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So you make $2100 a month? Sure, you can afford a $4100 mortgage payment.

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Real Estate Agent with Carolina MaxRealty, Inc.

Earlier this week I stumbled across a story on CNN Money about a New York woman and her family.  (Read the full story) She made $25K a year, but with good credit and a $20K downpayment managed to receive a no-doc loan to purchase a $489K home.  With a $4100 monthly mortgage payment, her real estate agent told her she could refinance her ARM within two years to lower her payment.  Her two adult daughters, who lived with her, paid a combined $3K towards the mortgage while Mom paid the rest.  About a year later when the ARM adjusted the payments increased by $300.  Because the family was already stuggling the increase proved to be too much to handle.

I have several issues with this.  Why was the mother able to buy such a home in the first place?  Since there was a discussion about refinancing early on there were obvious concerns about affordability.  So why was she able to proceed with the transaction?  Did her real estate agent truly work in her best interest? 

The story goes on to say that the lender wouldn't work with her to modify the terms of her loan.  Because of interest and late fees she owes over $130K more than the house is worth.  Therefore a short sale would be difficult.  From the bank's perspective this is just plain ridiculous to me.  They would rather receive nothing every month as the house stands empty than get something from a family that truly wants to stay in the home?  Sounds greedy.

There was a news story somewhere else, and I can't recall the source, that talked about a woman who was late paying her mortgage after having to return to her home in the UK for a family emergency.  When she returned to the US and tried to pay over $8K to catch up the bank refused the payment and began foreclosure preceedings.  Now, the story didn't say how late the lady was, but I got the impression that it wasn't by much - maybe a month. Regardless, would you turn down an $8K check?  Again, sounds greedy.

I'm tired of seeing stories like this day after day.  It saddens my heart to see people lose what they've worked so hard to achieve.  Sometimes the lost is due to poor choices.  Sometimes the lost is due to corporate greed.  But who are we to judge?

What are your thoughts?

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Chuck Carstensen
RE/MAX Results - Elk River, MN
Minnesota/Wisconsin Real Estate Expert

Wow.  Perhaps the agent should have said something.  But I think people need to do some math and consideration on their own too.

Jul 17, 2008 07:40 AM
Leslie Stewart
Oregon Licensed Broker with Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Real Estate Professionals - Stayton, OR
Realtor, ABR, CRS, Oregon Licensed Broker

It is frustrating for all involved.  The best we can do is give them our advice and hope buyers will follow it.  I have never been to a closing yet where the the RE broker put the buyers hand to the paper and made them sign the document.  I have had a few walk out of a closing and it was for the best although very frustrating. 

Jul 17, 2008 10:40 AM
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

I do not mean to sound rude or crass, but where is their common sense? Leave the agent out of this. They knew from the get go that they were in over their head and ARMS are not a good investment idea. I say Shame on the agent for condoning this and I say Shame on the buyer for being so stupid.  This is a classic example why the real estate market is in the shape that it is...

Jul 17, 2008 10:15 PM
Jeff Thornton
Jeff Thornton ABR CRB CRS CSP e-Pro GRI - Lansing, MI
ABR CRB CRS CSP e-Pro GRI

Does the agent have the right to tell another adult what they can afford to do.  I would be offended if somebody else tried to make my decisions.  The agent shouldn't put pressure on a buyer when the buyer doesn't think they can afford a certain payment but the ultimate decision is the buyer.  It is too common for us today to want to blame everybody else for our mistakes.

After sounding insensitive it is hard to feel bad for all of the people in trouble.  A lot have had unexpected changes in their job situation.  Like most REALTORS in my area who are making substantially less money

Jul 17, 2008 10:24 PM
Jeff Thornton
Jeff Thornton ABR CRB CRS CSP e-Pro GRI - Lansing, MI
ABR CRB CRS CSP e-Pro GRI

I meant to say it's hard not to feel bad for all of the people in trouble but I can't figure out how to make the correction

Jul 17, 2008 10:26 PM
Tracy Williams Pender
Carolina MaxRealty, Inc. - Raleigh, NC
MBA, Knightdale & Raleigh, NC Real Estate

Thank you all for your responses.  Jeff, I agree that I would be offended if somebody else tried to make my decisions, but if I were the agent or person who approved this loan I would feel bad knowing that this was almost bound to happen. 

Also, did anyone notice that even after the $20K down she's still $130K upside down?  It makes you wonder if the market has really declined that much in that area or if she really got too emotional in the purchase and grossly overpaid.

Jul 18, 2008 01:46 AM
Jeff Thornton
Jeff Thornton ABR CRB CRS CSP e-Pro GRI - Lansing, MI
ABR CRB CRS CSP e-Pro GRI

Tracy that didn't catch my attention since in my area the average sales price has dropped 33% since "05.  Now that's avg sales price not values.

Jul 18, 2008 10:51 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Tracy: 

I agree with Michael.  How did the buyers justify this purchase.  It's really hard to feel sorry for someone that makes a bad decision.  And as for the banks turning down money, those are the hourly employees that have NO CLUE what they are talking about.  You have to get tough when dealing with banks.  Climb the ranks and find the person who can say yes or no with authority.  The media spins things to make the banks the bad guys.  I'm not pro-bank, but having experience with them, I can tell you, most times, those negative answers are coming from an hourly employee with no clue how to handle the call.  If anything, right now the banks are guilty of having too many morons on the front line that are not properly trained in loss mitigation.

I've helped past clients and referrals make these calls, when other agents who've been consulted won't lift a finger.  Why?  Because the person who helps them save their house might as well be wearing a cape and have a gigantic S on their chest.  You think you might get some referrals from that person you just donated time to?  Short sighted agents can't see the opportunity cause they are too busy looking for a paycheck.

Jul 19, 2008 04:14 AM