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Buyer Broker Compensation under the new NAR rules - Can We Talk?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Metro Life Homes BRE #01708344 / RS-78439

Buyer Broker Compensation under the new NAR rules - Can We Talk?

One of the biggest changes we as licensed real estate professionals have had to pivot quickly with is the change to cooperating buyer broker compensation - most notably the solicitation of such.

I have attended just about every webinar possible in my Realtor board areas to make sure I have the information straight.

And as it turns out, it's perhaps just a little crooked on the edges.  So to speak.

The specific stipulation, from my attendance of these webinars with real estate attorneys in attendance for affirmation, is that compensation for a buyer's broker (and tenant for that matter), is now a negotiation point between SELLER TO BUYER, or SELLER TO BUYER'S BROKER, but cannot be set between LISTING BROKER to SELLING BROKER.

Oh, the drama [cue eery organ music here].

The biggest element of this change is that there can no longer be an amount solicited on the multiple listing services, or in any publication for that matter, that stipulates BROKER TO BROKER compensation.  That is why the data field in all MLS platform has either been removed or disabled for data entry.

Now comes the fun part [cue confetti poppers here]

So I've had some lovely conversations, mostly via text but some telephone, with other agents/brokers on some of my listings.  During those conversations, I've been flat out asked "What is the commission on this?"

My first instinct was to ask them to confirm the address of the rock they are living under.  But kindness begets kindness, so instead I state that due to the recent NAR changes, I can no longer discuss broker-to-broker compensation, but that the seller is open to concessions toward such, depending on the offer.  To me, that is the best answer I can provide given the logistics of both compliance with the NAR rules and the fiduciary I have to my seller.

My second instinct is to ask them if they have a buyer-broker agreement signed.  Honestly, I ask this out of genuine concern that they do not end up spinning their wheels and chasing the buyer all over town showing properties without getting paid since buyer broker commissions are now negotiable and not pre-stipulated on the MLS.

It was surprising to me that about 50% of the time, I get push-back on that response or what seems to be an invitation to debate the subject matter.  Some of the responses I've gotten include "You can't put it on the MLS or talk about it on caravan, but it's OK just one-on-one" or "Oh, that's only for sales.  Leases are OK to state the commission"

I then in my mind start picturing what it would be like to wear a space suit and a bubble helmet because apparently I am from Mars.

Rather than get into a heated debate, the focus is to get the listing sold or leased, so I just focus on getting the showing appointment set up and re-affirm that the seller is open to concessions.  And leave it at the river.

Here is the rationale behind my thoughts, as well as the apparent growing ulcer in my abdomen:

1.  You're attempting to tell me that you acknowledge that there can no longer be any solicitation of broker-to-broker compensation on the MLS or on caravan, but that it's OK "in secret"?  Really?  Seriously?  How much sense does that make and which continuing education courses have you taken given it must of been missing the code of ethics section?

2. How can I POSSIBLY tell you what the commission is when it is clearly negotiable on the part of the seller at this point and me not knowing what your offer will look like and what the disposition the seller will have towards it?  What if your buyer asks for every single credit in the world AND Uncle Gooch's rocking chair that he left the seller on his death bed?  (That he hand carved and walked 20 miles in the snow to get just the right color paint that matches my seller's eyes).  What do you think my seller's disposition will be towards additional concession towards paying the buyer's agent?

This is why the buyer-broker agreement has taken on a whole new life in our industry.  Y'all betta git one, cuz there are no longer any guarantees on the buyer side (upcoming post on that subject matter, so keep your eye on my blog - oooh, wasn't that a great segway?)

So, in my ever-constant quest for the truth in a world full of mis-information (don't go there), I decided to contact the legal department of our state's realtor association.  Out of that consultation came this:  Confirmed - you cannot put into public any solicitation of compensation, broker-to-broker.  However, seemingly with your seller's permission, you can state whether or not your seller is willing to make a concession towards the buyer's broker commission.  And with their permission, you can state whether or not they would be WILLING to consider an amount up to a certain point.

NOW, with that being said, I am going to stick to my guns and continue stating (when asked), that my seller is willing to consider concessions towards the buyer's broker compensation, depending on the offer. Unless my seller has flat-out stated they will not (which I haven't come across yet).

Why will I continue to take that approach? 

1. Because as an experienced broker, I have seen too many times a transaction ending up in mediation because the buyer's broker makes a claim that the listing broker stated what the commission will be and for whatever reason there is a mis-understanding between the two parties.  So I will stay clear of any kind of confirmation of compensation before a contract is signed.

2. I have no idea what your offer will look like, nor what my seller's disposition will be towards it until they are presented with the offer.  And even then, as the transaction progresses through inspections, appraisal, possible lender requirements, etc. what additional concessions will be requested.

Don't like my decision?  Oh, grow up!

 

 

Ralph Gorgoglione - Broker / Realtor

Metro Life Homes  / BRE #02009317
(310) 497-9407 / (800) 591-6121 

Web:  metrolifehomes.net 

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Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

Don’t like my decision? Grow up. We definitely need more of that kind of advice covering everything in life. I enjoyed your post. Have a great week. 

Nov 09, 2024 04:05 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning Ralph,

So much drama and could see more changes so keep in fluid...honest with communication open!

Nov 09, 2024 04:14 AM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Oswego, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Good morning Ralph. So happy to be retired and not have to deal with this crap. How many attorneys got wealthy litigating this issue? For their protection agents representing buyers should have an executed agreement. the confusion will harm many sellers and buyers until the dust settles. Enjoy your day.

Nov 09, 2024 04:16 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hello Ralph - although no longer active, I can relate to "oh, grow up".  Of course, "cue the organ music" resonates with me as well.  

Carol Williams - an early SCS Second Chance Saturday post selection.  

Nov 09, 2024 04:36 AM
Brian England
Ambrose Realty Management LLC - Gilbert, AZ
MBA, GRI, REALTOR® Real Estate in East Valley AZ

This is a very good write-up!  I have yet to deal with it myself, since I have been working on a development instead of working with buyers and sellers, haha.  There might come a time where I will need to brush up on everything, so posts like this help!

Nov 09, 2024 04:39 AM
Hannah Williams
HomeStarr Realty - Philadelphia, PA
Expertise NE Philadelphia & Bucks 215-820-3376

Well Ralph Gorgoglione I like to be straight up and cut through the BS  so before they start talking if my seller has agreed  I say so . I don't like to play games . Have a great weekend 

Nov 09, 2024 11:04 AM
Ralph Gorgoglione

Do you have it in writing that your seller has agreed to pay the buyer's broker a pre-determined amount?  We do not have any section in the California listing agreement for pre-determined compensation for the buyer's broker any longer.  In fact, the form has been revised as of 7/24 to make sure the seller is aware that ALL commissions are negotiable on the buyer side.  And since NAR is a national entity, I don't see how a revised listing agreement in your area can possibly have a section for that.  If so, please share.  Also, I don't see how in a new world of making buyer broker compensation completely negotiable to the seller, offering right up front a pre-determined amount is in your seller's best interest.  Once you've made a commitment right up front before an offer is even presented to your seller isn't prudent in my opinion.  What it seems you label as "BS", is actually leverage and flexibility your seller has that is no longer there when you attempt to make a concession before even seeing an offer.

Nov 09, 2024 01:41 PM
Lew Corcoran
Better Living Real Estate, LLC - East Bridgewater, MA
Expert guidance. Exceptional results.

Thank you, Ralph Gorgoglione, for your candid insights on the recent changes in buyer broker compensation. I appreciate your thoughtful approach to navigating these new rules, and your perspective sheds light on an important conversation in our industry.

Nov 09, 2024 12:08 PM
Jennifer Fivelsdal
JFIVE Home Realty LLC | 845-758-6842|162 Deer Run Rd Red Hook NY 12571 - Red Hook, NY
Mid Hudson Valley real estate connection

Ralph,  I like the approach you have taken when a Buyer's  Agent brings up the compensation question prior to an offer.

Nov 09, 2024 06:03 PM
Ralph Gorgoglione

Thank you.  Honestly, anyone who knows me can say I am genuinely not a "know it all" kind of person. (that's a lot of work! LOL)  We are all constantly learning until the day we die.  What I was genuinely trying to do with this post, using a sense of humor as I always do, is to help my peers not put themselves into situations where they would be compromising their ethics.

Nov 09, 2024 09:44 PM