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And Just Like That...BOOM! Deal Blows Up Due To HOA Insurance Blunder!

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Mike McCann - Broker, Mach1 Realty Farm & Commercial Land Broker-Auctioneer Serving Nebraska

Alright...Happy Friday to All and I hope your day is going well.

This is my PSA for this month.  I hope you are never in this situation.

SO...I am going to save all of you some time when showing Condos or property where the HOA has the Master Insurance on the exterior of the building(s).

MAKE SURE THE HOA MASTER INSURANCE PLAN IS RCV FOR ROOFS!!! 

(Replacement Cost Value)  Find Out Before Writing the Contract or Listing Papers.

We all have done it...Sold a property where a Buyer is buying the home but the HOA is in charge of the exterior and roof insurance.  At least most of us have.

I recommend asking that question almost first rather than after going under contract.  Trust me on this... save yourself two unhappy agents...an unhappy buyer and unhappy seller and an HOA that appears to not give a crap.

Especially if the buyer is getting a mortgage!

I have done it dozens of times over my career....and Never once...as in ZERO - Zilch-NADA....have I had a deal die because the HOA had incorrect insurance.

Remember this nice listing I posted about many months ago?

Mach1 Realty Mike McCann

Yep...A great Condo in a fantastic small filing of 18 Units.

In November the HOA Board voted to accept a new bid on their master insurance policy.  And switched providers to a company called Grinnell which was represented by a different agent and company. 

Someone forgot to tell them to read their governing docs about having Full Coverage on the exterior, including roofs, or else you could not get a conventional loan.

Yep...the HOA is in violation of their own governing docs that are recorded at the courthouse.

Buyers already could not buy with FHA or VA  and now Sellers cannot even sell Conventional.

Here is the answer from my preferred lender who was not involved:

"Short answer:  You are assessing the situation correctly.   Sellers will only be able to sell to cash buyers or buyer that obtain ‘in-house/portfolio’ mortgage loan financing (typically balloon loan product) from a local Bank, assuming the Bank would be ok with ACV policy.  Financing Condo’s on the secondary market is tougher than it’s ever been.     The secondary market requires RCV (replacement cost coverage) insurance policies.   (ACV) Actual Cash value policies are not allowed on the secondary market."     WOW

At this time, the roof is fine...but HOA's new policy only allows for ACV (Actual Cash Value). 

IE: A roof brand new is close to 100% Value...a roof 5 years old loses 5 years worth of value.  This roof is 7 years old and in excellent condition but is not worth full amount of replacement...probably only about half or less (my estimate).

Doesn't seem like a big deal until you realize that Freddie Mac requires all conventional loans to have RCV (Replacement Cost Value)...and the secondary market will not touch the loans that are in violation of Freddie Mac. 

https://guide.freddiemac.com/app/guide/section/4703.2 

I agree with Freddie Mac and confirmed it with my preferred lender today as you saw above.  Thursday was supposed to be closing day right up to the point that the buyers lender ( not my buyer or lender) denied the loan on Wednesday.

SO BOOM!  Deal is dead.  Buyer is out appraisal and inspection money...seller cannot close a property that is in an estate and cannot close the estate by the end of the year.

Back on the market today...and who knows how long it will take to get sold.

And what about the HOA and Insurance agent who I had been talking with many times up until I pointed out their errors?  CRICKETS!  Nothing but silence.

Monday I will let the HOA know that if they cannot correct this and give me a guarantee that they will... I will send a letter of explanation to every owner in the complex explaining their future predicament.

Until Next Time...Have a fantastic weekend and make sure the secondary market will buy the type of loan you (or the other agent) is using for the buyer.   Mike

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Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good evening Mike,

Just went through this this spring wit a condo seller. After we went under contract thee master plain insurance came due and the HOA went for a lesser plan to keep the dues in line! Not a good idea! My seller called an emergency meeting with the home owners to up their dues to pay for the insurance coverage to cover the RC V for the roof! Not a fun experience but a needed one and now we could close with a buyer who was doing a conventional loan!

Dec 13, 2024 06:24 PM
Mike McCann Nebraska Land Broker
Mike McCann - Broker, Mach1 Realty Farm & Commercial Land Broker-Auctioneer Serving Nebraska - Kearney, NE
Farm & Commercial Property For Sale 308-627-3700

I think ours is dead.  I tried to resurrect it but the chances are very, very slim.

The HOA contacted me tonight and they are changing the policy as a result.

But I think it is too late as esarnest money has been returned and buyer said they are moving on.   Glad yours worked out.

Dec 13, 2024 06:32 PM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Hi Mike- I'm sorry this happened. Thank you for sharing this so others, if they aren't already, will be aware of it. 

Dec 13, 2024 07:20 PM
Mel Ahrens, MBA, Kelly Right Real Estate
Kelly Right Real Estate - Hood River, OR
Customized Choices for your Real Estate Needs

Does your buyer client have a small claims action against the HOA?

Dec 13, 2024 11:34 PM
Bill Salvatore - East Valley
Arizona Elite Properties - Chandler, AZ
Realtor - 602-999-0952 / em: golfArizona@cox.net

So sad a HOA blunder can kill a deal. Great presentation. Thanks for sharing, make it a great Saturday and enjoy your weekend!

Bill Salvatore, Realtor- Arizona Elite Properties

Dec 14, 2024 03:03 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hello Mike - sorry to hear about this situation. While I believe there can be many benefits of having a HOA, it does not come without disadvantages.  

Dec 14, 2024 04:38 AM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

Ugh! Thank you for the heads up. It's a shame about the deal, but happy to hear the HOA will resolve the issue going forward.

Dec 14, 2024 04:47 AM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Real Estate Broker

What a bummer, Mike! Good reminder that agents need to get a copy of the master insurance policy before making an offer and also have it reviewed by the lender.

Dec 14, 2024 05:31 AM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Real Estate Broker

Carol Williams hi again, Carol... another suggestion for your Second Chance Saturday post. 

Dec 14, 2024 05:34 AM
Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Hello Mike and Hoa are important to know what they have and not miss reading all the docs from them.  Sorry the deal when dead

 

Dec 14, 2024 09:17 AM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Mike, I have experienced this, but have heard others that have.   Always a shocker.

Dec 14, 2024 10:48 AM
Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate (435) 632-9374 - St. George, UT
The best agent in Southern Utah!

Reading and understanding every line in HOA docs is a must, Mike. I'm sorry it took a promising transaction top fall apart to find out the rest of the story. Either someone talked a big story about saving money on insurance coverage or ignorance regarding necessary requirements was at play, neither is an excuse!

Dec 17, 2024 05:09 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Hi Mike:

So sorry to hear about this situation but thank you for passing along some valuable information and the reminder about the necessity of due diligence regarding HOA documents and especially the master insurance policy.

Jeff 

Dec 17, 2024 10:35 AM
Joe Mojica
Laer Realty Partners Bowen - Port St Lucie, FL
Your Home Adds Value to You

Hello Mike- I read you blog. I'm very sorry you experienced that unfortunate situation. I sell condos and most of the time there are so many issues. I am trying to stay away from them as much as possible.

Dec 17, 2024 03:32 PM
Doug Rogers
RE/MAX Coastal Properties - Destin, FL
Your Real Estate Resource!

Insurance is one of the largest obstacles here on the coast. Hopefully things improve in 2025

Dec 18, 2024 06:58 AM
Mike McCann Nebraska Land Broker
Mike McCann - Broker, Mach1 Realty Farm & Commercial Land Broker-Auctioneer Serving Nebraska - Kearney, NE
Farm & Commercial Property For Sale 308-627-3700

Thank you all for stopping by and either reading or also leaving comments.   I have not yet heard if they have repaired the error at the HOA but the buyer moved on.  And so will each of our lives.  But dang........................

Dec 18, 2024 07:13 AM