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Solar Windows - Are they Worth the Cost?

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Real Estate Agent with Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 SA5376460000

Today's ActiveRain zoom meeting inspired me to do research about solar windows.  I've heard of solar windows before and they are not a "hot off the press" new technology, but they aren't widely used. 

 

Anytime, I learn about a new technology, it's my "devil's advocate" brain that asks,  "Are solar windows worth the cost of installment?"  Also,  "Do they produce enough energy to be worth the cost?  Hefty questions given this relatively new technology. 

As always, the first part of this self driven homework assignment is to do research on this type of product.  I want to learn:

  • How do they work? 
  • How much energy do they produce?

Solar windows are simple glass with a number of components within the glass that allow light to pass through but also to produce energy from the sun rays that hit the windows.   The components within the window allow the "photovoltaic cells and semiconductor technology inside the the panels to separate the electrons from the proton atoms."  They are sheets of glass with photovoltaic properties.  Yeah, we all knew,  that?!  

 

Solar windows are clear glass, just like any other window and sometimes tinted.  But solar windows contain properties within the glass that deliver energy in the frame where a collector turns them into energy.   Invisible rays that are ultraviolet and infrared waves of light pass through the glass.  Those waves of light are converted into electricity. Window film can have those same properties. 

 

As with all inventions, things improve.  Currently, solar windows produce about 5% of energy, MUCH LESS energy than the solar panels on your roof (20%.)   Realize that solar production depends on your weather and the number of sunny days.  So the same factors exist with solar panels as they do with solar windows.  Until the new technology hits the market that allows solar energy to be produced on cloudy days, there will be a disadvantage to living in cloudy states using either technology.

 

And solar windows cost quite a bit more than standard windows.  Hopefully, solar windows will have as much or more of a tax credit and incentive than just window replacement in the near future.  Until then, replacing windows is listed as one of the items eligible for the Inflation Reduction Act.  The quote in today's zoom call was $85,000 for windows for a 2000 sq ft home, if memory serves correctly.  That's quite a bit more than a traditional set of windows.  I searched for the "cost of solar windows" but nothing surfaced, so this question can't be answered, YET!

 

The return on investment for replacing windows is typically 17-20 years to recoup your investment.  Solar windows have a much higher rate of return. 

 

 

And solar windows won't replace roof top solar as they don't produce enough energy, YET!  But they are a great addition as costs drop.

 

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Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Make informed decisions is what we help others with every day in real estate Lew Corcoran , so this is just another exercise!  Thank you for your comments!  

Sep 04, 2024 05:23 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

I'm here for you Brian England .  This is something that might be good for some and it's a really cool technology.  Makes me think that it might be better suited for commercial buildings with LOTS of windows versus a single family home. 

Sep 04, 2024 05:24 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Interesting thought Jeffrey DiMuria 321.223.6253 Waves Realty .  Hurrican force winds with flying debris...... hmmmmm.  Thanks for that one! 

Sep 04, 2024 05:24 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Nina Hollander, Broker, the ROI for regular windows is 17-20 years.  The ROI for solar windows is much longer.  The homes that John mentioned are about 2000 - 3000 sq ft (I think) and those windows cost $85,000 versus regular windows costing less than $30,000.   If I'm wrong on the square footage, this basic example still proves my point.  The ROI for residential is too long, but maybe this is better suited for commercial buildings with LOTS of glass?   Solar windows only produce 5% of solar for each window versus 20% for solar panels on your roof. 

Sep 04, 2024 05:27 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Great points Dorte Engel .  And you've got the accurate lingo as well - fenestration!  Here in AZ we prefer south facing solar panels, with East and West coming in 2nd and 3rd.  Our long summer days are still ongoing so we'll still have solar heat gain as well.  Since you're in Maryland, you may already know this but you are #2 (to Arizona #1) in Energy Star homes and you have A LOT GOING ON in sustainability!  Kudos! 

Sep 04, 2024 05:29 PM
Dorte Engel

Wow! I had no idea. Some European countries & Texas, I believe, charge spot pricing for energy, depending on demand and supply to residential customers. This would make east & west facing solar panel generation more valuable for morning and evening demand. Most people are not home during the day, although you could put in power walls or top up your EV during peak production, effectively creating permanent nighttime backup power, if needed.

Sep 04, 2024 06:03 PM
Adam Feinberg
Elegran - Manhattan, NY
NYC Condo, Co-op, and Townhouse Advisor

A lot depends on your market. About 9 years ago I replaced my bedroom window and living room sliding glass door - both double paned, double laminated for sound deadening in NYC for about $6k or each- nearly $12k for the 2. I imagine it would have been far more for solar windows back then- but I never inquired. I was planning on living here long term- so I didn't consider resale, only my own person use.

Sep 07, 2024 01:36 PM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Sep 07, 2024 06:48 PM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Oswego, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Good morning Jan. Sounds like the ROI is a bit long for the benefit derived. That said, was unaware of solar windows until you post. Thanks for the introduction. Enjoy your day.

Sep 08, 2024 05:55 AM
Leanne Smith
Dirt Road Real Estate - Golden Valley, AZ
The Grit and Gratitude Agent

Good information.  Solar screens help to reduce heat when coupled with curtains also help to keep the hot rays of summer from entering the room.  Another proactive action is roof overhangs which help as well.

Sep 09, 2024 07:42 AM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Adam Feinberg , I can appreciate spending that much to eliminate street noise!  These types of windows were in early production back then, so may not have been available in your market anyway.  Today, the cost would be lower, but they are still a new technology so more expensive as they aren't mainstream yet.  On the zoom call 2 weeks ago, the cost was $85,000 for solar windows versus maybe $20,000 for dual pane windows.  

Sep 09, 2024 11:09 AM
Adam Feinberg

Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ I am a price sensitive consumer- and even if I had wanted to explore solar windows (I remember hearing about it back then) - some of my electrical costs are covered by nature of being in an apartment building- covered by my monthly common charges (sort of similiar to an HOA), I am not sure if I would have justified the additional expense especially with the low efficiencies of the solar tech at that time. The technology has improved- and in the land of $10m+ apartments and the rise of Platinum LEED rated buildings, Passive houses and Local Law 97 (green building emissions standards required as of Jan 1 this year)  - I am still not seeing solar windows being offered.

Sep 09, 2024 12:22 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ

Understand completely Adam Feinberg .  Most likely, you also have passive solar in an apartment building. Orientation of the building and overhangs can play a big role in solar heat gain both good and bad.  Multi-family buildings have better options than single family.  Solar windows are still a newish technology so I'm not surprised you don't see it being offered, much less the cost!

Sep 09, 2024 02:12 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Thank you for the feature Kathy Streib !  

Sep 09, 2024 11:09 AM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Yes, LONG ROI but as they become more mainstream that will drop.  I'd anticipate this more mainstream in commercial buildings than residentail for the cost/benefit alone.  More windows on commercial buildings would help each building to raise the return. 

Sep 09, 2024 11:10 AM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

I think you mean sun screens Leanne Smith .  Yes sun screens are very benefiicial and cost effective.  I have sun screens on my office windows with 80% blockage. I love removing them in the winter and washing my windows for a brighter office space and allowing the heat gain in during cooler Arizona days.  Thank you for commenting!

Sep 09, 2024 11:12 AM
Leanne Smith

Yes I did, sun not solar. thank you for that correction.

Sep 09, 2024 12:23 PM
Nick Vandekar, 610-203-4543
Realty ONE Group Advocates 484-237-2055 - Downingtown, PA
Selling the Main Line & Chester County

I had not heard of this, but did read about a company in Europe that is producing small very low noise wind fans for residential use in homes. They looked very interesting as they can pick up wind from any direction and utilize it. Even cloudy places can use wind energy.

Sep 09, 2024 12:02 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Yes, there are great wind type products.  In the Phoenix area, they aren't a good option as we don't get the amount of wind that they do in northern.  So,  that type of product is almost as specific as solar.  New film is currently underway to produce solar energy even on cloudy days.  THAT I want to see!  Thanks for commenting Nick Vandekar, 610-203-4543 !

Sep 09, 2024 02:09 PM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

It is going to be interesting to watch the advance of effective and cost saving solar products.

Sep 11, 2024 11:38 AM

Yes it is interesting.  PV solar panels have dropped in cost by 50% over the last 10 years and increased efficiency. We've seen solar roof tiles, which cost about 5x the cost of a traditional roof replacement.  That will change as well!  Thank you for commenting Roy Kelley !

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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

This is the first time I have heard of "solar windows". Sounds very interesting but not a good enough ROI at this point. If we had our old windows still, in this 1976 house, maybe the new technology would make sense. But we upgraded our windows to dual pane years ago. And has already be mentioned, they have a lifetime warranty. 

Sep 14, 2024 06:04 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

I so appreciate your opinion and feedback John Juarez !  I felt the same way.  These may be more inline with commercial buildings.  I have another follow-up post I'll be doing soon!  Thank you!

Sep 16, 2024 10:46 AM
Ricardo Mello
Manhattan Miami Real Estate - Manhattan, NY
Manhattan & Miami Real Estate Agent

Great post!

Sep 28, 2024 03:03 PM