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1938 Kalispell Ordinance: Electrical Wiring and Devices

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I found an online directory of Kalispell City ordinances and thought it would be intriguing to see what some of the ordinances of the past were. The last post covered a 1937 ordinance that related to "Inner Fire Limits" . As I was looking at the 1938 ordinances, I saw the Inner Fire Limits were revoked. So whatever the original reason for them was, the rules were eliminated in the following year.

This time, I'm sharing a 1938 ordinance about the regulation and licensing of electric wiring, devices, appliances and materials.

Ordinance #473, effective as of June 15, 1938, was not for public telephone/telegraph companies or central stations, power houses or substations but covered all other electrical work. The code indicated the following.

 

General Wiring Rules

  • All conductors for new work must be 12 B&S gauge or higher
  • All outlet boxes that are concealed must be 18.75 cubic inches or greater and must have fixture studs and approved plaster rings.
  • All conduits, boxes and fittings must have corrosion protective coating made of cadmium, tin, zinc or galvanized.
  • Within 20 feet of any service entrance, the ability to disconnect ungrounded conductors from supply source must be available.
  • Service wires must be #6 or larger, and must be enclosed in a 3/4" conduit.
  • All buildings must have metal conduit. This includes public buildings, apartment houses with 24 or more rooms and commercial buildings of 1,000 or more square feet.
  • Electric ranges may be wired with rigid metal conduit, and the service wire may be fed from the same service conductors as home lighting.
  • Service conductors may not go through roofs or skylights, as this could impede work of firemen.
  • The point of contact for service wires must be approved by power company.
  • Meters must be installed between five and seven feet above ground.
  • In "inner fire limit" district, metal conduit is required in new construction - no BX allowed.
  • All wiring must be inspected by the City Electrician.

 

Permits, Fees and Plans

All electrical work in the city would require an electrical inspection and permit.

The 1938 fees for the permits were:

  • $1 for the first 10 lights, switch or outlets, with additional outlets 5 cents each.
  • Each neon or gas tube system would cost $1, with additional transformers 25 cents each.
  • Floodlights were $1 for the first one and 25 cents for each additional one.
  • Motors of 1 horsepower or less would cost $1, between 1 and 10 horsepower, $1.50 and above that $2.
  • Hooking up a generator was $5.
  • Each range, water heater, oil burner, fireplace heater cost $1. There were discounts for hooking up several appliances at the same time.

To get a permit, electrical plans had to be submitted, and electrical inspector must have ability to enter building for inspections and to direct the work. Upon completion of work, the electrical inspector would inspect the installation with 48 hours except on Sundays and holidays. Re-inspections will be done as needed.

 

Approved Materials

Any electrical materials, devices and appliances must confirm with the Montana statues, Public Service Commission rules and regulations and this ordinance.

 

Licenses

A Grade A electrical license will allow the holder to install electric wires for light, heat, power or other apparatus. The fee was $25 per year and the applicant must produce public liability bond in amount of $1000.

A Grade B electrical license would be issued to a journeyman employed by Grade A Electrician at a cost of $4 per year.

A Grade C electrical license would be issued to an apprentice or helper of Grade A electrician at cost of $2 per year.

 

Penalties

Anyone violating any provisions of the ordinance would be deemed guilty of misdemeanor with a fine of $300 or less, 25 days or less imprisonment or a combination of the two.

 

What are the rules today?

In terms of 1938 general wiring rules, there are many similarities to the rules of today, and changes such as B&S is now AWG aren't really that critical to discuss here. What is different are the fees and the requirements for becoming a licensed electrician.

The fees for obtaining an electrical permit have definitely changed. Where costs ranged from $1 to $5 in 1938, depending on what was being done, they are now significantly higher. Depending on the amps being provided, a permit might run from $200-380, with interior rewiring or building addition permit costs of $120. The cost for commercial, public and multi-family units are based on the valuation of the work to be done. For example, if the valuation is over $50,000, the permit will cost $455 for the first $50K, plus 0.3% of the balance of the construction cost.

As for the licensing to become an electrician, the fees have not significantly risen but the time required to become one may have.

Today, to become a master electrician (most closely equated to Class A above), an applicant needs to show evidence of being an electrical engineer graduate of an accredited college or university. They also need to show they have a minimum of 2,000 hours of legally obtained practical experience. Alternatively, they can also show they have had 8,000 hours of practical experience and 20,000 hours working in the electrical field. There is a fee of $190 for the license and a $50 work permit fee for exam candidates. This seems to be a reasonable fee when comparing to the 1938 fee of $25.

A journeyman needs to pay the same fees as a master electrician, with proof of an approved inside wireman apprenticeship program or completion of union or trade association training program. Alternatively, they could prove they have 8,000 hours of practical experience or that they worked in the electrical maintenance field for 20,000 hours.

Finally, to become an apprentice, everything is the same except only 4,000 hours of practical experience is required.  And just to point out, if you were to work in an office 40 hours a week, it would take two years of work to equal 4,000 hours of experience.


And there you have it, another blast from the past of Kalispell Montana. I wonder what I'll find the next time I peek into the Kalispell Ordinances?

If you have any real estate related needs, feel free to give me a call on 406-270-3667 or email me at kat@thehousekat.com and I would be happy to find the right person to assist you! 

 

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George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Kat Palmiotti I wonder if the people who wrote the electrical code back in 1938 knew how relevant the electrical code would be well into the future?

Feb 25, 2025 01:50 PM
Kat Palmiotti

George Souto - whether they knew or not, it is!

Feb 25, 2025 01:56 PM
Bob "RealMan" Timm
Ward County Notary Services - Minot, ND
Owner of Ward Co Notary Services retired RE Broker

Great photos Kat Palmiotti and believe it or not I actually understood what they were talking about. 😊

Feb 25, 2025 07:01 PM
Kat Palmiotti

Bob "RealMan" Timm - as a DIY'er, I'm not surprised!

Feb 26, 2025 04:34 AM
Aura Alex
Seattle, WA
Retired Real Estate Pro

Hi Kat,

After 22+ years in the real estate circus, I never wanted to look like some wire wizard. I’d fake about wanting to learn it, but my un-tool-ish brain mutinied at anything I couldn’t pronounce without sounding like a toddler trying to say “spaghetti.”😂

Feb 25, 2025 10:31 PM
Kat Palmiotti

Aura Alex - Isn't the brain so interesting? I've often thought being an electrician would be so interesting - all of those charts and rules, and you get to hook things up and carry a tool belt! haha.

Feb 26, 2025 04:33 AM
Barbara Michaluk
Weichert Realtors | Phone Direct 240-506-2434 | 301-681-0550 office - Silver Spring, MD
Leisure World Specialist / Full Service REALTOR

Hi Kat, This is very interesting. It seems that in 1938 there was an awareness of the danger of someone doing electric work and what could happen if not done safely.  It looks like the start of an attempt to create electric codes.

Feb 26, 2025 03:22 AM
Kat Palmiotti

Barbara Michaluk - I was wondering whether they were having fires as people started to hook up electric ranges/ovens. They mentioned that wiring specifically, and electric ovens were becoming more common in the 1930s.

Feb 26, 2025 04:31 AM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Thanks, Kat, for this interesting historical perspective.

I hope all is going well for you this week.

Feb 26, 2025 06:18 AM
Kat Palmiotti

Thank you Roy - I wish the same for you

Feb 26, 2025 08:42 AM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Retired Broker/Owner - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Now this is really cool information on 'wiring'  in MT back in  1938 Kat!  I absolutely must share this post with Gary as he's an electrical engineer and will find this  very interesting!  Thanks!

Feb 26, 2025 12:56 PM
Kat Palmiotti

Anna "Banana" Kruchten - love to know if there's anything that doesn't make sense to Gary!

Feb 26, 2025 01:59 PM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten

Hey Kat he said he thought it was odd that one needed a 4 year degree in electrical engineering to be a Class A electrician/Master Electrician. Not in in our neck of the woods as most of them go to trade schools and then start as an apprentice. Rarely do they have degrees.

Feb 27, 2025 10:32 AM
Patricia Feager
Flower Mound, TX

Kat Palmiotti - I'm going to assume those changes were implemented for safety protection to prevent fires. I truly admire the minds of electricians, but always careful to get a Master Electrician and not just a journeyman if it's a serious electrical issue.

I always admired the length of time it takes to become a Master Electrician and often thought if people in the real estate industry had similar progression to become a Master in the field it would benefit all consumers.   

Mar 01, 2025 02:13 AM
Kat Palmiotti

Patricia Feager - good morning! I have a feeling if real estate agents needed 4,000, 8,000 or 20,000 hours of work before getting licensed, we wouldn't have any real estate professionals! :-)

Mar 01, 2025 04:43 AM
Patricia Feager

Kat Palmiotti - you're right about that! Continuous education is ongoing. 

Mar 01, 2025 04:46 AM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Kat, it is amazing how these rules and regulations have changed over the years.   Can you imagine how long it would take if the City Electrician had to approve all work these days?    

Mar 01, 2025 09:53 AM
Kat Palmiotti

Joan Cox - we would need quite a few City Electricians!

Mar 01, 2025 10:59 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Retired Home Stager/Redesign

Mar 01, 2025 06:27 PM
Kat Palmiotti

Thank you so much for including this post in your weekly series - I appreciate you Kathy Streib !

Mar 02, 2025 04:42 AM
Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

Kat, that was interesting. Some parts are still true today. Other parts have changed here and there. The fees for permits were interesting. Most of our costs in residential wiring permits are considerably less locally than in 1937-38 Montana. How licensing works in our market is a bit different, but VA used the terms Class A, Class B for electricians when I received my first license in the 1970s. Now it's like everywhere else with Master, Journeyman, Apprentice. When I received my WV Master's license through reciprocity, I needed about 10,000 hours in the field to qualify. When I sent in the documentation, I had 85,280 hours. I think that might have been the fastest turn around I've ever had. Thanks for posting this fun blog.

Mar 02, 2025 02:49 PM
Kat Palmiotti

Wow Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV - thank you for your interesting perspective! Very interesting about your costs for residential wiring permits, and wow- 85K hours! That's like 20 years if working 12 hours a day every day of the year! I'm exhausted just thinking about it.

 

And it's great to "see" you this morning!

Mar 03, 2025 04:59 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Hi Kat:

Another interesting read in your Ordinance series. Appropriate training, licensing, and plenty of hands-on experience certainly makes sense for dealing with electrical wiring and devices, especially when you consider the risks and dangers if you don't know what you are doing.

Jeff

Mar 02, 2025 04:58 PM
Kat Palmiotti

So true Jeff Dowler, CRS !

Mar 03, 2025 04:55 AM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Associate Real Estate Broker

Kat Palmiotti   In the early days the precautions were great as so little was known about the ability of electricity. 

They had to be especially careful out there as well, as the poles were so short as shown in your photo.

Mar 02, 2025 05:54 PM
Kat Palmiotti

Ed Silva, 203-206-0754 - I am sure fires were unintentionally started because of electric issues!

Mar 03, 2025 04:55 AM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

I think a lot of people do neglect certain inspections, but this is not a good look. You can never be too careful.. :) Thanks. Kat!!

 

Mar 02, 2025 09:52 PM
Kat Palmiotti

Thank you for your comment Laura Cerrano !

Mar 03, 2025 04:54 AM
Gloria Todor
Premier Property Sales & Rentals - Springfield, PA
& Doug Durren (484) 431-3686 in SE PA

Kat, Sounds like you are having fun with this series. Having all those hours of hands on experience is worth it to save lives.  There are still too many fires that occur in and around Philadelphia due to faulty wiring in older homes. 

Mar 05, 2025 02:23 PM
Kat Palmiotti

I agree, Gloria Todor - there are certain industries that really need the professional to have a lot of experience

Mar 05, 2025 03:02 PM
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

All of those rules and regulations are above my level of knowledge and experience. I leave that stuff to the pros. They need to abide by the rules just as they were required to do in 1938.

Mar 06, 2025 06:18 PM
Kat Palmiotti

True John Juarez . Thanks for stopping by!

Mar 07, 2025 04:45 AM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Good Friday morning, Kat.

Have a great day and an outstanding weekend.

Mar 07, 2025 06:17 AM
Kat Palmiotti

Thank you Roy - you too!

Mar 07, 2025 06:34 AM
Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Hello Kat and looking back to 1938 and seeing what your town was doing and the rules and fees they had.  Always interesting 

Mar 08, 2025 08:06 AM
Kat Palmiotti

Thank you Will Hamm 

Mar 08, 2025 08:27 AM
Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate (435) 632-9374 - St. George, UT
Southern Utah's Preferred Real Estate Agent.

Another reason to be thankful for the pioneers that invented such things and then implemented them, Kat. The cost of installation back in the day to now, is substantial! Trade schools are gaining in popularity over 4 year institutions, am glad to see that happening.

Mar 09, 2025 10:09 AM
Kat Palmiotti

I'm glad to see trade schools are gaining in popularity also, Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can! - they teach such useful skills!

Mar 10, 2025 05:06 AM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

Thank you as well, Kat! This was a good  revisit today. People don’t consider all the minutiae that goes into everything, You know? Sometimes you learn more about the blog the second time you visit

Mar 12, 2025 10:10 PM
Kat Palmiotti

Thank you for the second visit Laura Cerrano !

Mar 13, 2025 04:48 AM
Leanne Smith
Dirt Road Real Estate - Golden Valley, AZ
The Grit and Gratitude Agent

So enjoy your blasts from the past. This is is extremely interesting. Here in Mohave County, things are quite different. I must, when I have some free time, see if I can come up with how it used to be.

Apr 03, 2025 02:11 PM
Kat Palmiotti

Leanne Smith - I'd love to hear how things were!

Apr 03, 2025 03:28 PM