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Thankful for College Guidance 

Thankful Thoughts: ActiveRain's November 2024 Gratitude Challenge

When I was a senior at Cradock High School in Portsmouth, Virginia, I wanted to go to college but had no family advice since my parents and close relatives had not attended college. I was fortunate to have assistance by the Guidance Director, LeRoy Rose. He had attended the University of Virginia and suggested that I should apply for admission. 

I was accepted as a student in the College of Arts and Sciences. My father drove me to Charlottesville and dropped me off in front of the dormitory that would be my new residence. In those days, the students were all young men except of the School of Education and the Nursing School. Everybody wore a coat and tie everywhere we went. 

My first roommate was a graduate of a prep school and happened to be a heavy drinker. At that stage of my young life, I had never used alcohol and had no experience with drunks. Fortunately, things were sorted out and I got a new roommate. Students at UVA did a lot of walking. We walked to classes, to dining locations, to church and would walk into town to shop or attend a movie. 

I was impressed with the honor system. We did not have worry about our possessions and the honor pledge was included with every test. All of my professors were men and there were no girls in the classes. The professors were called Mister even though most of them had doctorate degrees. The class that gave me the most trouble was French. The Latin that I had taken in high school did not help me with modern language studies.

I joined the Camera Club and became a member of the rifle team. At that time, the rifle team was a junior varsity sport. We used the navy rifle range and had army staff members for support and to drive us to other schools for rifle matches. I recall learning more about the life at the Naval Academy when we went there to compete with their team. I had become a Certified Rifle and Pistol Instructor and that training was very helpful. 

By the end of my first year, I had decided to attend the McIntire School of Commerce and to major in Finance. I learned that by attending summer school for two years, I could graduate in three years rather than four. I became a life member of Alpha Kappa Psi, a business fraternity but never joined one of the many social fraternities. I received a Bachelor of Science in Commerce degree with a Finance major.

One of the special memories during my undergraduate years was an opportunity to have the room at 21 West Lawn, part of the original buildings designed by Thomas Jefferson, the founder of UVA. The office of the President was across the lawn from my room and one day. Colgate W. Darden, Jr., a former governor and the President at the University stopped by one day and told me that he had the same room when he was a student.

I applied for admission to the School of Law at UVA and was accepted and that established my schedule for the next three years. My father had promised to purchase a new a car for me if I finished college and I received a new Plymouth station wagon to use during my law school years.

Law school was a challenging experience. The nationally known professors were outstanding and we got to know our classmates since all of us were taking the required classes. I shared a mailbox with Ted Kennedy. I was on the Virginia Law Weekly staff and served as treasurer of that group and was fortunate to have an office in the library. I recall a moment when my tax professior, Mortimer Caplin, dropped by to ask me to change his mailing address. I asked for the new address, and his answer was Washington, DC. He had been appointed as the U.S. Commisioner of Internal Revenue.

During the fall of my third year of law school, I passed the examination to become a Virginia Real Estate Broker and passed the examinations for multiple insurance lines and security licenses. Since I had a car, I was the driver for a group of us to go to Richmond for the bar exam. I was lucky to be the only one in that group that passed the exam on the first try. 

I opened my first real estate and insurance office during the summer after finishing law school. 

Please forgive me for any typos you might find in this post. I call them 'senior moments'.

 

Dahlia, Longwood Gardens, Kennett Square, Pennsylvania USA IMG 5685
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Photograph by Roy Kelley
Roy and Dolores Kelley Photographs

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Roy Kelley, Retired, Former Associate Broker, RE/MAX Realty Group

Gaithersburg, Maryland  

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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Author, Golfer, Retired Broker, Wenatchee, WA

Hi Roy,
How interesting. You had a very diverse college experience with a lot of history attached.  Did you ever incorporate your law degree with your real estate and insurance businesses?

Nov 27, 2024 09:22 AM
Roy Kelley

Carol Williams 

I have never practiced law even though I continued to be an active member of the bar during my real estate career. The knowledge and the status was definitely helpful.

Nov 27, 2024 09:28 AM
Carol Williams

Roy Kelley 
Yes, I bet the knowledge was very useful in your real estate and insurance businesses.

Nov 27, 2024 10:43 AM
Joe Mojica
Laer Realty Partners Bowen - Port St Lucie, FL
Your Home Adds Value to You

Richard,

Your story resonated with me.  Except for the important people you met and the place where you lived, are stories are similar.  I decided to become a Guidance Counselor.  However, when I went to my Guidance Counselor (Mrs. Lewis), she discouraged me from going to college.  She looked right into my eyes and told me that I should consider going to a vocational school.  Although in middle school, I was an A and B student, I believe she felt that because I was a bused in student (from the other  side of the tracks), her mindset was that I was not college material.

 

In my family, I was the very first one to go to college. I applied for scholarships and grants. I was fortunate to fund my college on both. I had no guidance from my parents because they didn't even have a high school diploma. With perseverance and God watching me from above, like you, I was able to graduate in three years. I began by teaching elementary school. I then was a high school Guidance Counselor. I then went to work in administration at the university level.  It was during my university role that I took advantage of taking a free real estate course (offered to employees). Right before I separated my employment with the university, I started my real estate business part-time. While I was working full time, selling real estate part-time, I also worked on getting my broker's license.  Although I never opened an office, I continued selling real estate. I have since sold millions of dollars' worth of real estate, built wonderful client relationships, helped many families reach their dream of becoming homeowners, and have established friendships with local realtors.

Willingness, perseverance, mindset, and determination can navigate you into a wonderful and successful journey. Being able to share our stories is the icing on the take.  Loved your story. Congratulation on all your awesome accomplishments!  Havea delightful and special Thanksgiving.

By the way, another great photo!

Nov 27, 2024 09:31 AM
Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Wow Roy and thank you for sharing this blog with us about your college years.  Was that these Ted Kennedy.  Glad you past the bar on the time around, so did not wife.

 

Nov 27, 2024 10:07 AM
Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Author, Golfer, Retired Broker, Wenatchee, WA

Hi Roy,
I created a poem for you from your post. I don't have your email address, so I'll just put it here:

The Road To Charlottesville (UVA) -
For Roy Kelley
By: Carol Williams & ChatGPT

When I was a senior, dreams in my eyes,
At Cradock High, beneath Virginia skies,
No family footsteps to show me the way,
But LeRoy Rose had kind words to say.
"Apply to Virginia, see where it leads,"
A chance for a future, to plant the seeds.


On the road to Charlottesville, where the past meets the new,
In a dorm on the Lawn, where Jefferson’s dreams grew.
With honor and lessons, I found my own way,
During my time in Charlottesville, I grew every day.


My father dropped me off, suitcase in hand,
In a world of young men with dreams so grand.
A coat and tie, the daily disguise,
I walked the grounds with wonder in my eyes.
Through French and finance, I faced my fears,
Finding my path in those formative years.


During my time at Charlottesville, where the past meets the new,
In a dorm on the Lawn, where Jefferson’s dreams grew.
With honor and lessons, I found my own way,
During my time in Charlottesville, I grew every day.


Camera in hand, rifle team pride,
Walking to classes, through life’s countryside.
At 21 West Lawn, I made my mark,
Where echoes of leaders lit up the dark.
From Commerce to Law, I followed my quest,
Through challenges and trials, I gave it my best.


The professors were legends, their lessons ran deep,
Through law books and lectures, I’d lose hours of sleep.
Sharing Ted Kennedy’s mailbox, and Caplin’s advice,
I shaped a career, through fire and ice.
A Plymouth reward, for the promise I kept,
A future was waiting, while the old dreams slept.


During my time in Charlottesville, where the past meets the new,
In a dorm on the Lawn, where Jefferson’s dreams grew.
With honor and lessons, I found my own way,
During my tie in Charlottesville, I grew every day.


Now looking back, with gratitude clear,
For the journey that started so far, yet so near.
From Cradock to Commerce, to Law’s steady climb,
Charlottesville’s echoes still carry through time.

Nov 27, 2024 12:00 PM
Roy Kelley

Carol Williams  

Thank you very much. You are a talented writer!

Nov 27, 2024 12:17 PM
Carol Williams

Thank you, Roy Kelley 
ChatGPT and I make a good team.

Nov 27, 2024 12:44 PM
Hannah Williams
HomeStarr Realty - Philadelphia, PA
Expertise NE Philadelphia & Bucks 215-820-3376

Roy Kelley  I enjoyed reading your history of education.  You were lucky to get rid of the first roommate.  Life does go by so quickly, doesn't it.  

Nov 27, 2024 12:40 PM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good evening Roy,

I really like the entries you have written for this years November challenge! I've learned a lot about you and enjoyed reading about your college days on this post. 

Nov 27, 2024 02:31 PM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Retired Home Stager/Redesign

Roy- I love that you participated in this month's challenge!!!   I have loved learning more about you.  What an accomplished and interesting background you've had!!  I did not have any guidance from my parents regarding going to college. It was assumed in my family that we would go...period. My uncle graduated from Rice and I could have gone there but it did not appeal to me. 

Had I to do it again, I probably would have gone to law school.  BTW when you went to Law School was it your goal to practice law??? I know that you did not but just curious 

Nov 27, 2024 09:19 PM
Roy Kelley

Kathy Streib  

When I began law school, I did not have definite plans. If I could have passed the physical examination, I would have accepted a military commission. They offered first lieutenant status to law school graduates. The Air Force posters offered $500 per month. In those days (1961), you joined or would be drafted.

By the third year, I knew what I wanted to do.

Nov 28, 2024 04:48 AM
Kathy Streib

Roy Kelley our family friend who is an attorney wanted me to go to law school. He even offered me a job in his office while I attended law school. There are times I wish I'd gone that route. Larry entered the AF right after college. It was the first year fo the draft and during VietNam. Since he already knew how to fly, he went that route and became an F-4 pilot. 

Nov 30, 2024 05:16 PM
Brian England
Ambrose Realty Management LLC - Gilbert, AZ
MBA, GRI, REALTOR® Real Estate in East Valley AZ

It sounds like you have received some really good guidance over the years.  Happy Thanksgiving!

Nov 28, 2024 04:16 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hello Roy - I too am thankful for your participation in this month's challenge as it continues to tell me about you in ways that I don't recall.  There is a lot of insight gained through your sharing. 

And Chat-GPT or not, I am impressed with the talents expressed by Carol Williams and others in this community.  Although, it is a social media platform, it is so much more than that.  Far from perfect, I am grateful for what it is introduced to me.  

Nov 28, 2024 04:53 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Retired Home Stager/Redesign

Nov 30, 2024 07:13 PM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Oswego, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Good morning Roy. Interesting career path. Must say, my law practice days were brief as I was involved more in real estate brokerage and asset management. The benefits of law school served as an asset that I never regretted. Enjoy your day.

Dec 01, 2024 04:59 AM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Kathy Streib  

Thank you very much for the feature recognition. It is much appreciated.

Dec 01, 2024 05:53 AM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Real Estate Broker

Loved this story, Roy. Brought back memories of UVA for me as many of the boys who attended UVA would come up for weekends in DC to meet us co-eds. 

Dec 01, 2024 06:01 AM
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

I am very impressed that you lived on the lawn - that is a real accomplishment and you are to be congratulated - even now! 

Dec 01, 2024 06:26 AM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

I loved reading this part of your journey. Excellent that you got the advice you did regarding college. Then you took that and just kept improving on it!

Dec 01, 2024 06:46 AM
Marney Kirk
Cummings & Co. Realtors - Towson, MD
Towson, Maryland Real Estate

Hi Roy! What a great post. You are a true storyteller! I am glad you had guidance to get to and through college and further. Congrats on passing the bar on the first try! 

Dec 01, 2024 07:00 AM
Steffy Hristova
HomeSmart Elite Group Tempe AZ Tel: 602.710.8161 - Tempe, AZ
Tempe AZ Realtor - Your Home Close to Your Work!

Hi Roy, I enjoyed reading your post, which Kathy Streib featured. Happy memories. I like to go to school re-unions, too, because they create a similar feeling, connecting with younger years and smiling. 

Dec 01, 2024 07:50 AM
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

Loved your story, Roy! I'm sure your law degree served you well in real estate. That knowledge is a big part of what we do, even if we can't use it in our business! You had a great guidance counselor and savvy you for following the guidance to a 't' and then some!

Dec 02, 2024 06:38 AM