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Attention Investment Shoppers, It's Time to Buy Scottsdale Real Estate!

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Real Estate Agent with Homesmart

There are some downright stupid buys to be had in the current Real Market here in Scottsdale.  In the past two days, I have looked at three different properties that were $100,000-$200,000 under market in my estimation.  Given they were located in my primary market, my estimation is pretty darn accurate if I do say so myself.  And I do.  

It seems that the investor activity on the fringes of the Valley is trickling into the more central locations like McCormick Ranch, South Scottsdale and the Kierland area.  Why?  Because of the outbreak of crazy values like these few I mention.  While I have written at length about the pitfalls of the bank-owned buying craze, I must say that many of the better values as of late have been bank properties.  Sure, most require some work, but we're talking tens to hundreds of thousands under market ... even in the current distressed condition.  Now I caution that many of these homes are not going to be suitable for end users or amateurs.  It will take a professional investor to see past the current grime and filth.  In some extreme cases, the properties may even have trouble qualifying for conventional financing due to the condition.  Picture a crack house where the owner's fellow crack addicts are concerned about how he really let the place go.  Think banks are tough on properties in primo shape right now?  Try running one with animal feces ground into the carpet and holes in the walls past them.  Okay, they aren't all that bad, and some are actually in very livable shape, but the cash and/or private financing that many professionals operate with still gives them a decided advantage. 

What I am having trouble understanding is why some of these prices are so incredibly low.  I know that banks are eager to offload them, and the incentive to the buyer must be strong enough to look past the required fixup, but some of these properties are overshooting (or should I say undershooting) the mark by such a wide margin that it is simply staggering.  My hypothesis?  Out of area agents offering BPOs (broker price opinions) to out of area banks.  I don't know of many institutions that are hiring specific agents for individual properties based on their locational specialty.  They simply have a group of agents to whom the listings are funneled, and it's often luck of the draw as to who gets what.  So they run their numbers, not knowing the neighborhoods, builders and specific submarket forces, and come up with an unenlightened evaluation.  Taking it a step further, they will dutifully report the treacherous Valley wide market conditions, spurring the bank to lop even more off the asking price. 

With this cheap inventory being pounced on immediately, it is not an easy prey.  Like the supernova that erupted our market in '05, the current low end of the market is generating multiple offers and bidding wars, and selling within 48 hours of hitting the market.  You don't want to bring American Express to one of these.  Cash is king.

Even with the spring high season behind us, the sheer absurdity of some of these prices is bringing non-Phoenix residents back to town in the midst of 110+ degree heat.  While there is ample competition for the very best deals, the odds of securing such a steal are significantly better than they were a few months ago when all of the seasonal residents were still in town and vying for their pieces of Scottsdale's pie.

I'm calling on the professional investors from Scottsdale, Arizona to Alberta, Canada and beyond.  I see unbelievable values every day, and it's killing me not to have anyone to offer them to at present.  Don't make me form an LLC with a few partners and start buying all of this low-hanging fruit myself.  I really don't have the money and can't take on the added responsibility right now, but ...

Shoot me an email, and I'll put you on my watch list for the next investment opportunity that comes down the pike.  I won't fill your inbox with clutter, but you'll need to be ready to rock and roll when I do forward something.  As fortunes are unfortunately being lost in this market, so will they be made.  You in? 

 

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Paul Slaybaugh is Your Scottsdale AZ Real Estate Specialist

Whether Buying, Selling, Investing or simply burning my gas at $4.15 a gallon,

I'm your guy.

  

(480) 220-2337

paul@rayandpaul.com

 

Comments(13)

Robert Machado
HomePointe Property Management, CRMC - Sacramento, CA
CPM MPM - Property Manager and Property Management

Sounds like it is time to buy in Arizona.  My caution is that the market may not be done going down, there are a lot of foreclosures out there.

Jun 28, 2008 05:17 PM
Don Rogers
Keller Williams Realty Chesterfield - O'Fallon, MO
Realtor, Broker, CDPE, GRI, OnullFallon MO & St Charles County MO homes

Paul,

I just recently listed a bank owned property that the last list price was $50,000 higher.  I am thinking that the banks are trying to move these properties off of their books so they can move on.  They also ask on the bpo for a fast sell price in 30 days and this may have something to do with some pricing.

Don R.

Jun 29, 2008 12:39 AM
Paul Slaybaugh
Homesmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ Real Estate

ROBERT - "The market may not be done going down" - or it may already be on the way back up!  We really won't know until we have the benefit of reflection from a future vantage point.  The Phoenix market in general may indeed have a bit more slippage left in it, but the values I have seen recently on some of the better deals are simply too good to pass up.  With 10 people trying to buy the same smoking deal, pretty hard to conceive of these bottom end prices being driven further down.  There is too much demand.  Now, if you take isolated sections of the market, there are pockets I wouldn't touch at any price.  But Scottsdale?  For the occasional price point I haven't seen in 5-6 years in some instances?  I'll roll my prices on such homes all day long, especially if planning to hold for at least a few years.  You have to pick and choose, but the best deals out there will not take the further dip that the prognosticators are assigning to the market at large.  It's just not possible with the fervor that exists to purchase them. 

DON - I agree.  Certain banks are pricing them to move immediately.  Throw in out of area listing agents in many instances, and the result can be a head-shakingly low price.  It is little wonder that many potential sellers I have spoken to recently are spooked to put their homes on the market in this environment when they see a bank slap a $400,000 price tag on the neighbor's old house in a $600,000 neighborhood.  Madness.

Jun 29, 2008 03:03 AM
Adam Waldman
Westcott Group Real Estate Company - Hauppauge, NY
Realtor - Long Island

PAUL - Great post to reach out to investors interested in the area.  Every once in a while, a bank owned home will come on the market and the deal is amazing.  Within days, there are tons of offers.  Sometimes, even the investors are too analytical for their own good, and they wait to see what will happen.  Well, what happens is that they end up wanting to make an offer after 20 others have already been submitted.  The next question that usually follows is "Are there any others like these?"

Jun 29, 2008 03:44 AM
Paul Slaybaugh
Homesmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ Real Estate

ADAM - How true is that?  That is largely why I am appealing to professionals.  The amateur investor will often be turned off or unable to cope with the needed fixup, and takes longer to recognize value.  You can't dilly dally on the viable ones.  They sell far too quickly.  I can find a good solid investment property for the mom & pop investor, but it's going to be of the single or double variety, rather than the home run.  The condition needs to be nearly ready for a tenant (maybe just some carpet and paint), and the competition can't be as fierce. 

So, how many do you want, buddy?

Jun 29, 2008 03:54 AM
Tom Plant
WINEormous.com - Murrieta, CA

Paul - Our market has some pretty "stupid" values right now, too. I've seen a couple in the past few weeks that have made my jaw drop. Guess what? They're selling!

Jun 29, 2008 05:43 AM
Paul Slaybaugh
Homesmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ Real Estate

TOM - Really makes an agent wish he were in position to grab one of those, doesn't it?  Why is it that the best opportunities seem to come along at the most inopportune times?  Oh well.  If a purchase isn't in the cards for me right now, the next best thing is getting a great buy for a client.

Jun 29, 2008 05:46 AM
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

Paul, great lay of the land post for the investor shopper on what deals are in your backyard, and why you are the man to help them. Hope it cranks up lots more business for you in this area.

Jun 29, 2008 06:33 AM
Judy Tuscano
Prudential Verani Realty - Nottingham, NH
NH Real Estate Professional

In our area we are experiencing much of the same conditions but cash does not rule here with bank offers. The banks seem not to care how they will get the money as long as it is the highest return to them. Go figure?

Jun 29, 2008 07:04 AM
Amanda Evans
DFW Living - Fort Worth, TX
Real Estate Broker - Fort Worth Texas

Love your closing line, Paul!

Paul Slaybaugh is Your Scottsdale AZ Real Estate Specialist

Whether Buying, Selling, Investing or simply burning my gas at $4.15 a gallon,

I'm your guy.

  

Jun 29, 2008 09:41 AM
Sharon Paxson
Sharon Paxson, Realtor® EQTY Forbes Global Properties - Newport Beach, CA
Newport Beach Real Estate

Paul - I too have seen some great properties priced to sell, and creating multiple offers.

Jun 29, 2008 09:57 AM
Rob Baldwin
US ECO-GREEN REAL ESTATE INC. - Santa Clarita, CA
REALTOR, Santa Clarita

Paul, I like the end of your tag about burning gas at $4.15 a gallon, I think it is up to $4.59 now.

Jul 01, 2008 06:00 PM
Elena Martinovici
MY HOME GROUP 602-321-1273 - Phoenix, AZ
Associate Broker- Phoenix , Arizona

Paul,

I love your ending message ..... Yes we need to start remind people that gas cost  $ 4.15 now and time for window shopping has ended. 

"Whether Buying, Selling, Investing or simply burning my gas at $4.15 a gallon,

I'm your guy."

Good idea is to have them sign a Buyer Broker and I hope to see more people doing this and have them tell other agents they come into contact with that they are under a buyer broker.  We would not  dream of having a listing without a listing ageement , yet we spend time , gas and branin cells on buyers  without a contract .....

I wanted to write back  regarding the BPO's. I do some of those and did have a few in Scottsdale, I know the area,  I started in Scottsdale back in 2002 and did a lot of open house as a rookie so i learned everything from Troon to McCormick Ranch ;  however that is not the problem .. when you do a BPO sometimes the vendor that is the( 3rd party to the transaction  and gets the orders from the bank) has certain rules and they want to see REO's sold  and active as comps.  I had to go back and change computations and bring the values down  and spend more time to find something that  I did not think was 100% appropriate. Sometimes you have to do a "drive by" BPO and so  you don't know if the property is in good shape or not inside or it it has 100K work of upgrades.  They pay very low ; from 50 for a drive by to 75 for an inside if completed in less that 48 hours.  So banks stand to loose thousands of $$$$ but pay 50 to get a BPO.  I recently got into an argument  with one of the reps about a property in Ahwatukee foothills because there were no REO's as comps for this type of home within 2 miles around; this was custom built , with a large lot.  Worth close to 900 K +  and they wanted me to bring it closer to the 600 K tract homes where there are REO's .  So I had an issue with that and wrote them a "nice letter" about the fact that I will not de value the market in the neighborhood knowingly . I told them to suggest the bank  to do an inside BPO and hire an agent that will market this house properly  not just stick it on the MLS at 400 K less than what is worth.   I actually got involved with the BPO's because I was getting upset with the values that were projecting in my neighborhood and wanted to make a difference.  

I can say that I have always done a fair BPO and on the higher side. I have recenly noticed one of my bpo's went on the market for 5K less that  I suggested as the lowest possible value  so go figgure !!!!

Jul 08, 2008 10:28 AM