoff saga, you're witness to how the companies with the lowest rates are run).  But our rates are always competitive, and I still don't think most people should opt for the lowest rate.  I don't have the lowest rate I could have gotten on my home.  Neither do my parents.  Why?  Because strategy, cost, and long term planning is more important than rate.


The lowest rate offers the most benefit to a home owner long term, over the course of the life of the loan.  Why?  Because the lowest rate comes with the highest cost.  Check out the table below.  What you're seeing is a sample rate sheet, and from left to right the numbers are Rate, APR (skewed because no closing costs are factored into this sample), P&I (principal plus interest, aka your monthly payment), discount/rebate as both a % (points) and dollar amount.  Remember, one point is 1% of a loan amount, so you're seeing fractions of points as a % and a dollar amount, that is what it costs to get that rate (positive numbers), or the dollars that would go back to the borrower as a lender credit (negative numbers).

Now knowing that, think of all the people you know that have taken out a mortgage then paid that mortgage off over the amortization period - that is, the length of the original loan (in most cases, 30 years).  If you happen to know someone that has, you can rest assured of 2 things.  1) It's not common and I'd bet all the people you know who have done it could be counted on less than 3 fingers, and 2) you should have been a better friend and talked that person into refinancing at some point because when they got their loan the rates were in the double digits!


What does this have to do with rate?  Well, look at the difference on this chart between 3% and 2.99% - sure, the person with the lowest rate can tell people their rate starts with a '2', but they paid $313 to get the lower rate at a difference of $1/month.  So if they have their loan for just over 26 years, the lower rate will finally pay off.  Now let's look at the difference between 3.25% and 3.5% - in this scenario, there's a monthly payment difference of $35.  There's a difference in cost of 1 point, or in this case, $2500.  If  we divide the cost by the monthly payment difference, it shows that the "breakeven" on when the lower rate would start paying off is 71 months, or just under 6 years.  So at 6 years, the lower rate makes sense, right?


Wrong.  It certainly makes some sense.  But, what if rates drop during those 6 years?  If they drop enough to refinance, the cost of the lower rate would have been wasted.  If the home is sold and the loan is paid off, again, the lower and more expensive rate is a waste.  But beyond that, if, instead of paying $2500 to get a lower rate, that $2500 invested with a 5% return over 6 years would be worth $3350.  So you can see, that even at 6 years when the 'breakeven' point occurs, there is still an extended period before the lowest rate is the best use of money.  Of course, if you take the up front savings of $2500 and spend it on bubble gum, it's probably not the smartest move, but if you consider the big financial picture, getting the lowest rate either rarely makes sense, or makes sense over a fairly long period of time.


Does it ever make sense to get the lowest rate?  Sure.  Well, maybe not the lowest rate (rate sheets get really expensive really fast when you go too far outside of 'normal market' rates), but a lower rate makes sense in a few circumstances.  If you know you'll have a loan for a long period of time and you expect a rising interest rate environment (which we haven't seen in the US since the 80's), the lowest possible rate makes sense.  If the cost of a lower rate is really low and creates a breakeven point of just a couple months or (again, if you'll have the loan long term) a couple years, then it can make sense as well.


Consumers have been conditioned to shop on rate.  Why?  It's easy to market, and easy to sell as a lender.  Compare rates, pick the lowest, it has the lowest payment, and we close!  And to be candid, most people aren't financially savvy or well versed in financial planning, so choosing a loan based on rate or APR is the easy way, albeit not necessarily the smart way (APR includes costs of a loan and therefore is advertised as a superior way to shop, but it also has it's pitfalls - for example, an APR can be lower or higher based on absolutely no differences to the loan other than which day of the month it closes - how does that help anyone??).


Further, lending at higher rates, despite the seeming benefit to the lender in the form of more interest paid, is risky business for banks.  Why?  Well, using the example above, someone has to pay that lender credit.  The bank is banking on (pun intended) a borrower making payments long enough to offset the initial lender credit.  If a borrower refinances, sells their home, or the mortgage is paid off early for any reason, the bank loses.  


The Fine Print

 

When shopping for a loan, rate is certainly important.  APR is as well.  It's extremely important though to consider the total cost, along with some intangibles like the length of time to be spent in a house, if rates are rising or falling, and economic factors that your loan officer should be aware of (for example, as of writing this, we see a tightening yield curve and Fed action that could trigger a recession - typically a falling rate environment).  If you're shopping lenders with the lowest rates, don't expect professionals that can give sound advice or offer much beyond a rate quote.  And if you're shopping for the lowest rate, consider this post, and read the fine print - if a loan with a low rate is costing you an arm and a leg (or thanks to inflation, perhaps 2 arms and 2 legs), think twice about the real value in the lowest rate - usually, there is none.

 

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John Meussner
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Comments(13)

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Kevin Vitali
EXIT Realty Beatrice Associates - Middleton, MA
Helping Massachusetts Home Buyers and Home Sellers

John Meussner I was a mortgage originator for many years.  It was always funny when someone shopped my rate but weren't comparing apples to apples.  The lowest rate loan is not always the cheapest loan.

Dec 13, 2021 01:53 PM
John Meussner

Very true Kevin - we need to change the way people shop, because the "cheapest" option often costs people in excess.

Dec 13, 2021 02:00 PM
Andrea Bedard
Thompson Company, REALTORS® 240.593.2860 - Silver Spring, MD
Fluent in Real Estate & German. Associate Broker.

Thank you John Meussner! I don't have the lowest rate, and I am okay with that. I checked into a refi when it looked like it would make sense on paper. But I really didn't like the thought of having to start over with 30, plus I am not sure how much longer I'll actually be in this home. 

For fun though, I sometimes check into these crazy low rates and then roll my eyes at the fees some of them charge. Geez. 

Dec 13, 2021 07:53 PM
John Meussner

Thanks for the comment Andrea Bedard - the costs out there are insane!  The inspiration for the post was a friend who's lender wanted to charge him $20k+ in closing costs to get a rate that started with a '1' - we did a HELOC at no cost with less than $1k in total cost to the borrower instead, the wrong decision almost cost him $20k!

Dec 14, 2021 01:05 PM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hello John - there's always a story of some kind behind the numbers.  

Dec 14, 2021 03:40 AM
John Meussner

Yep, numbers at face value dont mean much!

Dec 14, 2021 01:06 PM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Real Estate Broker

Good morning, John... a FANTASTIC post. So many people don't understand the nuances of this issue. And my experience is that most lenders do not review these issues and decision points with their clients.

Carol Williams good morning, Carol... my suggestion for Second Chance Saturday.

Dec 14, 2021 05:04 AM
John Meussner

Thanks Nina Hollander, Broker : )  With the low rate environment of the past 2 years TONS of call centers and inexperienced "loan officers" have entered the industry....they dont understand finance, and are trained to simply pitch rate and take an application, so I think this info is really important to share!

Dec 14, 2021 01:06 PM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

This is a very good overview of the differences of loan options - the rate itself is only one piece of the puzzle.

Dec 14, 2021 05:15 AM
Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I enjoy sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Author, Golfer, Traveler, Retired, Wenatchee, WA

Hi John,
Your opening line is certainly an attention-getter!  You are so right about low rates. People need to seriously consider their short-term and long-term housing needs before making a decision on which loan program to lock into.

Dec 14, 2021 05:18 AM
John Meussner

Yep!  The wrong decision can end up being super expensive!

Dec 14, 2021 01:07 PM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Retired Broker/Owner - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Great article John.  Rate shopping isn't something I hear often from most folks - but I know it's out there.  I tend to look at the longer term cost scenario and assist folks in seeing what there's will be - which make way more sense.  I don't know anyone who's kept of mortgage for 30 years.  Most have either sold and bought again, over and over or refied whenever it made sense.  Which it's made sense to many this past number of years or so.

Dec 14, 2021 09:54 AM
John Meussner

We see it all the time, and a lot of time, it's from customers as they go under contract, which is a really bad time to start shopping!

Dec 14, 2021 01:37 PM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Retired Home Stager/Redesign

Hi John- unless someone is working with a professional, such as yourself, you can end up paying a lot more. 

Dec 18, 2021 01:48 PM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Retired Home Stager/Redesign

Dec 18, 2021 06:09 PM
John Meussner

Thanks Kathy : )

Dec 19, 2021 09:54 AM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Oswego, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Good morning John. Excellent post on comparing apples to apples. So many variables, just like the variety of apples. so few think it through! Enjoy your day.

Dec 19, 2021 05:42 AM
Grant Schneider
Performance Development Strategies - Armonk, NY
Your Coach Helping You Create Successful Outcomes

Hi John - outstanding analysis which I totally follow but many don't do this good an analysis.

Dec 19, 2021 11:45 AM
John Meussner

Thanks Grant!

Dec 20, 2021 09:27 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Great education and analysis here, John. So many good points for buyers to keep in mind, and do their research. I think most DO focus just on the rate and not all the other factors and costs that go into getting that rate.

Dec 19, 2021 05:46 PM
John Meussner

Appreciate it, Jeff!  In the current market of rising rates, a LOT  (unfortunately) of lenders resort to 'too good to be true' rates with big costs in the fine print.

Dec 20, 2021 09:27 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Apex Realtors, LLC ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
Educating. Encouraging. Serving.

Good morning John Meussner ,

I'm so glad that Kathy Streib featured you post in her "Ah-Ha" moments for the week! Great tips..many points buyers really need to consider when going with a lender and what they have to offer.

Dec 20, 2021 06:33 AM